Do I need a new receiver for HD DVD audio?

Phasearray
Phasearray Posts: 437
edited November 2007 in Electronics
Something about HD DVD being 24bits/96kHZ. Is this something that most receivers with an optical input can deal with or do I need to start looking for a new one?

Using the Panasonic XR57 right now.
Receiver - Onkyo HT-R340
Front - Pioneer S-HF21
Center -Onkyo SKC-340C
Surround Back - Polk R15 <--Ticket to club polk
Subwoofer - Onkyo SKW-340
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  • Sami
    Sami Posts: 4,634
    edited November 2007
    You need analog inputs or HDMI 1.3 for HD audio.
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  • Phasearray
    Phasearray Posts: 437
    edited November 2007
    Sami wrote: »
    You need analog inputs or HDMI 1.3 for HD audio.

    darn, so the Panasonic XR57 which I think is HDMI 1.0 is scrwed?
    Receiver - Onkyo HT-R340
    Front - Pioneer S-HF21
    Center -Onkyo SKC-340C
    Surround Back - Polk R15 <--Ticket to club polk
    Subwoofer - Onkyo SKW-340
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  • VR3
    VR3 Posts: 29,385
    edited November 2007
    You HT guys crack me up....

    Hehe
    - Not Tom ::::::: Any system can play Diana Krall. Only the best can play Limp Bizkit.
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  • Ferres
    Ferres Posts: 310
    edited November 2007
    I prefer getting 3 stereo pre-amps to plug into the analogs. I like to just go up and dial the volume on which section I want to get louder. :p
    Gear: Rotel RC 1082, Rotel RSP 1068 pre/pro, Rotel RMB1077 amp, Cayin CDT 15a CD player, S301 bluray.

    Speakers: Tannoy DC sensys speakers, Paradigm Servo15 Sub, Velo Spl-1500r

    Conditioner: Isotek :D
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  • billbillw
    billbillw Posts: 7,448
    edited November 2007
    Phase Array, you don't HAVE to get a new receiver. Your's will playback the Dolby Digital or DTS track of the HDDVD. The newer recievers are needed only if you want to decode the newer HD audio formats. If you're currently using a Panasonic XR57, then you are probably not critical enough about the sound to make it worthwhile to get a newer receiver anyway. I'm not dissing, just putting things in perspective. Not everyone is super critical about movie sound.
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  • jakelm
    jakelm Posts: 4,081
    edited November 2007
    An AVR with 7.1 analog in and a HD player with analog out, will do the job...
    Monitor 7b's front
    Monitor 4's surround
    Frankinpolk Center (2 mw6503's with peerless tweeter)
    M10's back surround
    Hafler-200 driving patio Daytons
    Tempest-X 15" DIY sub w/ Rythmik 350A plate amp
    Dayton 12" DVC w/ Rythmik 350a plate amp
    Harman/Kardon AVR-635
    Oppo 981hd
    Denon upconvert DVD player
    Jennings Research (vintage and rare)
    Mit RPTV WS-55513
    Tosh HD-XA1
    B&K AV5000


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  • billbillw
    billbillw Posts: 7,448
    edited November 2007
    jakelm wrote: »
    An AVR with 7.1 analog in and a HD player with analog out, will do the job...

    Or, just use the optical or coax digital output from any HDDVD/BluRay and settle for the Dolby Digital or DTS soundtrack like I mentioned before. IIRC, Some (or maybe all) of the HDDVD players will convert the HD audio tracks into fullrate DTS (1.5Mbs?) and pass it over coax/optical. Supposedly, this sounds really good.
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  • jakelm
    jakelm Posts: 4,081
    edited November 2007
    billbillw wrote: »
    Or, just use the optical or coax digital output from any HDDVD/BluRay and settle for the Dolby Digital or DTS soundtrack like I mentioned before. IIRC, Some (or maybe all) of the HDDVD players will convert the HD audio tracks into fullrate DTS (1.5Mbs?) and pass it over coax/optical. Supposedly, this sounds really good.


    DD+ and TrueHD is down converted to a very high rate (via optical/coax) so the AVR sees it as DTS, but at a much higher rate than standard DTS. It does sound much better. But DD+ and TrueHD is still the shiznit... I'm running mine with analog out to AVR and letting the XA1 do the D/A converting.
    Monitor 7b's front
    Monitor 4's surround
    Frankinpolk Center (2 mw6503's with peerless tweeter)
    M10's back surround
    Hafler-200 driving patio Daytons
    Tempest-X 15" DIY sub w/ Rythmik 350A plate amp
    Dayton 12" DVC w/ Rythmik 350a plate amp
    Harman/Kardon AVR-635
    Oppo 981hd
    Denon upconvert DVD player
    Jennings Research (vintage and rare)
    Mit RPTV WS-55513
    Tosh HD-XA1
    B&K AV5000


    Dont BAN me Bro!!!!:eek:
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  • Phasearray
    Phasearray Posts: 437
    edited November 2007
    billbillw wrote: »
    Phase Array, you don't HAVE to get a new receiver. Your's will playback the Dolby Digital or DTS track of the HDDVD. The newer recievers are needed only if you want to decode the newer HD audio formats. If you're currently using a Panasonic XR57, then you are probably not critical enough about the sound to make it worthwhile to get a newer receiver anyway. I'm not dissing, just putting things in perspective. Not everyone is super critical about movie sound.

    But to get the 8 descreet channels of HD audio, would I need HDMI 1.3?
    Receiver - Onkyo HT-R340
    Front - Pioneer S-HF21
    Center -Onkyo SKC-340C
    Surround Back - Polk R15 <--Ticket to club polk
    Subwoofer - Onkyo SKW-340
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  • jakelm
    jakelm Posts: 4,081
    edited November 2007
    Phasearray wrote: »
    But to get the 8 descreet channels of HD audio, would I need HDMI 1.3?

    No, as I said earlier. A player with analog out and an AVR with analog in, will do the trick. The player will convert the digital to analog for you.
    Monitor 7b's front
    Monitor 4's surround
    Frankinpolk Center (2 mw6503's with peerless tweeter)
    M10's back surround
    Hafler-200 driving patio Daytons
    Tempest-X 15" DIY sub w/ Rythmik 350A plate amp
    Dayton 12" DVC w/ Rythmik 350a plate amp
    Harman/Kardon AVR-635
    Oppo 981hd
    Denon upconvert DVD player
    Jennings Research (vintage and rare)
    Mit RPTV WS-55513
    Tosh HD-XA1
    B&K AV5000


    Dont BAN me Bro!!!!:eek:
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  • billbillw
    billbillw Posts: 7,448
    edited November 2007
    jakelm wrote: »
    No, as I said earlier. A player with analog out and an AVR with analog in, will do the trick. The player will convert the digital to analog for you.
    Phasearray wrote:
    But to get the 8 descreet channels of HD audio, would I need HDMI 1.3?

    Well, from what I can see about your Panasonic digital receiver, it only has 5.1 analog inputs.

    So, your choices are,
    Use the digital coax/optical to decode the DTS from the HDDVD as mentioned above and forget about HD audio;
    Use the analog outputs (only on certain HDDVD Players) to connect 5.1 channels of HD audio and lose out on your rear channels (unless there you can map the rear channels to another set of inputs, check your manual);
    Buy a newer receiver that 7.1 analog inputs (and do as Jakelm suggested);
    or buy one of the newest receivers that has HDMI 1.3 and built in HD audio decoding.
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  • Phasearray
    Phasearray Posts: 437
    edited November 2007
    billbillw wrote: »
    buy one of the newest receivers that has HDMI 1.3 and built in HD audio decoding.

    That sounds like an awesome idea! Thanks!
    Receiver - Onkyo HT-R340
    Front - Pioneer S-HF21
    Center -Onkyo SKC-340C
    Surround Back - Polk R15 <--Ticket to club polk
    Subwoofer - Onkyo SKW-340
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  • vlam
    vlam Posts: 282
    edited November 2007
    That sounds like an awesome idea! Thanks!

    Phasearray: You know my Denon 3808ci is for sale.:D

    In all seriousness, using DTS is fine. I have my Blu-Ray/HD DVD configured. You are welcome to stop by for an audition. I am more impress with the video quality than the sound.
    Main Gear
    Panasonic 50" Plasma, Polk LSi15 (Front), LSiC, LSi7 (Rear), Sherwood Newcastle AVP-9080, AM-9080 bi-amp to LSi15, AM-9080 bi-amp to LSiC and LSi7.
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