Blu-ray 7.1 analog out

PSOVLSK
PSOVLSK Posts: 5,381
edited September 2008 in Electronics
Are there any blu-ray players with 7.1 analog out? I'm looking to buy a player, but want to have this feature to take advantage of TrueHD and DTS-HD if it's possible.

Thanks.
Things work out best for those who make the best of the way things work out.-John Wooden
Post edited by PSOVLSK on
· Share on FacebookShare on Twitter

Comments

  • nikolas812
    nikolas812 Posts: 2,915
    edited August 2008
    I've been wanting to know the same thing.

    Seems it might be cheaper to go this route instead of spending big money on a new pre/pro to do the decoding.



    Nick
    · Share on FacebookShare on Twitter
  • sbpolk
    sbpolk Posts: 644
    edited August 2008
    Not only do you need to have a player with analogue outs, you need a player that can decode DTS-HD MA. There aren't too many that meet the bill on both of those, but I think the latest high end Sony, Panasonic, and Denon players will do it... but I think most of those are 5.1 analogue outs.
    "People sleep peaceably in their beds at night only because rough men stand ready to do violence on their behalf." George Orwell
    · Share on FacebookShare on Twitter
  • thuchien
    thuchien Posts: 103
    edited August 2008
    last night I saw samsung BD-P2550 for $500 at bestbuy. They are still in the box but I think they will have 7.1 out put and have HQV Reon video scaling chip.
    Sony 60" XBR2
    PIONEER SC 05
    Samsung BD-UP 5000

    7.1 SETUP
    Infinity P-FR with 12" build in sub
    Infinity P-CC
    4 Infinity P QPS
    Kef sub 4000

    pure av PF60
    3 cobalt speaker cables
    · Share on FacebookShare on Twitter
  • disneyjoe7
    disneyjoe7 Posts: 11,435
    edited August 2008
    Is there a receiver which will take 7.1 in as analog?

    Speakers
    Carver Amazing Fronts
    CS400i Center
    RT800i's Rears
    Sub Paradigm Servo 15

    Electronics
    Conrad Johnson PV-5 pre-amp
    Parasound Halo A23
    Pioneer 84TXSi AVR
    Pioneer 79Avi DVD
    Sony CX400 CD changer
    Panasonic 42-PX60U Plasma
    WMC Win7 32bit HD DVR


    · Share on FacebookShare on Twitter
  • dkg999
    dkg999 Posts: 5,647
    edited August 2008
    You'll probably want to wait for the Panasonic BD-55K, the Sony S-550, or the rumored Oppo player. I think the enhanced (vs the current BD-50k) Panasonic and the Sony are supposed to hit the stores Oct/Nov time frame.
    DKG999
    HT System: LSi9, LSiCx2, LSiFX, LSi7, SVS 20-39 PC+, B&K 507.s2 AVR, B&K Ref 125.2, Tripplite LCR-2400, Cambridge 650BD, Signal Cable PC/SC, BJC IC, Samsung 55" LED

    Music System: Magnepan 1.6QR, SVS SB12+, ARC pre, Parasound HCA1500 vertically bi-amped, Jolida CDP, Pro-Ject RM5.1SE TT, Pro-Ject TubeBox SE phono pre, SBT, PS Audio DLIII DAC
    · Share on FacebookShare on Twitter
  • Ron-P
    Ron-P Posts: 8,520
    edited August 2008
    Buy a 40gig PS3 and a inexpensive receiver that can do all the decoding. My Onkyo 805 and PS3 work great and I get it all and I bet all for less then a stand alone player with pre-outs. Of course, it's just a temporary fix until these pre/pro manufactures get their crap together and prices drop.

    Also, I'd steer clear of Samsung Blu players, I've had nothing but issues with my BD-P1000, I'll never buy another Samsung player again.
    If...
    Ron dislikes a film = go out and buy it.
    Ron loves a film = don't even rent.
    · Share on FacebookShare on Twitter
  • PSOVLSK
    PSOVLSK Posts: 5,381
    edited August 2008
    disneyjoe7 wrote: »
    Is there a receiver which will take 7.1 in as analog?

    Good question. I was assuming mine does, but now that you mention it, I'm probably wrong.
    dkg999 wrote:
    You'll probably want to wait for the Panasonic BD-55K, the Sony S-550, or the rumored Oppo player. I think the enhanced (vs the current BD-50k) Panasonic and the Sony are supposed to hit the stores Oct/Nov time frame.

    Thanks. I have some Best Buy reward certificates that expire 10/18. Could be perfect timing for me.
    Things work out best for those who make the best of the way things work out.-John Wooden
    · Share on FacebookShare on Twitter
  • Ethancf
    Ethancf Posts: 473
    edited August 2008
    disneyjoe7 wrote: »
    Is there a receiver which will take 7.1 in as analog?

    My Parasound Classic 7100 pre/pro does. :D Just waiting for that Sony S550 this fall!
    THE SYSTEM
    Polk Audio LSiM 707 Mains
    Polk LSiM 702 f/x Surrounds
    Polk Audio LSiM 706 C Center
    SVS SB-17 Ultra Subwoofer
    Rotel RSP-1582 Pre/Pro
    Rotel RMB 1585 Amplifier
    Oppo UDP-205 Blu-ray Player
    Samsung PN64D550 64" Plasma
    · Share on FacebookShare on Twitter
  • polkie4life
    polkie4life Posts: 231
    edited August 2008
    I'm in the same boat. I have an amp with 7.1 analog inputs but am not sure i want to go that route.....

    The main reasons for my hesitancy are,
    A. will it make things complicated to use? I have a 7yr old that is able to switch things on and play a dvd at present without problem.

    B. Can i set the player to decode the HiDef codecs through the analog outputs and output normal DD/DTS through the coax without having to change settings each time.

    It'd be the easy option to just buy a receiver with the latest decoding and a PS3....... Then i guess i'd need a dedicated CD player etc etc etc.
    In terms of audio, i truly feel sorry for the visually impaired. How can they know what they like if they cant read google?


    http://www.polkaudio.com/forums/showcase/view.php?userid=86838
    · Share on FacebookShare on Twitter
  • jawhog
    jawhog Posts: 444
    edited August 2008
    I also have been paying close attention to this. I thought the panny 50 was the way to go, but now it seems like bass management is a big issue. My denon 3803 can't apply bass management to the analog ins as far as far as I know. AVS forums says the panny can't do bass management for 2 of the new audio formats (I'm not sure what that means, can you defeat those two?, just run them full spectrum). I can't find anything on the Sony 550's bass management capabilities. I'm about to pull the trigger on the ps3 because I'm sick of waiting for a player. All these years of having a receiver with analogs in, and the players are just too expensive and still seem crippled. I hadn't heard about the panny 55 before, I'll have to read up on that one.

    Now what I'm debating is am I better off just running "core" soundtracks on my Denon 3803, or would it somehow be worth putting down $350 for a onkyo 606. I'm very skeptical about downgrading my receiver for one that can decode all the latest formats, but likely have a more poorly performing amp section.

    I think for now I'm going to go ps3 and denon 3803. Then if they ever get it all together I'll get a standalone player with analog outs to run into my harman avr7300. The 7300 is my big dog that I really want to hold on to and find a way to make it work because the amps in there sounds as good as any of the power amps in the $200 (2ch) to $500 (ch) that I've tried.
    · Share on FacebookShare on Twitter
  • jawhog
    jawhog Posts: 444
    edited August 2008
    Well I've been reading up some more (especially news in last day about bluray price drops at end of Sept/early Oct). Also, turns out the denon avr3803 can do bass management on the ext in analog inputs (from my understanding of the manual).

    I was weighing the possibility of 1) selling the denon, getting the onkyo tx-sr606 and the sony bdp-s350 (which would cost less about $300), or just waiting for the sony bdp-s550 and keeping the 3803 (also about $300 with sonystyle credit card deal). I'm going to go with the latter (will also keep tracking panny's future bd55 pricing). I have to believe that the higher end player and higher end receiver will yield more satisfying results, even if I do have to deal with a bunch more cabling.

    The other benefit that I hope to get is dual sound output from hdmi and analogs. I hate to always turn receiver on for sound (movies/programs that are not sound critical). I think the s550 will be able to output sound through hdmi (for tv) and the analogs with no menu changes.
    · Share on FacebookShare on Twitter
  • jawhog
    jawhog Posts: 444
    edited September 2008
    Panasonic dmp-bd55k just became available on Amazon for $399. That's $100 less than anyone was predicting in the short term. Finally, a standalone that doesn't cost more than the ps3. As soon as I see if Sony responds with pricing on the bdp-s550, I'm in.
    · Share on FacebookShare on Twitter
  • WilliamM2
    WilliamM2 Posts: 4,807
    edited September 2008
    jawhog wrote: »
    Panasonic dmp-bd55k just became available on Amazon for $399. That's $100 less than anyone was predicting in the short term. Finally, a standalone that doesn't cost more than the ps3. As soon as I see if Sony responds with pricing on the bdp-s550, I'm in.


    It's not available yet. The listing states "Not in stock; order now and we'll deliver when available".

    The other vendors at Amazon are stating 3 to 5 weeks.
    · Share on FacebookShare on Twitter
  • TNRabbit
    TNRabbit Posts: 2,168
    edited September 2008
    FYI: Sunfire Theater Grand & Ultimate Receiver units will handle 7.1 via the TOSLINK inputs...
    TNRabbit
    NO Polk Audio Equipment :eek:
    Sunfire TG-IV
    Ashly 1001 Active Crossover
    Rane PEQ-15 Parametric Equalizers x 2
    Sunfire Cinema Grand Signature Seven
    Carver AL-III Speakers
    Klipsch RT-12d Subwoofer
    · Share on FacebookShare on Twitter
  • BIZILL
    BIZILL Posts: 5,432
    edited September 2008
    TNRabbit wrote: »
    FYI: Sunfire Theater Grand & Ultimate Receiver units will handle 7.1 via the TOSLINK inputs...

    really? if so, i've never ever heard of 7.1 EVER going through toslink.

    POLK SDA-SRS 1.2TL -- ADCOM GFA-5802
    PANASONIC PT-AE4000U -- DIY WILSONART DW 135" 2.35:1 SCREEN
     ONKYO TX-SR805
    CENTER: CSI5
    MAINS: RTI8'S
    SURROUNDS: RTI8'S
    7.1 SURROUNDS: RTI6'S
    SUB: SVS PB12-PLUS/2 (12.3 series)
    XBOX 360    WiiPS3/blu-rayTOSHIBA HD-A35 hd dvd

    http://polkarmy.com/forums/index.php
    bobman1235 wrote:
    I have no facts to back that up, but I never let facts get in the way of my arguments.
    · Share on FacebookShare on Twitter
  • TNRabbit
    TNRabbit Posts: 2,168
    edited September 2008
    BIZILL wrote: »
    really? if so, i've never ever heard of 7.1 EVER going through toslink.

    It works for me....I've had no issues. :):confused:
    TNRabbit
    NO Polk Audio Equipment :eek:
    Sunfire TG-IV
    Ashly 1001 Active Crossover
    Rane PEQ-15 Parametric Equalizers x 2
    Sunfire Cinema Grand Signature Seven
    Carver AL-III Speakers
    Klipsch RT-12d Subwoofer
    · Share on FacebookShare on Twitter
  • Parachoute
    Parachoute Posts: 88
    edited September 2008
    I bought the samsung bd-1400 for its 5.1 analog output (and its price) to use with my HK avr8000 that cannot decode the new codec. Because of bass management problem that ruined the lossless audio track, I returned the bd-p1400 and changed it for the 1500. IMO, the audio core with good bass on my receiver is better than lossless track without bass. I don’t want to change my receiver.

    I would not buy a PS3 to watch blu-ray because of its fan noise.
    · Share on FacebookShare on Twitter
  • BIZILL
    BIZILL Posts: 5,432
    edited September 2008
    TNRabbit wrote: »
    It works for me....I've had no issues. :):confused:

    you are not getting trueHD or dtsMA this way. at best, you'd be getting ddplus. toslink cannot handle, well, doesn't handle anything better than that. enter hdmi...

    POLK SDA-SRS 1.2TL -- ADCOM GFA-5802
    PANASONIC PT-AE4000U -- DIY WILSONART DW 135" 2.35:1 SCREEN
     ONKYO TX-SR805
    CENTER: CSI5
    MAINS: RTI8'S
    SURROUNDS: RTI8'S
    7.1 SURROUNDS: RTI6'S
    SUB: SVS PB12-PLUS/2 (12.3 series)
    XBOX 360    WiiPS3/blu-rayTOSHIBA HD-A35 hd dvd

    http://polkarmy.com/forums/index.php
    bobman1235 wrote:
    I have no facts to back that up, but I never let facts get in the way of my arguments.
    · Share on FacebookShare on Twitter
  • PSOVLSK
    PSOVLSK Posts: 5,381
    edited September 2008
    Parachoute wrote: »
    I bought the samsung bd-1400 for its 5.1 analog output (and its price) to use with my HK avr8000 that cannot decode the new codec. Because of bass management problem that ruined the lossless audio track, I returned the bd-p1400 and changed it for the 1500. IMO, the audio core with good bass on my receiver is better than lossless track without bass. I don’t want to change my receiver.

    I picked up a Panasonic BDP-10 here at CP to take advantage of the new codecs, but I've run into the same problem with my H/K. Still glad I bought the Panny though. I think it's a great player.

    I totally agree with the bolded part of your statement...although the lossless is pretty sweet with the AC/DC "No Bull" Blu-ray.
    Things work out best for those who make the best of the way things work out.-John Wooden
    · Share on FacebookShare on Twitter
  • Ron-P
    Ron-P Posts: 8,520
    edited September 2008
    Parachoute wrote: »
    I would not buy a PS3 to watch blu-ray because of its fan noise.

    I sit 7' away from my PS3 and I cannot hear it.
    If...
    Ron dislikes a film = go out and buy it.
    Ron loves a film = don't even rent.
    · Share on FacebookShare on Twitter
  • Parachoute
    Parachoute Posts: 88
    edited September 2008
    I guess the PS3 fan doesn’t make that much noise. I use to watch dvd on my 360 and the fan was really annoying.
    · Share on FacebookShare on Twitter