VPI Signature 21 Turntable.
Toolfan66
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Well, I pulled the trigger on an “open box”I’ve had my eye on for a few. Sounds like it was a demo unit.
Full warranty, 60 day guarantee.
The Music Room, said they would purchase my old VPI Scout 1.1
I purchased it from Jason here on the forum many moons ago.
Looking forward to the upgrade, and something new to play with. I’m sure I will have to have a new dust cover made.
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That Signature looks a lot like some of the classic TNT HRX model, but without the extra flywheels. I'm sure you will be pleased. Hopefully the sound improvement is worth the upgrade. I know the Scout punched well above its price point.
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I have a Prime. Had it for about 6-7 years. It’s a great table. What cart you going to get?2 Channel Rosso Fiorentino Volterra II, 2 REL Carbon Limited, Norma Revo IPA-140B, Norma Revo DAC-2, Lumin U2 Mini, VPI Prime w/SoundSmith Zephyr MIMC, Modwright PH 150, Denon DP-59l w/Denon DL-301MKII, WAY Silver 3 Ana+ Speaker Cables, WAY Interconnect Cables, AudioQuest Niagara 7000 w/Dragon, WAY power cables for all other sources.
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I have a Prime. Had it for about 6-7 years. It’s a great table. What cart you going to get?
For now, I will use my Dynavector DV 20x2, but thinking about a Soundsmith Zephyr, but not 100% sure yet. I would like to stay in that budget, or less..Post edited by Toolfan66 on -
I use the Soundsmith Zephyr MIMC on my Scout. Highly recommended.Political Correctness'.........defined
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The Zephyr MIMC is what I have. Great combo. Especially with the Modwright.2 Channel Rosso Fiorentino Volterra II, 2 REL Carbon Limited, Norma Revo IPA-140B, Norma Revo DAC-2, Lumin U2 Mini, VPI Prime w/SoundSmith Zephyr MIMC, Modwright PH 150, Denon DP-59l w/Denon DL-301MKII, WAY Silver 3 Ana+ Speaker Cables, WAY Interconnect Cables, AudioQuest Niagara 7000 w/Dragon, WAY power cables for all other sources.
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Well, The Soundsmith is what I will order, Thanks Guys..
Table should be here Sunday. I am super excited, definitely an end game table for me..
TMR Has a Prime that is a few years old, I could have got for less than the open box signature 21, I went back and forth in my head making a choice, part of me was hoping one would sell, and make the decision for me, LOL!! -
I use the Soundsmith Zephyr MIMC on my Scout. Highly recommended.The Zephyr MIMC is what I have. Great combo. Especially with the Modwright.
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Got mine from Upscale Audio.2 Channel Rosso Fiorentino Volterra II, 2 REL Carbon Limited, Norma Revo IPA-140B, Norma Revo DAC-2, Lumin U2 Mini, VPI Prime w/SoundSmith Zephyr MIMC, Modwright PH 150, Denon DP-59l w/Denon DL-301MKII, WAY Silver 3 Ana+ Speaker Cables, WAY Interconnect Cables, AudioQuest Niagara 7000 w/Dragon, WAY power cables for all other sources. -
Awesome purchase! I have always loved the look and sound of VPI tables, and this one coming with a top of the line arm feels like a very safe bet. I'm becoming more and more focused on getting a VPI in my system at some point.
Would love to hear feedback once you're all set up!Analog: Hana ML > MoFi UltraDeck > Bob's Devices Sky 20-S > Sutherland 20/20 w/LPS
Digital: Cambridge CXC / Streaming > Cambridge CXN v2
MastersounD Dueventi > Rosso Fiorentino Certaldo or Hifiman EF600 > Hifiman Arya Stealth
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I believe it was Elusive Disc.Political Correctness'.........defined
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Of course, Soundsmith sells direct as well, and the prices appear to be the same as the other retailers mentioned."This may not matter to you, but it does to me for various reasons, many of them illogical or irrational, but the vinyl hobby is not really logical or rational..." - member on Vinyl Engine
"Sometimes I do what I want to do. The rest of the time, I do what I have to." - Cicero, in Gladiator
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Of course, Soundsmith sells direct as well, and the prices appear to be the same as the other retailers mentioned.
Only if you can't find a retail outlet.To purchase Soundsmith products PLEASE contact your nearest dealer or Importer to your Country ( Worldwide US dealer/Importer list: Click Here ) If you cannot buy from one of our US dealers please use the below FORM to order. You may also use it to order from Canada, Middle East, Africa, South America, Mexico.Political Correctness'.........defined
"A doctrine fostered by a delusional, illogical minority and rabidly promoted by an unscrupulous mainstream media, which holds forth the proposition that it is entirely possible to pick up a t-u-r-d by the clean end."
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Ah...I've only purchased a couple of Grace F9 replacement styli from them, and did it from their website. Buying their cartridges must require going through a dealer."This may not matter to you, but it does to me for various reasons, many of them illogical or irrational, but the vinyl hobby is not really logical or rational..." - member on Vinyl Engine
"Sometimes I do what I want to do. The rest of the time, I do what I have to." - Cicero, in Gladiator
Regarding collectibles: "It's not who gets it. It's who gets stuck with it." - Jimmy Fallon -
Good dealPolitical Correctness'.........defined
"A doctrine fostered by a delusional, illogical minority and rabidly promoted by an unscrupulous mainstream media, which holds forth the proposition that it is entirely possible to pick up a t-u-r-d by the clean end."
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Good deal
I think so, I just wish I knew what “open Box” means for a cartridge, hours, original packaging? That kind of stuff..
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Ask them.Political Correctness'.........defined
"A doctrine fostered by a delusional, illogical minority and rabidly promoted by an unscrupulous mainstream media, which holds forth the proposition that it is entirely possible to pick up a t-u-r-d by the clean end."
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Ask them.
I sent an email this morning, if I don’t hear back, I will call Monday afternoon..
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Only dropped once....
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I’m like a little kid this morning, already up, drinking coffee, waiting for Santa to show up in his FedEx sleigh.
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Best wishes for a speedy and non-damaged delivery. I don't know about other folks here, but I am very excited for you. May audio bliss await. That is one cool TT!!!
Tom~ In search of accurate reproduction of music. Real sound is my reference and while perfection may not be attainable? If I chase it, I might just catch excellence. ~ -
Larry. Start prepping. Is the mounting location level. Get it as level as possible .2 Channel Rosso Fiorentino Volterra II, 2 REL Carbon Limited, Norma Revo IPA-140B, Norma Revo DAC-2, Lumin U2 Mini, VPI Prime w/SoundSmith Zephyr MIMC, Modwright PH 150, Denon DP-59l w/Denon DL-301MKII, WAY Silver 3 Ana+ Speaker Cables, WAY Interconnect Cables, AudioQuest Niagara 7000 w/Dragon, WAY power cables for all other sources.
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Larry. Start prepping. Is the mounting location level. Get it as level as possible .
Already done.. 😎
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Well, the table was delivered much later than I expected, so I won’t be listening to it tonight.
But I did get it out of the box, and set up to a certain point, and all I can say is WOW!! This table is absolutely stunning, very solid, and beautiful. Did I forget to say Heavy?
I have a few pieces of gear, that I feel grateful to have, this will definitely be one of them. This is one of those end game pieces..
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So, I’m a little frustrated, I have the cartridge all squared up, but I can’t set the tracking force, I have the weight all the way back, and it’s still too heavy on the front end. The fat boy 3D tonearm is different than the VPI tonearms we’re used to, it’s a very nice tonearm.
You can dial the weight forward and back, to adjust the tracking force.
I face timed a tech a little while ago, and showed him what’s going on. He said he will get back with me later on, and agrees something isn’t right. -
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So, you have the cartridge aligned properly and tracking force still too high with weight all the way back. Do they have different/heavier counterweights for the arm?
I've had tables/arms that supplied different counterweights and IIRC stub weights for heavier cartridges. I had to make a heavier counterweight for my linear air bearing arm when I added an Aluminum pot to a Denon 103R. I started with a putty ring and link from a small chain to get the exact weight needed to make an add on.
The manufacturer would make them special order, but DIY was quicker.
With your skillz, you could make a nice one.
EDIT: I see Elusive Disc sells various VPI JMW dropped counterweights from 100 to 200 grams. I also see not compatible but they list three different weights for the fatboy (180/220/260).
https://elusivedisc.com/vpi-jmw-dropped-counterweight-for-fatboy-tonearm-160-grams/?srsltid=AfmBOorlSZeMpsUmyUI7qtv1c_UVAsGtmdzpwcvpQxslSQwaTFKRUDWIdOE&gQT=2
https://elusivedisc.com/jmw-counterweight-260-grams-for-fatboy-arm/?srsltid=AfmBOoo0v71zXo4W_tCnVUZaOqTVKcEbxiUZvEHFBchxwhXQyTtTGmkT
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Yeah, I could make one, thats not a problem, but considering the money I spent, should I have to?
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Here is what the weight looks like, I brought it to work, so I could weigh it, it is 160 grams, .355lb
