One must admire her concern for the Michigan residents. I'm sure she's of the Northam mindset of keeping the baby comfortable until mama decides what to do. What a hipocritical swamp witch!
This is a lame, ad-hominem attack on someone who has acted, perhaps far too late. We must be better than this. When Ohio decided to restrict freedoms, I guess that was ok since the gov there is on the right side?
One must admire her concern for the Michigan residents. I'm sure she's of the Northam mindset of keeping the baby comfortable until mama decides what to do. What a hipocritical swamp witch!
This is a lame, ad-hominem attack on someone who has acted, perhaps far too late. We must be better than this. When Ohio decided to restrict freedoms, I guess that was ok since the gov there is on the right side?
Heck no it's not "ok". Doesn't matter what side of the isle you sit, that B.S. isn't going to fly and certainly doesn't excuse one from criticisms. The Gov. of Florida is on the right and he handled this whole thing like a moron.
How much better do we have to be than calling our elected officials out on their wrong doings ? That's what citizens are suppose to do...because heaven knows the supposedly "free press" isn't going to.
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Heck no it's not "ok". Doesn't matter what side of the isle you sit, that B.S. isn't going to fly and certainly doesn't excuse one from criticisms. The Gov. of Florida is on the right and he handled this whole thing like a moron.
How much better do we have to be than calling our elected officials out on their wrong doings ? That's what citizens are suppose to do...because heaven knows the supposedly "free press" isn't going to.
We agree on this. Most of the country reacted too late. I say better late than never for Michigan.
She is incompetent and therefore has no business telling anyone what to do.
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How does this have any impact? If you apply common sense behavior, when going up north to the Upper Peninsula? Or any other place? Are we East Germany now?
It prevents an infected person who is asymptomatic from one area of the state, to travel to another area of the state, go to a grocery store there and start a local outbreak in a new area.
Do we do that for all infectious diseases/viruses ? Or just this one ? It is physically impossible to tell if the vast majority of people in any state are asymptomatic. You can operate on the assumption everyone is, like they seem to be doing, but you'd be wrong. There is no evidence to suggest we are.
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Do we do that for all infectious diseases/viruses ? Or just this one ? It is physically impossible to tell if the vast majority of people in any state are asymptomatic. You can operate on the assumption everyone is, like they seem to be doing, but you'd be wrong. There is no evidence to suggest we are.
She is incompetent and therefore has no business telling anyone what to do.
Excerpt from the order.
How does this have any impact? If you apply common sense behavior, when going up north to the Upper Peninsula? Or any other place? Are we East Germany now?
It prevents an infected person who is asymptomatic from one area of the state, to travel to another area of the state, go to a grocery store there and start a local outbreak in a new area.
Asymptomatic or not, as long as you follow the precautions, IMO, you're ok, and should not impact others. You don't have to assume, IMO, in this case our Governor, that we are not capable of making intelligent choices for ourselves.
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Do we do that for all infectious diseases/viruses ? Or just this one ? It is physically impossible to tell if the vast majority of people in any state are asymptomatic. You can operate on the assumption everyone is, like they seem to be doing, but you'd be wrong. There is no evidence to suggest we are.
Fantastic, if we are to assume everyone has CV, then all those diseases under it must also be assumed everyone has, right ? .
This keeps getting better and better lol
This is a prime example of how information or data gets manipulated. 650K PEOPLE A YEAR DIE FROM HEART DISEASE !! Corona hasn't hit 20k yet.
You want to show me a chart with a snippet of time to tell me CV is taking over heart disease as the main killer. Dude....paaaalease.
You do not understand exponential growth apparently. This has been explained before, by me and others. At least our leaders are starting to understand - far too late. Maybe someday you will too, if you open your mind.
Fantastic, if we are to assume everyone has CV, then all those diseases under it must also be assumed everyone has, right ? .
This keeps getting better and better lol
This is a prime example of how information or data gets manipulated. 650K PEOPLE A YEAR DIE FROM HEART DISEASE !! Corona hasn't hit 20k yet.
You want to show me a chart with a snippet of time to tell me CV is taking over heart disease as the main killer. Dude....paaaalease.
You do not understand exponential growth apparently. This has been explained before, by me and others. At least our leaders are starting to understand - far too late. Maybe someday you will too, if you open your mind.
I understand the exponential growth of our economic disaster we are culminating as we speak
Asymptomatic or not, as long as you follow the precautions, IMO, you're ok, and should not impact others. You don't have to assume, IMO, in this case our Governor, that we are not capable of making intelligent choices for ourselves.
It should be obvious based on the disagreements we are having here, that there will be otherwise intelligent people who will not follow the precautions because they have different beliefs disconnected from science,
That would be perfectly alright if these people were making choices that would only killing themselves, unfortunately those people not following what the latest scientific are telling us, are risking not just themselves, but others. Hence why we need to curtail freedoms.
Think about the hundreds of people Boris Johnson has infected with his... I'm going to keep shaking hands moronic behavior... I shudder to think of how many deaths he has caused, single handedly, leave alone his actions as a role model.
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What number of deaths, round about, would be ok for you to return to a normal daily life ?
Thats a tough question. Probably zero from the perspective from those dying or their loved ones. Hopefully we can benchmark off some other countries data to know for sure when its safe to resume normal life.
What number of deaths, round about, would be ok for you to return to a normal daily life ?
Thats a tough question. Probably zero from the perspective from those dying or their loved ones.
Talk about classic gaslighting... “If we can save just one life, right?
Tell me this, and be honest - if we could save just one life by eliminating 10 million jobs and throwing 5 million families into homelessness and poverty, do you think it’s worth it?
What number of deaths, round about, would be ok for you to return to a normal daily life ?
Thats a tough question. Probably zero from the perspective from those dying or their loved ones.
Talk about classic gaslighting... “If we can save just one life, right?
Tell me this, and be honest - if we could save just one life by eliminating 10 million jobs and throwing 5 million families into homelessness and poverty, do you think it’s worth it?
What number of deaths, round about, would be ok for you to return to a normal daily life ?
Thats a tough question. Probably zero from the perspective from those dying or their loved ones.
Talk about classic gaslighting... “If we can save just one life, right?
Tell me this, and be honest - if we could save just one life by eliminating 10 million jobs and throwing 5 million families into homelessness and poverty, do you think it’s worth it?
I dunno man....how many people do you think is acceptable to have die to 'save the economy'. The ratio you quoted is a very extreme. Unfortunately a high percentage of people losing their jobs are considered working class or even middle class. They will have the toughest time recovering. People at the upper end of the spectrum may be losing money but will fair much better than those on the lower end(s) of the spectrum. The real danger is we rush back to normal life, fail to wipe out the virus completely, and have a resurgence in the fall. People and our economy are resilient. While this is all very unfortunate, we need to look at the long term. These points, of course, are my opinion.
What number of deaths, round about, would be ok for you to return to a normal daily life ?
Thats a tough question. Probably zero from the perspective from those dying or their loved ones.
Talk about classic gaslighting... “If we can save just one life, right?
Tell me this, and be honest - if we could save just one life by eliminating 10 million jobs and throwing 5 million families into homelessness and poverty, do you think it’s worth it?
You forgot the rise in crimes of desperation, domestic violence, and suicide
What number of deaths, round about, would be ok for you to return to a normal daily life ?
Thats a tough question. Probably zero from the perspective from those dying or their loved ones.
Talk about classic gaslighting... “If we can save just one life, right?
Tell me this, and be honest - if we could save just one life by eliminating 10 million jobs and throwing 5 million families into homelessness and poverty, do you think it’s worth it?
I dunno man....how many people do you think is acceptable to have die to 'save the economy'. The ratio you quoted is a very extreme. Unfortunately a high percentage of people losing their jobs are considered working class or even middle class. They will have the toughest time recovering. People at the upper end of the spectrum may be losing money but will fair much better than those on the lower end(s) of the spectrum. The real danger is we rush back to normal life, fail to wipe out the virus completely, and have a resurgence in the fall. People and our economy are resilient. While this is all very unfortunate, we need to look at the long term. These points, of course, are my opinion.
You’re not going to like the answer, but I will tell you that it’s more than this virus will kill. Period.
First of all, it’s not just “the economy” - it’s people’s life savings, retirement accounts, homes, cars, businesses, kids college funds, and yes, their audio gear. The ratio I quoted was to see if you are really serious and honest about saving “just one life”. If you admit that it is in fact worth “one life” to save any number of jobs and livelihoods, then we can actually have a conversation - but you decided to dodge...
Second, I am far more concerned about the “average Joe” than I am the “upper class”. And to be clear, it’s not the rich that are suffering right now - it’s the “average Joe” wondering how he’s going to make his next house payment, or pay his electric bill, because government shut down his place of employment.
Third, if you really think we have any chance to “wipe out the virus completely”, you need to learn more about virology. Everyone in this country will eventually be exposed to this virus - there is nowhere to hide - long term anyway.
What number of deaths, round about, would be ok for you to return to a normal daily life ?
Thats a tough question. Probably zero from the perspective from those dying or their loved ones.
Talk about classic gaslighting... “If we can save just one life, right?
Tell me this, and be honest - if we could save just one life by eliminating 10 million jobs and throwing 5 million families into homelessness and poverty, do you think it’s worth it?
I dunno man....how many people do you think is acceptable to have die to 'save the economy'. The ratio you quoted is a very extreme. Unfortunately a high percentage of people losing their jobs are considered working class or even middle class. They will have the toughest time recovering. People at the upper end of the spectrum may be losing money but will fair much better than those on the lower end(s) of the spectrum. The real danger is we rush back to normal life, fail to wipe out the virus completely, and have a resurgence in the fall. People and our economy are resilient. While this is all very unfortunate, we need to look at the long term. These points, of course, are my opinion.
You’re not going to like the answer, but I will tell you that it’s more than this virus will kill. Period.
First of all, it’s not just “the economy” - it’s people’s life savings, retirement accounts, homes, cars, businesses, kids college funds, and yes, their audio gear. The ratio I quoted was to see if you are really serious and honest about saving “just one life”. If you admit that it is in fact worth “one life” to save any number of jobs and livelihoods, then we can actually have a conversation - but you decided to dodge...
Second, I am far more concerned about the “average Joe” than I am the “upper class”. And to be clear, it’s not the rich that are suffering right now - it’s the “average Joe” wondering how he’s going to make his next house payment, or pay his electric bill, because government shut down his place of employment.
Third, if you really think we have any chance to “wipe out the virus completely”, you need to learn more about virology. Everyone in this country will eventually be exposed to this virus - there is nowhere to hide - long term anyway.
So are you suggesting that we expose everyone and just see how it goes? What’s the alternative without completely overrunning the healthcare system and causing a much more catastrophic blow to the economy? You keep telling people they’re dodging the question but I haven’t heard a viable alternative yet. Do you actually have one?
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What number of deaths, round about, would be ok for you to return to a normal daily life ?
Thats a tough question. Probably zero from the perspective from those dying or their loved ones.
Talk about classic gaslighting... “If we can save just one life, right?
Tell me this, and be honest - if we could save just one life by eliminating 10 million jobs and throwing 5 million families into homelessness and poverty, do you think it’s worth it?
I dunno man....how many people do you think is acceptable to have die to 'save the economy'. The ratio you quoted is a very extreme. Unfortunately a high percentage of people losing their jobs are considered working class or even middle class. They will have the toughest time recovering. People at the upper end of the spectrum may be losing money but will fair much better than those on the lower end(s) of the spectrum. The real danger is we rush back to normal life, fail to wipe out the virus completely, and have a resurgence in the fall. People and our economy are resilient. While this is all very unfortunate, we need to look at the long term. These points, of course, are my opinion.
You’re not going to like the answer, but I will tell you that it’s more than this virus will kill. Period.
First of all, it’s not just “the economy” - it’s people’s life savings, retirement accounts, homes, cars, businesses, kids college funds, and yes, their audio gear. The ratio I quoted was to see if you are really serious and honest about saving “just one life”. If you admit that it is in fact worth “one life” to save any number of jobs and livelihoods, then we can actually have a conversation - but you decided to dodge...
Second, I am far more concerned about the “average Joe” than I am the “upper class”. And to be clear, it’s not the rich that are suffering right now - it’s the “average Joe” wondering how he’s going to make his next house payment, or pay his electric bill, because government shut down his place of employment.
Third, if you really think we have any chance to “wipe out the virus completely”, you need to learn more about virology. Everyone in this country will eventually be exposed to this virus - there is nowhere to hide - long term anyway.
So are you suggesting that we expose everyone and just see how it goes? What’s the alternative without completely overrunning the healthcare system and causing a much more catastrophic blow to the economy? You keep telling people they’re dodging the question but I haven’t heard a viable alternative yet. Do you actually have one?
Why does it have to be an “all or none”? How about we start with protecting the elderly and those with underlying health issues - shelter them in place. Then, let’s not shut down business and economic activity, but rather take an intelligent approach. For example, maybe restaurants cut their amount of available tables by half, creating distance between patrons. Maybe theaters do the same, selling every 3rd seat? Or 5th? Why are golf courses closed? Talk about distancing... malls? Same thing - plenty of room for people to distance. What about weddings and funerals? I’m pretty sure a group of 50 people can assemble responsibility, without the nanny state arresting people for being in a park with their kids.
What number of deaths, round about, would be ok for you to return to a normal daily life ?
Thats a tough question. Probably zero from the perspective from those dying or their loved ones.
Talk about classic gaslighting... “If we can save just one life, right?
Tell me this, and be honest - if we could save just one life by eliminating 10 million jobs and throwing 5 million families into homelessness and poverty, do you think it’s worth it?
How about this one... Former and current military sworn to protect the Constitution against all enemies, foreign and domestic, now watching our sacred liberties shredded before our very eyes and not one person even bats an eye.
What did our brothers and sisters in arms loose life and limb for, especially now that the people we swore that oath to protect could care less that their liberty is being taken away and they barely make a noise?
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Oh, I think plenty of us are batting an eye. The problem is very few of those in authority are listening.
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Showing us models with a 2.2 million death projection was more effective than telling us the truth: Fatties with diabetes should stay home!
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This is a lame, ad-hominem attack on someone who has acted, perhaps far too late. We must be better than this. When Ohio decided to restrict freedoms, I guess that was ok since the gov there is on the right side?
Heck no it's not "ok". Doesn't matter what side of the isle you sit, that B.S. isn't going to fly and certainly doesn't excuse one from criticisms. The Gov. of Florida is on the right and he handled this whole thing like a moron.
How much better do we have to be than calling our elected officials out on their wrong doings ? That's what citizens are suppose to do...because heaven knows the supposedly "free press" isn't going to.
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We agree on this. Most of the country reacted too late. I say better late than never for Michigan.
Do we do that for all infectious diseases/viruses ? Or just this one ? It is physically impossible to tell if the vast majority of people in any state are asymptomatic. You can operate on the assumption everyone is, like they seem to be doing, but you'd be wrong. There is no evidence to suggest we are.
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LMAO....
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This chart should give us our answer: https://public.flourish.studio/visualisation/1812248/?fbclid=IwAR0g0OoxDLfU8F4OWBCiaM12IE8qutjLO2gAw7rZem2zUGhphp0Tu5GK0uI
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Asymptomatic or not, as long as you follow the precautions, IMO, you're ok, and should not impact others. You don't have to assume, IMO, in this case our Governor, that we are not capable of making intelligent choices for ourselves.
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Fantastic, if we are to assume everyone has CV, then all those diseases under it must also be assumed everyone has, right ? .
This keeps getting better and better lol
This is a prime example of how information or data gets manipulated. 650K PEOPLE A YEAR DIE FROM HEART DISEASE !! Corona hasn't hit 20k yet.
You want to show me a chart with a snippet of time to tell me CV is taking over heart disease as the main killer. Dude....paaaalease.
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You do not understand exponential growth apparently. This has been explained before, by me and others. At least our leaders are starting to understand - far too late. Maybe someday you will too, if you open your mind.
I understand the exponential growth of our economic disaster we are culminating as we speak
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It should be obvious based on the disagreements we are having here, that there will be otherwise intelligent people who will not follow the precautions because they have different beliefs disconnected from science,
That would be perfectly alright if these people were making choices that would only killing themselves, unfortunately those people not following what the latest scientific are telling us, are risking not just themselves, but others. Hence why we need to curtail freedoms.
Think about the hundreds of people Boris Johnson has infected with his... I'm going to keep shaking hands moronic behavior... I shudder to think of how many deaths he has caused, single handedly, leave alone his actions as a role model.
Yes. We are fighting two battles at one time. Unfortunately no easy solutions.
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Thats a tough question. Probably zero from the perspective from those dying or their loved ones. Hopefully we can benchmark off some other countries data to know for sure when its safe to resume normal life.
Talk about classic gaslighting... “If we can save just one life, right?
Tell me this, and be honest - if we could save just one life by eliminating 10 million jobs and throwing 5 million families into homelessness and poverty, do you think it’s worth it?
No. I found this article helpful in understanding the economic choices: https://www.economist.com/leaders/2020/04/02/covid-19-presents-stark-choices-between-life-death-and-the-economy
You forgot the rise in crimes of desperation, domestic violence, and suicide
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You’re not going to like the answer, but I will tell you that it’s more than this virus will kill. Period.
First of all, it’s not just “the economy” - it’s people’s life savings, retirement accounts, homes, cars, businesses, kids college funds, and yes, their audio gear. The ratio I quoted was to see if you are really serious and honest about saving “just one life”. If you admit that it is in fact worth “one life” to save any number of jobs and livelihoods, then we can actually have a conversation - but you decided to dodge...
Second, I am far more concerned about the “average Joe” than I am the “upper class”. And to be clear, it’s not the rich that are suffering right now - it’s the “average Joe” wondering how he’s going to make his next house payment, or pay his electric bill, because government shut down his place of employment.
Third, if you really think we have any chance to “wipe out the virus completely”, you need to learn more about virology. Everyone in this country will eventually be exposed to this virus - there is nowhere to hide - long term anyway.
So are you suggesting that we expose everyone and just see how it goes? What’s the alternative without completely overrunning the healthcare system and causing a much more catastrophic blow to the economy? You keep telling people they’re dodging the question but I haven’t heard a viable alternative yet. Do you actually have one?
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Why does it have to be an “all or none”? How about we start with protecting the elderly and those with underlying health issues - shelter them in place. Then, let’s not shut down business and economic activity, but rather take an intelligent approach. For example, maybe restaurants cut their amount of available tables by half, creating distance between patrons. Maybe theaters do the same, selling every 3rd seat? Or 5th? Why are golf courses closed? Talk about distancing... malls? Same thing - plenty of room for people to distance. What about weddings and funerals? I’m pretty sure a group of 50 people can assemble responsibility, without the nanny state arresting people for being in a park with their kids.
And that’s just for starters.
What are your ideas?
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Spare Room: Antique Sound Labs Wave AV-8 Monoblocks, Tisbury Mini Passive Pre, Tjoeb 99 tube CD player (modified Marantz CD-38), Analysis Plus Oval 9's, Zu Jumpers, AudioEngine B1 Streamer, Klipsch RB-61 v2, SVS PB1000 sub, Blue Jeans RCA IC's, Shunyata Hydra 8 Power Conditioner
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How about this one... Former and current military sworn to protect the Constitution against all enemies, foreign and domestic, now watching our sacred liberties shredded before our very eyes and not one person even bats an eye.
What did our brothers and sisters in arms loose life and limb for, especially now that the people we swore that oath to protect could care less that their liberty is being taken away and they barely make a noise?
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Well, this fattie with diabetes for 52 years is certainly staying at home.
So, dem boots ain't made fer walkin'.
"A doctrine fostered by a delusional, illogical minority and rabidly promoted by an unscrupulous mainstream media, which holds forth the proposition that it is entirely possible to pick up a t-u-r-d by the clean end."
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