Setup help - Surroundbar and Onkyo SR875
daesdaemar
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The Onkyo SR875 has no Large or Small settings. One has to choose full band or a crossover frequency for each speaker. Help please on this.
Also, with these type settings, what is my best option for setting up my subwoofer (Polk PSW404).
Finally, how should the speaker distance be set?
Thanks.
Also, with these type settings, what is my best option for setting up my subwoofer (Polk PSW404).
Finally, how should the speaker distance be set?
Thanks.
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choose full band, that's the same as large on most receivers.
speaker distance should be the distance from the SurroundBar to where you sit and watch movies. in my case 14ft
you should be able to hook up your subwoofer using a pre out on the back of your receiver using an RCA cable.PolkFest 2012, who's going>?
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Have you tried using Audyssey to calibrate yet?
I used it on my 875, and, as long as you make sure to turn off your AC and anything else in the house that might increase ambient noise (particularly for lower frequencies), it does a pretty darn good job of calibrating everything, getting spkr distances right, and improving overall imaging. -
Thanks to both of you... a couple of questions.
First, it never occurred to me to use the Audyssey system with the Surroundbar. What positions did you use to take your readings? Any help in that regard? Also, any other tips for the 875 and the Surroundbar?
If I do have to use the manual settings, what is the difference between plugging the subwoofer into the filtered line in (L or R?) or into the unfiltered (LFE)? -
use the unfiltered LFE connector.. otherwise it may be double filtered at the subwoofer and at the receiver.
i am not familiar with Onkyo receivers.. so someone else will have to speak to that.PolkFest 2012, who's going>?
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For Audyssey -- I can't say how it will handle the surroundbar, as I have a more conventional 7.1 system, but I think it might actually do pretty well. Might as well give it a try. Takes about 10 minutes anyway. If it doesn't work, then no biggie.
In terms of listening positions -- make the 1st position at ear height at your primary listening position, and then go to secondary positions. The more the better. You'll need to use at least 3 positions.
As for your second question -- you're talking about where to plug into the PSW correct (there's only one sub pre-out on the 875)? I don't have a Polk sub. I have SVS's, but I know that, for most subs, plugging it in at either Left or Right will do ya just fine. No need for a splitter. -
So glad to see this thread. I have the same setup - Onkyo SR875 and Polk Surround bar. I'm using an Infinity PS12 sub and a Sony 46XBR2 LCD panel.
I'm still wondering if my setup is the best it could be. I don't really get much surround effect at all. I've bumped the side surround channel settings to +8 and I suppose it's improved somewhat. How does yours sound? We should compare settings. I realize we're not supposed to get a full 360 degree effect, but I've read that 180 isn't too much to expect.
What ohms setting should I use? I've been wondering about that.daesdaemar wrote: »The Onkyo SR875 has no Large or Small settings. One has to choose full band or a crossover frequency for each speaker. Help please on this.
Also, with these type settings, what is my best option for setting up my subwoofer (Polk PSW404).
Finally, how should the speaker distance be set?
Thanks. -
Hi LushMojo.
Couple of things. First, my gear in in shipping transit so I've not set it up yet. I'm gathering information so I can plunge in once it gets here. I do know that the Surroundbar is an 8 ohm speaker, so the setting on the 875 should be the 6 or greater.
How exactly did you set up the Surroundbar with the 875? I may be able to give you some more advice. Once mine is set up I think we can help each other by trial and error if nothing else. -
I set up the speakers in the typical fashion with the sub running on the LFE channel of the 875. I read about wiring the sub into the front channels, but that just seems odd. I mean....what happens to your LFE channel when you use that setup? I'm very happy with the sound of the setup. I just think the surround effect should be stronger based on what I've read. I'm not expecting miracles. I just want to get it tweaked a bit better than it is.
Do you want me to post my config from the Onkyo?daesdaemar wrote: »Hi LushMojo.
Couple of things. First, my gear in in shipping transit so I've not set it up yet. I'm gathering information so I can plunge in once it gets here. I do know that the Surroundbar is an 8 ohm speaker, so the setting on the 875 should be the 6 or greater.
How exactly did you set up the Surroundbar with the 875? I may be able to give you some more advice. Once mine is set up I think we can help each other by trial and error if nothing else. -
I see that the lower -3dB limit for the Surroundbar is 100Hz. In the Onkyo speaker config I can set the fronts, center, surround and surround backs to 40Hz through 200Hz. Or I have the option to set as Full Band. Should I use the latter or should I select a specific frequency?
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Yeah, I'd love to see you post the config from your Onkyo.
It's my unstanding that if you use the subout on the Onkyo to plug into the subwoofer, that you should set the Surroundbar speakers to small. However, since the Onkyo doesn't have a small setting that's where the tinkering comes in. I think it is recommended to set them somewhere between 80 and 120. Polk's whitepaper says set to 100. It also says to set all delays to zero and distance should be the distance from the surroundbar to the listening position.
You "experts" out there chime in anytime...
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FYI everyone: I received my surroundbar today from Crutchfield. The box was torn open and crushed and poorly retaped. I did not open it. I called Crutchfield and told them I was concerned about damage, even non-visible damage. They are sending me a new one and having UPS pick this one back up. Great service Crutchfield!!!
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I'm not real familiar with the SurroundBar but I wouldn't use full-band. Even with large tower speakers it's not recommended to use full-band for various reasons (better use of amp power, less chance of standing waves or cancellation from multiple bass sources, etc..) I use 60hz on my RTi150 fronts (-3db = 26hz) and 80-100hz for the rest.
If the -3db limit on the SB is 100hz then I would set the xover at 120hz-130hz, but not much higher as you don't want your sub reproducing much above 150hz (or lower, 80hz is really ideal...)
Audyssey isn't really good at detecting xover points, due to various room resonances, etc. Many people also find the levels are pretty far off. The main thing it's good for is room EQ. Most people run it, then afterwards set the xovers to something more appropriate, and use a SPL to set all their speakers to 75db - sub maybe to 80-82db, depending on taste, using the internal test tones.- Sony 50"A3000 SXRD; Onkyo TX-SR 805
- Polk RTi150 mains; CSi30 center; FXi3 surrounds, R15 backs
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I'm not real familiar with the SurroundBar but I wouldn't use full-band. Even with large tower speakers it's not recommended to use full-band for various reasons (better use of amp power, less chance of standing waves or cancellation from multiple bass sources, etc..) I use 60hz on my RTi150 fronts (-3db = 26hz) and 80-100hz for the rest.
If the -3db limit on the SB is 100hz then I would set the xover at 120hz-130hz, but not much higher as you don't want your sub reproducing much above 150hz (or lower, 80hz is really ideal...)
Audyssey isn't really good at detecting xover points, due to various room resonances, etc. Many people also find the levels are pretty far off. The main thing it's good for is room EQ. Most people run it, then afterwards set the xovers to something more appropriate, and use a SPL to set all their speakers to 75db - sub maybe to 80-82db, depending on taste, using the internal test tones.
The SurroundBar is unique.. with it's crossovers.. you can fun the fronts on large... i demoed it with my set up for two weeks.. while I didn't notice much difference running them in large or small.. the small setting sent more bass to the subwoofer.PolkFest 2012, who's going>?
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Just a quick note to say that I won't be posting my config for the 875 since I returned it. It's a fine piece of hardware but it was giving me far too many issues (in particular, the motion judder issue that a number of people are experiencing). I now have the Denon 3803ci that I'm enjoying quite a bit more than the Onkyo.
Best of luck getting the Onkyo working with the Surroundbar. It's a great receiver, but as I said, just not for me.
