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  • pitdogg2
    pitdogg2 Posts: 27,313
    I personally has seen it on two occasions. One was a TV's at a local firing range that had several monitors that displayed information. Whether called burn-in or image retention the fact of the matter is the image was there. When the content would flash to the next content you could clearly see the old image on the top and bottom of the screen. It was bad enought that it would distort the content image playing at the time as it went through the video.
    The other was a gamers TV that played a TON of shooting games. When his TV was off you, once again you clearly could see the image was forever there and would not go away.

    When I had my Panasonic Plasma TV (still have one not in use) I was told to use the full screen or enlarge the content playing to avoid the over use of the middle of the TV panel to avoid burn-in, which I did UNLESS I was watching a movie.
  • skipshot12
    skipshot12 Posts: 2,092
    Dang.
    New one on me, learned something today.

    How’s your Plasma, any burn?
    Do you use pixel shifting while you were watching?

    I try to not use the pixel shift, being a purist, but I always use screen wiping on a regular basis.
    Been able to keep my screen burn to a very slight burn, have to point it out to those that aren’t up to know what they’re looking for.
    Ours is on most all the day since new, have no idea of the viewing hours. Trying to get into that menu is a royal pain on the Panny Palasma’s.

    I always use mine on THX Cinema for all content.
    Never had the guts to try THX Cinema Bright or the Vivid setting. The Vivid setting just never looked right to me.
  • pitdogg2
    pitdogg2 Posts: 27,313
    I had my plasma professionally calibrated after 300hrs of use. Mine has zero issues, I used the wiping feature only once to see what it did. The company I used for the calibration warned me to avoid the wiping feature unless it was absolutely necessary as it could shorten the life of the panel.
    I did use pixel shift.
  • skipshot12
    skipshot12 Posts: 2,092
    Interesting.

    The VT’s & ZT’s were built to last as I’ve had zero issues other than the slight burn.

    Sure wish these weren’t discontinued.

    Beautiful picture along with being one of the best for viewing sports, no motion blur whatsoever.

    Apologies for hijacking the thread with our witty banter.
  • skipshot12
    skipshot12 Posts: 2,092
    edited December 2025
    Things that keep me up all night...
    Does this bother anyone else as to think when.

    With TV's now having more than 8 million Pixels and, it's just a matter of time before you see that one Pixel that's gone out?

    With some 8K TV's now having over 30 million 😳


  • billbillw
    billbillw Posts: 7,790
    edited December 2025
    From a typical seating position, you could not see that 1 pixel out, so nope, doesn't keep me up at night.
    FYI, to see the full 4K on a 65" screen, you have to be within 5 feet.
  • skipshot12
    skipshot12 Posts: 2,092
    Oh Boy Oh Boy...
    In the process of possibly scoring an oldie but a goodie.

    Conversing with a fella selling the best plasma tv ever made, the Panasonic 65" ZT60. Only made one year, 2013.
    3,500 hours on this tv that was rated @ 100,000 hours before starting to see anything noticeable with picture picture degradation, not even broken in yet.

    Have the Panny ZT in the 60" size and have been searching for one of these low hour 65" ZT60 for a long time.
    Pretty excited if this happens.
    Asking lots of questions to verify it is what it says it is.

    Only drawback... it's quite the haul there and back and it's quite heavy. These suckers were like 90+ lbs and, with the shipping container me thinks it was over 130 lbs.
    Not even thinking about trusting an outfit to ship this thing. They absolutely cannot be laid flat for transport, even if the original shipping container's are available.

    We're in the process of doing a home theater set-up downstairs. Movie nights are close.
    We have a pair of left & right Monster Eleganza Godfather subs (Godfather 1500's) that have been itching to be used. Have never installed them from new.
    The surround system will be Infinity's Prelude MTS's, all full range with subs & center, and the Godfather's. Neighbors.... hang on to your butts!

    Fingers crossed and knocking on wood.


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  • codyc1ark
    codyc1ark Posts: 2,539
    skipshot12 wrote: »

    Apologies for hijacking the thread with our witty banter.

    I can't believe you've taken it to this!!

    j/k - Hopefully someone can learn something from it, I've just been enjoying the set in my basement, window shopping new AVR's that do all the new cool stuff. I think my critical listening days are in the past; I can't really pick out the fun stuff with the never-ending ringing in my ears! ;)
  • skipshot12
    skipshot12 Posts: 2,092
    Sorry I blew up.
  • Toolfan66
    Toolfan66 Posts: 18,182
    edited March 23
    Just picked up a Sony 77" BRAVIA XR A95L

    So far I am loving it, haven't had much time on it yet, moving the other TV's around, and getting rid of one of them.

    But the depth,color, and blacks are insane, looking forward to settling in with it.

    It is replacing our Samsung 78" curve TV we have had, we are keeping it, just moving to another room..
  • skipshot12
    skipshot12 Posts: 2,092
    ^What are your thoughts on the Curved TV?
  • Conradicles
    Conradicles Posts: 6,376
    The top performing A95L. Congratulations!
  • billbillw
    billbillw Posts: 7,790
    Good choice of TV! My Sony OLED is over 4 years old now and still looks fantastic.
  • treitz3
    treitz3 Posts: 20,117
    Well, I got tired of watching my Samsung and the famous white dots. It started with 3, now we have 6. One of them, right on centered faces. Very annoying.

    I am going to join in on the Sony Bravia club. I couldn't find this thread when I ordered the TV. The search engine on this forum is like many. It bites. Anyhoo, I hope I made the right decision. I got a mini LED, Bravia 5 series. It's a 2025 model that I got at a decent price. Hopefully, it will last longer than the freakin' Samsungs.

    I mostly bought it because of the stand. Because our fireplace is the main feature in the LR and the built in entertainment area stands off to the side, the TV has to be angled. Most all of these newer TV's have stands that are very close to the edge of the TV....bringing the stand clearly off the shelf it sits on. Grrr. Oh well. There is one thing in life that is a constant. That is change.

    Another change is that many TV's now a days do not have audio out L&R. You have to go up to the big buck TV's in order to get that. Read, upwards of $4,000.00 or more. Sorry, but not for today's disposable TV's. I'll keep the cost down until I build up some more trust in their longevity. So, I will be pulling back out the ol' Musical Fidelity V-DAC (I know, blast from the past, eh?) and hooking that up for the RCA audio out L&R.

    My priorities are not the LR setup, so this should serve the family well. Who knows, this setup may make the Polk's sound a little better for movies. I think I have the Polk Lsi7's? Either that or the 9's. but I think they are the 7's. Those will be hooked up to a Cary pre and a Musical Fidelity A3cr amp, using the hand me down cables from the big rig.

    Question - would it be worth getting the thing calibrated, or is that generally considered a waste of money?

    Tom
    ~ In search of accurate reproduction of music. Real sound is my reference and while perfection may not be attainable? If I chase it, I might just catch excellence. ~
  • billbillw
    billbillw Posts: 7,790
    I probably wouldn't get it calibrated. The new Sonys are close enough out of the box for the casual viewer. Maybe check AVS forum for some shared calibration settings. What is your source? Cable box, built in Google TV, Roku, Blu-ray? The Sony Google TV interface has an excellent Netflix calibration built in for the 4K HDR stuff. AppleTV 4K boxes look great on Sonys Dolby Vision Dark setting. I just lowered the backlight a couple of tics. These new sets will blind you in the DV/HDR10 material.
  • treitz3
    treitz3 Posts: 20,117
    Roku Ultra is the main source. I have a digital antenna that I need to install and once that's done, that will be it besides a rarely used Sony Blue-Ray player.

    Tom
    ~ In search of accurate reproduction of music. Real sound is my reference and while perfection may not be attainable? If I chase it, I might just catch excellence. ~
  • billbillw
    billbillw Posts: 7,790
    Just remember to check the video settings for each source, and whenever the video format changes...ie, before and after you start material. There are different settings when it switches color spaces (ie: HDR vs SDR). Play around with demo videos at YouTube to get HDR10, Dolby Vision, etc.
  • treitz3
    treitz3 Posts: 20,117
    One word. Whoa!

    Tommy like.

    Tom
    ~ In search of accurate reproduction of music. Real sound is my reference and while perfection may not be attainable? If I chase it, I might just catch excellence. ~
  • Upstatemax
    Upstatemax Posts: 2,798
    treitz3 wrote: »
    Roku Ultra is the main source. I have a digital antenna that I need to install and once that's done, that will be it besides a rarely used Sony Blue-Ray player.

    Tom

    We got rid of our Roku streamers when we got our newer Sony TV's. The built in streaming worked a lot better and simplified everything.
  • pitdogg2
    pitdogg2 Posts: 27,313
    Upstatemax wrote: »
    treitz3 wrote: »
    Roku Ultra is the main source. I have a digital antenna that I need to install and once that's done, that will be it besides a rarely used Sony Blue-Ray player.

    Tom

    We got rid of our Roku streamers when we got our newer Sony TV's. The built in streaming worked a lot better and simplified everything.

    Although I've never used Roku, the new TV's seem to have a ton of free viewing if hooked up to the internet either by wire or WiFi. I've had my TV for a few years now and just recently took the plunge to see after my son mentioned it. He had just bought a new TV and also ditched his Roku and other thing a ma jiggy he had for the free stuff he's able to get.
  • billbillw
    billbillw Posts: 7,790
    Upstatemax wrote: »
    treitz3 wrote: »
    Roku Ultra is the main source. I have a digital antenna that I need to install and once that's done, that will be it besides a rarely used Sony Blue-Ray player.

    Tom

    We got rid of our Roku streamers when we got our newer Sony TV's. The built in streaming worked a lot better and simplified everything.

    That will vary depending how old the Roku boxes were. The lastest Ultra (2024) is going to be much faster than any built in Google TV interface. If the Roku was one of the stick models or a model that's older than ~2021, then I would agree the Sony interface might work better. My Ultra models are the 2022 version and it is noticeably faster than my Sony interface, which crashes often and is sluggish at best. My Sony is from 2021.
  • Upstatemax
    Upstatemax Posts: 2,798
    edited March 25
    billbillw wrote: »
    Upstatemax wrote: »
    treitz3 wrote: »
    Roku Ultra is the main source. I have a digital antenna that I need to install and once that's done, that will be it besides a rarely used Sony Blue-Ray player.

    Tom

    We got rid of our Roku streamers when we got our newer Sony TV's. The built in streaming worked a lot better and simplified everything.

    That will vary depending how old the Roku boxes were. The lastest Ultra (2024) is going to be much faster than any built in Google TV interface. If the Roku was one of the stick models or a model that's older than ~2021, then I would agree the Sony interface might work better. My Ultra models are the 2022 version and it is noticeably faster than my Sony interface, which crashes often and is sluggish at best. My Sony is from 2021.

    I think our oldest Sony TV in regular use is from 2021, the newest is a 2024 model. Speed hasn't been an issue.

    For sure, our older TV's were way slower and had stability issues, they were a big part of the reason that we had Roku Ultra's.

    But Sony's newer TV's have been plenty fast and much, much more stable.
  • billbillw
    billbillw Posts: 7,790
    Some users can get by with the Smart TV interface, but I much prefer to have an external streamer. My Sony has gotten slower with each update to Google TV, while my Roku Ultra and the AppleTV 4K I use are both consistent and trouble free. The Roku voice remote is still one of the best for simplicity, hand feel, and intuitive button location. The headphone jack in the remote is also great for simple late night viewing.
  • Upstatemax
    Upstatemax Posts: 2,798
    I get why some people would rather stick with something dedicated, but I also feel that the days of devices like a Roku are likely numbered as integrated streaming gets better and better.

    I'm actually able to connect my AirPod Pro's to my TV's if I want to keep noise levels low. It's a pretty awesome feature.
  • Upstatemax
    Upstatemax Posts: 2,798
    I also forgot, the picture quality on several apps (like Netflix) was better using the built in streaming. I guess using the built in streaming allows Sony to let the XR processors do more to improve the picture quality.
  • Emlyn
    Emlyn Posts: 4,825
    Upstatemax wrote: »
    I also forgot, the picture quality on several apps (like Netflix) was better using the built in streaming. I guess using the built in streaming allows Sony to let the XR processors do more to improve the picture quality.

    I've found the same. Sony is using top tier streaming and display tech for their best Bravia sets. I haven't even bothered to use my Fire 4K TV device since I got a Bravia 8 II.

    The improvements over a ten year old Sony Bravia set without HDR are huge.
  • Emlyn
    Emlyn Posts: 4,825
    I will also note that the built in streaming on Sony TVs from a few years ago was glitchy and not near as good as what's available now.
  • Toolfan66
    Toolfan66 Posts: 18,182
    Quick Update!!!

    I am loving this Sony, best TV we have owned hands down!!


    😎
  • treitz3
    treitz3 Posts: 20,117
    I can agree to this, Larry (with the TV I just got).

    Sony seems to have a superior product here. I am floored at just how just black the background is. I paused it last night, with all of the lights off and told my wife to look at the screen. It was just a blacked out portion at the beginning of a movie, between graphics shots/or a scene. I stated that the TV looked like it was off. She stated that she thought I actually did turn the the TV off. I hip "play" and she was a little taken aback that it wasn't off. Her exact word was, "Wow!"

    The picture blows all of the Samsungs I have and have had away and without changing a thing, the colors are vibrant, without being obnoxious or off color, and the separation of like colors has allowed us to notice things we hadn't been aware of before. I have instructed the family to not change a daggum thing on the picture settings.

    Overall, my point is that I agree. This is the best TV we have ever owned....and the competition has been left in the dust. I will never again buy a Samsung (or probably any other brand for that matter).

    Tom
    ~ In search of accurate reproduction of music. Real sound is my reference and while perfection may not be attainable? If I chase it, I might just catch excellence. ~
  • billbillw
    billbillw Posts: 7,790
    Sony has a great picture quality, but there are other sets in 2026 that are great as well. Don't discount the LG OLED models, especially the C models. Great for the price.