Audyssey

dholmes
dholmes Posts: 1,136
edited November 2008 in Electronics
Has anyone turned off there Audyssey on reciever-pre-pro & used the old way with spl meter? Ive done what the instructions said 8 different positions & I dont like the way it sounds,it even has my sub at 28 ft away & thats not correct. thanks
My HT set-up Panasonic front proj, 120 in ws screen, ATI amp,Integra 9.8 pre-pro, 2 Polk rti150, cp 1000, 4 fx 1000, Pioneer blu-ray 2 SVS sub pb 12-ultra 2, & Paragon popcorn popper. ps 3 Coaster leather HT recliners.
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  • billbillw
    billbillw Posts: 7,797
    edited October 2008
    Always go back and manually set the distance, crossover points, and SPL levels after running Audyssey, especially the sub level.

    I encourage you to try this and keep using Audyssey. The equalization that it applies is really where the benefit is.
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  • SlowcarIX
    SlowcarIX Posts: 887
    edited October 2008
    just wondering why you want to turn off Audyssey?

    it does more than level matching...

    http://www.audyssey.com/technology/graphs/graph1.html
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  • WilliamM2
    WilliamM2 Posts: 4,808
    edited October 2008
    According to a thread over at AVS, there is a poster there who works for Audyssey, since Ausyssey takes time domain into consideration, the distances it sets are correct.

    Personally, I never liked what Audyssey did to the sound with my 885, I left it off.
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  • dholmes
    dholmes Posts: 1,136
    edited October 2008
    Thanks
    My HT set-up Panasonic front proj, 120 in ws screen, ATI amp,Integra 9.8 pre-pro, 2 Polk rti150, cp 1000, 4 fx 1000, Pioneer blu-ray 2 SVS sub pb 12-ultra 2, & Paragon popcorn popper. ps 3 Coaster leather HT recliners.
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  • mmadden28
    mmadden28 Posts: 4,283
    edited October 2008
    I upgraded the firmware on my 805 the other day so I had to start from scratch (now I can't find that damn mic), anyway I also have the SMS-1 so I started it first and I swear that with the Audessey set to off its ignoring my crossover settings based on what the SMS is showing me....
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  • kuntasensei
    kuntasensei Posts: 3,263
    edited October 2008
    Audyssey detects acoustic distance... However, if you're getting a huge discrepancy in subwoofer distance, you may have an acoustic issue causing it. For instance, my first run through detected my subwoofer 5+ feet off from physical distance. Moved it three inches away from the wall and on the next run it detected at its actual distance.

    Contrary to what billbillw says, once you fix any acoustic issues in the room, you shouldn't need to change the distance/delays it comes up with (though you can spot-check cross-speaker imaging if you have DVE, since it has between-speaker tones that make setting distance/delay easy). You can set more reasonable crossover points (because some implementations, especially Onkyo detect any speaker that goes below 80Hz as full range), but don't ever set a speaker to a lower crossover than what was detected because Audyssey has only equalized down to that point.

    I could go on and on about the proper method of calibrating with Audyssey, but I'd just be repeating what I wrote for the TX-SR705 FAQ at AVS.

    If you have any specific questions after reading that, let me know.
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  • doggie750
    doggie750 Posts: 1,160
    edited November 2008
    HOW old is this technology? Are all AVR have this feature?....Sorry for my ignorance..
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    2channel:Rti100 (carver driven
    Sub:SVS PB12-Plus/2
    Dedicated AMPs:Adcom GFA535, 2xCarver 1.5t, Carver m1.0t
    Wsrn:Hitachi ultra vision LCD60, 32XBR400
    PowerConditioner: MonsterC HTS5100
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  • billbillw
    billbillw Posts: 7,797
    edited November 2008
    The concept has been around for at least 5 years. The general term is "automatic room setup". Audyssey is a brand name for one version of the technology, kinda like Dolby or Faroudja. No, its not on all receivers. You must get a step or two above the entry level to the this feature. Also, not all manufacturers use Audyssey. Yamaha, HK, and Sony have their own varieties. Denon, Marantz, NAD, and Onkyo use Audyssey.
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  • doggie750
    doggie750 Posts: 1,160
    edited November 2008
    billbillw wrote: »
    The concept has been around for at least 5 years. The general term is "automatic room setup". Audyssey is a brand name for one version of the technology, kinda like Dolby or Faroudja. No, its not on all receivers. You must get a step or two above the entry level to the this feature. Also, not all manufacturers use Audyssey. Yamaha, HK, and Sony have their own varieties. Denon, Marantz, NAD, and Onkyo use Audyssey.

    Your wisdom is greatly appreciated.
    MY assumptions were right! I am still SPL meter loyal:D:cool::D
    Godspeed,
    D0661E

    AVR:Pioneer Elite SC-07
    Surrounds: RTis
    2channel:Rti100 (carver driven
    Sub:SVS PB12-Plus/2
    Dedicated AMPs:Adcom GFA535, 2xCarver 1.5t, Carver m1.0t
    Wsrn:Hitachi ultra vision LCD60, 32XBR400
    PowerConditioner: MonsterC HTS5100
    PS3, Toshiba HD A2, etc: SonySACD/ Panasonic gears DIVX.

    MR3LIGION: Polkaudio; GSXR; E46; Reeftank;
    Odyclub; Xsimulator; Sony; Zune; Canon
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  • tcrossma
    tcrossma Posts: 1,301
    edited November 2008
    doggie750 wrote: »
    Your wisdom is greatly appreciated.
    MY assumptions were right! I am still SPL meter loyal:D:cool::D

    Audyssey and other automatic room setup variations do more than just adjust the SPL of each channel. They adjust size and distance (delay), as well as per-channel equalization. Even with Audyssey it's still useful to use an SPL meter to make fine adjustments and double-check the auto-configuration, especially for speaker size.
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