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carpentercarpenter Posts: 368
edited February 2008 in The Clubhouse
... milking the HD / BR thing some more ...
After being a major contributor to the downfall of HD-DVD ( the format they pledged to back from day one)
by boneheadedly not integrating it on the Xbox 360 for free .. They have to mount Blu-ray on the Xbox ...
Man I'd love being a fly on the wall when they make the call:
- Hey MR. Miyagi, its Joe from MS .. can y'all send us the specs for Blu-Ray?
......


P.S
....... I know MS is still gonna use 100$ bills for TP, over at corporate headquarters ...
"If the global crisis continues, by the end of the year Only two Banks will be operational, the Blood Bank and the Sperm Bank. Then these 2 banks will merge and it will be called 'The Bloody **** Bank'"
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  • BaggedLancerBaggedLancer Posts: 6,419
    edited February 2008
    Big news. Thanks

    Good way for microsoft to recover some losses. Anyone know how many Xbox 360's are in the market place? Should also be interested to see if this would support the new BR profile 2.0.
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  • Kris SiegelKris Siegel Former Web Intern Posts: 311
    edited February 2008
    I don't see how this is a Microsoft failure. Granted, if they would have originally integrated HD-DVD it probably would have saved the format but their interest is in downloadable movies. Shortly after they released the HD-DVD add-on they said they may do a Blu-Ray add-on as well.
    BaggedLancer wrote: »
    Big news. Thanks

    Good way for microsoft to recover some losses. Anyone know how many Xbox 360's are in the market place? Should also be interested to see if this would support the new BR profile 2.0.

    I think it's over 10 million now but I don't know how much more.
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  • DemiurgeDemiurge Posts: 11,873
    edited February 2008
    carpenter wrote: »
    ... milking the HD / BR thing some more ...
    After being a major contributor to the downfall of HD-DVD ( the format they pledged to back from day one)
    by boneheadedly not integrating it on the Xbox 360 for free .. They have to mount Blu-ray on the Xbox ...
    Man I'd love being a fly on the wall when they make the call:
    - Hey MR. Miyagi, its Joe from MS .. can y'all send us the specs for Blu-Ray?
    ......


    P.S
    ....... I know MS is still gonna use 100$ bills for TP, over at corporate headquarters ...


    Do you know how stupid a statement this is? The choice was made to keep the costs of the units down -- they weren't in any position to be giving "free" HD-DVD players away at any time, which shows a complete misunderstanding of how a company operates. Ultimately, the 360 just would have cost you more money if they had done that. They made the choice to keep the costs down in lieu of forcing a new technology on the consumer in order to play games on their console.

    Microsoft won the battle on the gaming side of the equation, selling more than twice the units than Sony. Nintendo didn't get involved at all and has sold about 3 million more units than Microsoft. Sony clearly won the battle for their digital media. As the prices drop on stand alone Blu-Ray players, only time will tell what people are mainly buying the PS3 for. At some point, the PS3 won't be a bargain to get into HD media compared to the stand alone units.

    Buying a $200 HD-DVD player add on as an OPTION was an easy way for many of us to get into the HD disc media that actually wanted it. On the other side, one of the reasons I bought a PS3 as early as I did was for the Blu-Ray player -- knowing I would also have a gaming machine for games I wanted down the line.

    Microsoft's decisions definitely helped to kill the format, but they didn't hurt themselves at all by doing it.
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  • DemiurgeDemiurge Posts: 11,873
    edited February 2008
    Kris Siegel wrote: »

    I think it's over 10 million now but I don't know how much more.

    20.1 Million - Wii
    17.2 Million - XBox 360
    8.2 Million - PS3
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  • mutelightmutelight Posts: 1,054
    edited February 2008
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  • exalted512exalted512 Posts: 10,796
    edited February 2008
    Not entirely relevant, but the ps3 outsold the xbox last month.
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  • jdhdiggsjdhdiggs Posts: 4,471
    edited February 2008
    Probably due to the Blu-Ray victory and virtually every consumer website is listing the PS3 as the best BR player for the money...
    There is no genuine justice in any scheme of feeding and coddling the loafer whose only ponderable energies are devoted wholly to reproduction. Nine-tenths of the rights he bellows for are really privileges and he does nothing to deserve them. We not only acquired a vast population of morons, we have inculcated all morons, old or young, with the doctrine that the decent and industrious people of the country are bound to support them for all time.-Menkin
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  • carpentercarpenter Posts: 368
    edited February 2008
    Yup, apparently PS3 sales tripled after the WB announcements, and PS3 sales is what lifts Sony earnings these days.
    seems like Sony's complete misunderstanding of how a company operates, lead them to win the console war in the long run, even when their sharp understanding competitors had a one year time-to-market advantage.
    "If the global crisis continues, by the end of the year Only two Banks will be operational, the Blood Bank and the Sperm Bank. Then these 2 banks will merge and it will be called 'The Bloody **** Bank'"
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  • shackshack Posts: 11,284
    edited February 2008
    carpenter wrote:
    seems like Sony's complete misunderstanding of how a company operates, lead them to win the console war in the long run, even when their sharp understanding competitors had a one year time-to-market advantage.

    Gee...at $70 Billion + in reveneues for 2007...I'm pretty sure Sony understands what they are doing...VERY WELL. Only Samsung (among rivals) is bigger but they make lots of other stuff besides consumer electronics and media. MS doesn't count either as it is a different amimal and their electronics are only conduits to sell software.
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  • DemiurgeDemiurge Posts: 11,873
    edited February 2008
    carpenter wrote: »
    Yup, apparently PS3 sales tripled after the WB announcements, and PS3 sales is what lifts Sony earnings these days.
    seems like Sony's complete misunderstanding of how a company operates, lead them to win the console war in the long run, even when their sharp understanding competitors had a one year time-to-market advantage.

    It's your misunderstanding, not Sony's. Your statements are also wrong. They haven't won anything in the console battle, but they have kicked **** in the High Def media war. Nintendo has the highest sales followed closely by Microsoft. Sony, while having a great month of sales in January is way behind. Maybe it's because all of the 360 owners have had to buy 2 consoles.

    Don't let the facts get in the way of your opinions or anything, Fanboy.
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  • carpentercarpenter Posts: 368
    edited February 2008
    Thanks for that, I learned something new today.
    "If the global crisis continues, by the end of the year Only two Banks will be operational, the Blood Bank and the Sperm Bank. Then these 2 banks will merge and it will be called 'The Bloody **** Bank'"
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  • jakelmjakelm Posts: 4,123
    edited February 2008
    Sony stills has alot of catching up to do.

    IMO , the 360 is still the "mac daddy" of consoles...
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  • AsSiMiLaTeDAsSiMiLaTeD Posts: 11,717
    edited February 2008
    What does the video posted above have to do with this thread?
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  • jakelmjakelm Posts: 4,123
    edited February 2008
    Polkmaniac wrote: »
    What does the video posted above have to do with this thread?

    Absolutly nothing.
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  • scottvampscottvamp Posts: 3,297
    edited February 2008
    Demiurge
    Wow, still running your Xbox fanboy BS on this forum. Do you even have a job? I guess you work for Mirco$, apparently. Your friends must be real happy with your telling them that Blu-ray and PS3 would be obsolete by XMas 2007. Just can't man up when you have been completly WRONG................ Sad.

    Sorry Polkies, this guy would not stop stalking me on this forum and is a reason i don't come by very often. This guy is a freaking idiot.:mad:

    ScottVamp Out.....................
    PS3 and HD Front Projection, life is good. Too bad Blu-Ray and the PS3 are already obsolete.....:rolleyes:
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  • jdhdiggsjdhdiggs Posts: 4,471
    edited February 2008
    Scott: You seem to be the only fanboy left on these forums. If you feel like a target, maybe it's because you roll around this forum with the equivelent of a neon "Kick Me" sign. You are certainly giving Ron a good run for the biggest whiner on the board...

    Especially your sigs over the past week... Geez man, taken ourselves a LITTLE too seriously?
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  • BIZILLBIZILL Posts: 5,577
    edited February 2008
    jdhdiggs wrote: »
    Scott: You seem to be the only fanboy left on these forums. If you feel like a target, maybe it's because you roll around this forum with the equivelent of a neon "Kick Me" sign. You are certainly giving Ron a good run for the biggest whiner on the board...

    Especially your sigs over the past week... Geez man, taken ourselves a LITTLE too seriously?


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    bobman1235 wrote:
    I have no facts to back that up, but I never let facts get in the way of my arguments.
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  • DemiurgeDemiurge Posts: 11,873
    edited February 2008
    jdhdiggs wrote: »
    Scott: You seem to be the only fanboy left on these forums. If you feel like a target, maybe it's because you roll around this forum with the equivelent of a neon "Kick Me" sign. You are certainly giving Ron a good run for the biggest whiner on the board...

    Especially your sigs over the past week... Geez man, taken ourselves a LITTLE too seriously?

    He really is too dumb to know better...
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  • BIZILLBIZILL Posts: 5,577
    edited February 2008
    damnit dave. that's all you post? in the clubhouse forum i saw that you had replied to this thread and was prepared for a good roasting. something that bordered placing you on the 'ban-wagon'...:p

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    bobman1235 wrote:
    I have no facts to back that up, but I never let facts get in the way of my arguments.
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  • DemiurgeDemiurge Posts: 11,873
    edited February 2008
    BIZILL wrote: »
    damnit dave. that's all you post? in the clubhouse forum i saw that you had replied to this thread and was prepared for a good roasting. something that bordered placing you on the 'ban-wagon'...:p

    bobhd0.jpg

    Sorry to leave you wanting more, Bill :p

    I don't think I have known someone who made more crap up than that guy. St. Cliff Part Deux right there. Plus, why confuse him further by disrupting that game of Pong he's got going on in his skull with that pea sized brain. There honestly isn't much more to say!
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  • BIZILLBIZILL Posts: 5,577
    edited February 2008
    Demiurge wrote: »
    bobhd0.jpg

    Sorry to leave you wanting more, Bill :p

    I don't think I have known someone who made more crap up than that guy. St. Cliff Part Deux right there. Plus, why confuse him further by disrupting that game of Pong he's got going on in his skull with that pea sized brain. There honestly isn't much more to say!

    yeah, and before he says anything about me, YES!.. i'm proud to be your little sidekick that eggs you on! i cannot formulate any retort of my own, so i leave it to you.;)

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    bobman1235 wrote:
    I have no facts to back that up, but I never let facts get in the way of my arguments.
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  • m00npiem00npie Posts: 704
    edited February 2008
    It's funny he calls Demi a fanboy when ScottyV has the Sony brand shoved so far down his throat, his back is bulging.

    scottvamp wrote: »
    ScottVamp Out.....................

    Is this an official Goodbye as Ron so politely did today?
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  • BIZILLBIZILL Posts: 5,577
    edited February 2008
    who is ron? RonP?

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    bobman1235 wrote:
    I have no facts to back that up, but I never let facts get in the way of my arguments.
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  • m00npiem00npie Posts: 704
    edited February 2008
    BIZILL wrote: »
    who is ron? RonP?

    rskaryvan
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  • BIZILLBIZILL Posts: 5,577
    edited February 2008
    'nuff said.

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    bobman1235 wrote:
    I have no facts to back that up, but I never let facts get in the way of my arguments.
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  • jakelmjakelm Posts: 4,123
    edited February 2008
    I'm an Xbox fanboy.
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  • exalted512exalted512 Posts: 10,796
    edited February 2008
    m00npie wrote: »
    rskaryvan

    he left!?!
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  • m00npiem00npie Posts: 704
    edited February 2008
    exalted512 wrote: »
    he left!?!

    yet to be seen, but...

    http://www.polkaudio.com/forums/showpost.php?p=806660&postcount=40
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