CSi30 vs. CSi40

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donahue
donahue Posts: 125
edited January 2003 in Speakers
Hi,

I received a pair of RTi70s from my wife for Christmas. These will be replacing the fronts in my RM system. Next, I am looking to upgrade the center speaker. I am having a hard time deciding between the CSi30 and the CSi40. Currently, I am swaying towards the CSi30, simply for the fact that it is smaller than the CSi40. The CSi40 seems like a huge speaker. Any recommendations out there?

Thanks,

Ray
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  • kberg
    kberg Posts: 974
    edited January 2003
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    If you can afford it, go for the CSi40 for PERFECT timbre matching with the RTi70's. The drivers are exactly the same in the CSi40 as the RTi70's. You want as much center channel as you can afford that will ALSO match your front L/R speaks, since the center is truly the workhorse speaker of HT.

    Btw, your wife needs to talk to my wife about speakers as Xmas presents for next year!

    Hope this helps.
    Mains: polkaudio RTi70's (bi-wired)
    Center: polkaudio CSi40 (bi-wired)
    Surrounds: polkaudio FXi30's
    Rear Center: polkaudio CSi30
    Sub: SVS 20-39 PC+
    Receiver: ONKYO TX-SR600
    Display: JVC HD-56G786
    DVD Player: SONY DVP-CX985V
    DVD Player: OPPO DV-981HD 1080p High Definition Up-Converting Universal DVD Player with HDMI
    Remote: Logitech Harmony H688
  • dbournival
    dbournival Posts: 131
    edited January 2003
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    I have the older Cs400 which the CSi40 replaced. I would go with the 40 if you listen two in a blind A/B test you will probably go with the 40.
    My wife did not want to go with the 400 because if it's size but when I did the blind A/B comparison she said "Buy the big one".

    If you have a smaller room you may find the 30 ok, it's all up to your ears...
  • RuSsMaN
    RuSsMaN Posts: 17,987
    edited January 2003
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    First, the only true 'timber matched' speaker for your 70's, is another 70. However, either the 30 or 40 will mate well with your mains. I tend to prefer smaller drivers in my centers, they seem to typically handle on screen dialog better, at least to my ears.

    Try to demo both, and decide which works best for you, bigger isn't always better.

    Cheers,
    Russ
    Check your lips at the door woman. Shake your hips like battleships. Yeah, all the white girls trip when I sing at Sunday service.
  • fireshoes
    fireshoes Posts: 3,167
    edited January 2003
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    I have the center from an RM7600, which is similar to the CSi30, and I really wish I had a bigger center channel. The lack of low-end is distracting for me.
  • faster100
    faster100 Posts: 6,124
    edited January 2003
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    why do people like low end in a center?? Thats what my sub and mains is for right? The center takes care of all the talking in the HT setup so why do we need low end in a center, i know i don't want a rattleing speaker on my big screen, plus it will tend to make voices deeper and muffled if you have to much bass and low end right? Just my opinion, i have my center set to small and its a csi40
    MY HT RIG:
    Sherwood p-965
    Sherwood sd871 dvd
    Rotel 1075 amp x5
    LSI15 mains
    LsiC center
    LSIfx surround backs
    Lsi7 side surrounds
    SVS pb12/plus2


    2 Channel Rig:

    nad 1020 Pre-amp
    Rotel 1080 stereo amp
    Polk sda 2B
    kenwood grunt Tuner
    realistic lab 450 TT
    Signal cable IC
  • MxStYlEpOlKmAn
    MxStYlEpOlKmAn Posts: 2,116
    edited January 2003
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    Actually, the center channel does about what 60% if not more of all movies! lol! They take care of some of everything, from talking to explosions. Not to mention alot of people use theirs for music too
    Damn you all, damn you all to hell.......
    I promised myself
    No more speakers. None. Nada. And then you posted this!!!!
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  • dbournival
    dbournival Posts: 131
    edited January 2003
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    I have my polks all set to large, I have my BAs set to small. I think the both sound best that way respectively.
  • wlrandall
    wlrandall Posts: 440
    edited January 2003
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    "timber matched"...does that mean they're made from the same tree?? Just kidding.

    I would definitely go with the 40, much better match for the 70s you have.
  • dholmes
    dholmes Posts: 1,136
    edited January 2003
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    I am using 3 center spks ( with help from scottvamp) 1 csi40,2 rti38. I received a free sub, the polk 202 and hooked it up to the rti38s with the spk in & outs. All of them running on large setting, powed by a old sony es receiver. In my opinion it sounds great, with over 60% of action comeing from the center spk it only made sense to try it. If you can borrow the extra eq give it a try. D holmes a new member of center on steriods.
    My HT set-up Panasonic front proj, 120 in ws screen, ATI amp,Integra 9.8 pre-pro, 2 Polk rti150, cp 1000, 4 fx 1000, Pioneer blu-ray 2 SVS sub pb 12-ultra 2, & Paragon popcorn popper. ps 3 Coaster leather HT recliners.
  • ghostjwm
    ghostjwm Posts: 8
    edited January 2003
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    Ray definitely go with the CSi40 over the CSi30 with your RTi70's. I currently have RT800i's which are extremely similar to your RTi70's and originally started out with a CSi30 for my center channel. The RT800i's completely overwhelmed the CSi30 so I replaced it with the CSi40 and it made a huge difference. I just moved my CSi30 to my rear center channel and the sound is great. Hope that helps!


    Yamaha RXV2200 Receiver
    Polk RT800i's Main
    Polk CSi40 Center
    Polk F/Xi30's Surrounds
    Polk CSi30 Rear Center
    2 HSU VTF-2's Subwoofers
    Mitsubishi VS60805 TV
    Toshiba SD-5109 DVD Player
    Tivo 80 hour Recorder
    Yamaha RXV2200 Receiver
    Polk RT800i's Mains
    Polk CSi40 Center
    Polk F/Xi30's Surrounds
    Polk CSi30 Rear Center
    2 HSU VTF-2's Subwoofers
  • kberg
    kberg Posts: 974
    edited January 2003
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    ghostjwm,

    Your setup is pretty close to mine. I plan on replacing my Infinity CC2 rear center with a CSi30 that I'll be picking up tomorrow. Looks like from your profile that you have a CSi40 as a rear center as well? Did you mean CSi30?
    Mains: polkaudio RTi70's (bi-wired)
    Center: polkaudio CSi40 (bi-wired)
    Surrounds: polkaudio FXi30's
    Rear Center: polkaudio CSi30
    Sub: SVS 20-39 PC+
    Receiver: ONKYO TX-SR600
    Display: JVC HD-56G786
    DVD Player: SONY DVP-CX985V
    DVD Player: OPPO DV-981HD 1080p High Definition Up-Converting Universal DVD Player with HDMI
    Remote: Logitech Harmony H688
  • ghostjwm
    ghostjwm Posts: 8
    edited January 2003
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    Lol yep fixed that, thanks for catching it! I actually have 3 HT setups (wife is very forgiving allows me 3 large screen tv's) the other 2 are as follows:

    Denon 1802 receiver
    Mirage AVS100 center
    Mirage AVS200's mains
    Mirage AVS200's rears
    Mirage FRX-S8 subwoofer


    Yamaha RXV596 receiver
    Polk CSi30 center
    Polk RTi28's mains
    Mirage FRX-RB-1 rears
    Polk PSW350 subwoofer
    Mitsubishi VS60805 TV
    Toshiba SD-5109 DVD Player
    Tivo 80 hour Recorder
    Yamaha RXV2200 Receiver
    Polk RT800i's Mains
    Polk CSi40 Center
    Polk F/Xi30's Surrounds
    Polk CSi30 Rear Center
    2 HSU VTF-2's Subwoofers
  • Shizelbs
    Shizelbs Posts: 7,433
    edited January 2003
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    I recently did a listening test between the 30 and 40, and I think all you are getting out of the 40 is more bass. Which, I think makes it worth it. And your sub will make a different bass. I really wish I had got the R50's instead of the R40's just for more bass. Go for bigger.
  • ghostjwm
    ghostjwm Posts: 8
    edited January 2003
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    Since I have all my speakers set to small due to having dual HSU VTF-2 subwoofers my CSi40 isn't putting out bass. There is a decided difference between the level of sound coming out of the CSi40 compared to the CSi30. Hope that helps!
    Mitsubishi VS60805 TV
    Toshiba SD-5109 DVD Player
    Tivo 80 hour Recorder
    Yamaha RXV2200 Receiver
    Polk RT800i's Mains
    Polk CSi40 Center
    Polk F/Xi30's Surrounds
    Polk CSi30 Rear Center
    2 HSU VTF-2's Subwoofers
  • ghostjwm
    ghostjwm Posts: 8
    edited January 2003
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    Since I have all my speakers set to small due to having dual HSU VTF-2 subwoofers my CSi40 isn't putting out bass. There is a decided difference between the level of sound coming out of the CSi40 compared to the CSi30. Hope that helps!
    Mitsubishi VS60805 TV
    Toshiba SD-5109 DVD Player
    Tivo 80 hour Recorder
    Yamaha RXV2200 Receiver
    Polk RT800i's Mains
    Polk CSi40 Center
    Polk F/Xi30's Surrounds
    Polk CSi30 Rear Center
    2 HSU VTF-2's Subwoofers
  • faster100
    faster100 Posts: 6,124
    edited January 2003
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    how big is your house ghostjwm ? 3 large screen TV's... need we say more about long sigs, :)
    MY HT RIG:
    Sherwood p-965
    Sherwood sd871 dvd
    Rotel 1075 amp x5
    LSI15 mains
    LsiC center
    LSIfx surround backs
    Lsi7 side surrounds
    SVS pb12/plus2


    2 Channel Rig:

    nad 1020 Pre-amp
    Rotel 1080 stereo amp
    Polk sda 2B
    kenwood grunt Tuner
    realistic lab 450 TT
    Signal cable IC
  • danger boy
    danger boy Posts: 15,722
    edited January 2003
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    my 400i really doesn't put out any bass that i can tell. even when I switch from small to large. is this normal for centers not to put out much bass? Actually, i don't hear any increase in bass from small to large.
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  • RuSsMaN
    RuSsMaN Posts: 17,987
    edited January 2003
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    Twenty-Eight ****' lines, UNREAL.
    Check your lips at the door woman. Shake your hips like battleships. Yeah, all the white girls trip when I sing at Sunday service.
  • faster100
    faster100 Posts: 6,124
    edited January 2003
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    26 lines i came up with, Lay off the hooch or is it my screwed up vision :) kidding... I thought we fixed this sig thing the other day Russman??????? LOl
    MY HT RIG:
    Sherwood p-965
    Sherwood sd871 dvd
    Rotel 1075 amp x5
    LSI15 mains
    LsiC center
    LSIfx surround backs
    Lsi7 side surrounds
    SVS pb12/plus2


    2 Channel Rig:

    nad 1020 Pre-amp
    Rotel 1080 stereo amp
    Polk sda 2B
    kenwood grunt Tuner
    realistic lab 450 TT
    Signal cable IC
  • ghostjwm
    ghostjwm Posts: 8
    edited January 2003
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    Lol sorry guys didn't mean for the sig to be so long I have adjusted it!
    Mitsubishi VS60805 TV
    Toshiba SD-5109 DVD Player
    Tivo 80 hour Recorder
    Yamaha RXV2200 Receiver
    Polk RT800i's Mains
    Polk CSi40 Center
    Polk F/Xi30's Surrounds
    Polk CSi30 Rear Center
    2 HSU VTF-2's Subwoofers