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  • verbverb Posts: 10,155
    Very cool! :smile:
    Battle Creek man projects Disney songs outside his home to share joy

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  • halohalo Posts: 5,537
    @F1nut - Vincenzo asked to be released and he was told to quarantine at home by hospital staff (this wasn't a small hospital either, one of the top 2 in downtown Chicago). Vincenzo told me that they don't want patients with this virus at the hospital.

    As to the veracity, I believe him but, as far as your take on it, I can only relay to you what he told me and allow you to do what you will with it.
  • nooshinjohnnooshinjohn Posts: 22,677
    verb wrote: »
    Very cool! :smile:
    Battle Creek man projects Disney songs outside his home to share joy

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    This will end as soon as Disney’s lawyers get wind of it. Sadly, they are an over-aggressive bunch with no sense of caring or compassion.

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  • verbverb Posts: 10,155
    I love this place! An annual pilgrimage, when the weather begins to turn cold, apple cider and donuts! Giving away free meals! :smile:
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  • verbverb Posts: 10,155
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  • verbverb Posts: 10,155
    Not sure how to interpret this. Full discretion? From doing nothing, other than encouraging folks to stay safe, to checkpoints at the border?

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    https://www.cdc.gov/coronavirus/2019-ncov/travelers/travel-in-the-us.html
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  • F1nutF1nut Posts: 44,507
    halo wrote: »
    @F1nut - Vincenzo asked to be released and he was told to quarantine at home by hospital staff (this wasn't a small hospital either, one of the top 2 in downtown Chicago). Vincenzo told me that they don't want patients with this virus at the hospital.

    As to the veracity, I believe him but, as far as your take on it, I can only relay to you what he told me and allow you to do what you will with it.

    Some hospital.....geeesh!
    Political Correctness'.........defined

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  • BlueFoxBlueFox Posts: 13,295
    It is starting to appear the ‘Stay at home’ program will be extended to May. Also, I wouldn’t be surprised if more states are added to the current states already implementing this program.
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  • tonybtonyb Posts: 32,433
    edited March 29

    The following is from Irene Ken physician, whose daughter is an Asst. Prof in infectious diseases at Johns Hopkins University, quite informative.

    * The virus is not a living organism, but a protein molecule (DNA) covered by a protective layer of lipid (fat), which, when absorbed by the cells of the ocular, nasal or buccal mucosa, changes their genetic code. (mutation) and convert them into aggressor and multiplier cells.

    * Since the virus is not a living organism but a protein molecule, it is not killed, but decays on its own. The disintegration time depends on the temperature, humidity and type of material where it lies.

    * The virus is very fragile; the only thing that protects it is a thin outer layer of fat. That is why any soap or detergent is the best remedy, because the foam CUTS the FAT (that is why you have to rub so much: for 20 seconds or more, to make a lot of foam).

    By dissolving the fat layer, the protein molecule disperses and breaks down on its own.

    * HEAT melts fat; this is why it is so good to use water above 25 degrees Celsius for washing hands, clothes and everything. In addition, hot water makes more foam and that makes it even more useful.

    * Alcohol or any mixture with alcohol over 65% DISSOLVES ANY FAT, especially the external lipid layer of the virus.

    * Any mix with 1 part bleach and 5 parts water directly dissolves the protein, breaks it down from the inside.

    * Oxygenated water helps long after soap, alcohol and chlorine, because peroxide dissolves the virus protein, but you have to use it pure and it hurts your skin.

    * NO BACTERICIDE OR ANTIBIOTIC SERVES. The virus is not a living organism like bacteria; antibodies cannot kill what is not alive.

    * NEVER shake used or unused clothing, sheets or cloth. While it is glued to a porous surface, it is very inert and disintegrates only
    -between 3 hours (fabric and porous),
    -4 hours (copper and wood)
    -24 hours (cardboard),
    - 42 hours (metal) and
    -72 hours (plastic).

    But if you shake it or use a feather duster, the virus molecules float in the air for up to 3 hours, and can lodge in your nose.

    * The virus molecules remain very stable in external cold, or artificial as air conditioners in houses and cars.

    They also need moisture to stay stable, and especially darkness. Therefore, dehumidified, dry, warm and bright environments will degrade it faster.

    * UV LIGHT on any object that may contain it breaks down the virus protein. For example, to disinfect and reuse a mask is perfect. Be careful, it also breaks down collagen (which is protein) in the skin.

    * The virus CANNOT go through healthy skin.

    * Vinegar is NOT useful because it does not break down the protective layer of fat.

    * NO SPIRITS, NOR VODKA, serve. The strongest vodka is 40% alcohol, and you need 65%.

    * LISTERINE IF IT SERVES! It is 65% alcohol.

    * The more confined the space, the more concentration of the virus there can be. The more open or naturally ventilated, the less.

    * You have to wash your hands before and after touching mucosa, food, locks, knobs, switches, remote control, cell phone, watches, computers, desks, TV, etc. And when using the bathroom.

    * You have to HUMIDIFY HANDS DRY from so much washing them, because the molecules can hide in the micro cracks. The thicker the moisturizer, the better.

    * Also keep your NAILS SHORT so that the virus does not hide there.

    -JOHNS HOPKINS HOSPITAL
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  • la2vegasla2vegas Posts: 4,230
    verb wrote: »
    Breaking News! Beginning tomorrow, I will be performing a temporary assignment outside of my normal duties.

    I will be part of a volunteer team producing masks and face shields for GM! I am to report to a local assembly plant tomorrow morning! :smile:

    God Bless the USA! :smile:

    Are going to receive Hero Pay?
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  • motorhead43026motorhead43026 Posts: 3,643
    edited March 29
    ^^Battelle Laboratories from right here in Columbus, OH.

    BTW Battelle invented the compact disc technology, amoung a host of other things.
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  • msgmsg Posts: 5,558
    verb wrote: »
    Breaking News! Beginning tomorrow, I will be performing a temporary assignment outside of my normal duties.

    I will be part of a volunteer team producing masks and face shields for GM! I am to report to a local assembly plant tomorrow morning! :smile:

    God Bless the USA! :smile:

    Be safe, Dave.
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  • verbverb Posts: 10,155
    Thanks Scott.

    It’s amazing to me. Normally I don’t have my work phone near me on the weekends, but since I’m working from home lately it was on my desk in the office. Then it started blowing up with texts! My boss asking the team for volunteers, and within 30 minutes we have tomorrow covered. 14 workers to start.

    Looks like they’re gonna rotate teams in and out throughout the week and increase the workforce of volunteers as needed to support the production.
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  • JstasJstas Posts: 14,181
    tonyb wrote: »
    The following is from Irene Ken physician, whose daughter is an Asst. Prof in infectious diseases at Johns Hopkins University, quite informative.

    * The virus is not a living organism, but a protein molecule (DNA) covered by a protective layer of lipid (fat), which, when absorbed by the cells of the ocular, nasal or buccal mucosa, changes their genetic code. (mutation) and convert them into aggressor and multiplier cells.

    * Since the virus is not a living organism but a protein molecule, it is not killed, but decays on its own. The disintegration time depends on the temperature, humidity and type of material where it lies.

    * The virus is very fragile; the only thing that protects it is a thin outer layer of fat. That is why any soap or detergent is the best remedy, because the foam CUTS the FAT (that is why you have to rub so much: for 20 seconds or more, to make a lot of foam).

    By dissolving the fat layer, the protein molecule disperses and breaks down on its own.

    * HEAT melts fat; this is why it is so good to use water above 25 degrees Celsius for washing hands, clothes and everything. In addition, hot water makes more foam and that makes it even more useful.

    * Alcohol or any mixture with alcohol over 65% DISSOLVES ANY FAT, especially the external lipid layer of the virus.

    * Any mix with 1 part bleach and 5 parts water directly dissolves the protein, breaks it down from the inside.

    * Oxygenated water helps long after soap, alcohol and chlorine, because peroxide dissolves the virus protein, but you have to use it pure and it hurts your skin.

    * NO BACTERICIDE OR ANTIBIOTIC SERVES. The virus is not a living organism like bacteria; antibodies cannot kill what is not alive.

    * NEVER shake used or unused clothing, sheets or cloth. While it is glued to a porous surface, it is very inert and disintegrates only
    -between 3 hours (fabric and porous),
    -4 hours (copper and wood)
    -24 hours (cardboard),
    - 42 hours (metal) and
    -72 hours (plastic).

    But if you shake it or use a feather duster, the virus molecules float in the air for up to 3 hours, and can lodge in your nose.

    * The virus molecules remain very stable in external cold, or artificial as air conditioners in houses and cars.

    They also need moisture to stay stable, and especially darkness. Therefore, dehumidified, dry, warm and bright environments will degrade it faster.

    * UV LIGHT on any object that may contain it breaks down the virus protein. For example, to disinfect and reuse a mask is perfect. Be careful, it also breaks down collagen (which is protein) in the skin.

    * The virus CANNOT go through healthy skin.

    * Vinegar is NOT useful because it does not break down the protective layer of fat.

    * NO SPIRITS, NOR VODKA, serve. The strongest vodka is 40% alcohol, and you need 65%.

    * LISTERINE IF IT SERVES! It is 65% alcohol.

    * The more confined the space, the more concentration of the virus there can be. The more open or naturally ventilated, the less.

    * You have to wash your hands before and after touching mucosa, food, locks, knobs, switches, remote control, cell phone, watches, computers, desks, TV, etc. And when using the bathroom.

    * You have to HUMIDIFY HANDS DRY from so much washing them, because the molecules can hide in the micro cracks. The thicker the moisturizer, the better.

    * Also keep your NAILS SHORT so that the virus does not hide there.

    -JOHNS HOPKINS HOSPITAL

    This pretty much goes for any virus, not just COVID-19.

    Also to those times for "surviving" on certain surfaces, they are ranges. Those numbers are "up to" not a definitive standard. Depending on environmental conditions the virus can remain viable for up to those times. However, that doesn't mean that, for example, you have 100 virus cells on a piece of cardboard that after 24 hours you are still going to have 100 active, viable viruses on the cardboard. It just means that during testing in lab conditions, there were a number of viable viruses that could still cause infection under certain, specific circumstances. Whether than number is 1 or 100 is never reported in the stories about the studies. Nor do they ever say what perfect set of circumstances led to the highest number of viable pathogens after the given time frame.

    Unless someone specifically coughed, spit, licked or put some other bodily fluid on the item and you picked it up within a certain short period of time from the infected person being a degenerate and you handling it, your chances of contracting the virus are between slim and none. Yes, reasonable precautions should be taken. A reasonable precaution would be to, say, leave a delivered package unhandled for a few hours or unpack your item with gloves outside and dispose of the shipping material outside. An unreasonable precaution would be to spray down the entire package with Lysol and then wipe down the items with disinfectant wipes after you brought it inside and potentially infected the interior of your house.

    Viruses do not survive without a host. Even in perfect conditions for virus survival, they will break down at some point. Yes, some are more resilient than others but they all will fail in their genetic structure at some point due to environmental hostilities. The precautions they tell you to take are so that the virus stays in the hostile environment to meet its demise in a timely fashion rather than escape it to hide out in you and make itself some company.
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  • treitz3treitz3 Posts: 14,506
    I believe this is the first fatality in the music industry (musician wise) that COVID-19 has taken away from us.
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    NASHVILLE, Tenn. (WTVF) — Grammy-winning country music artist Joe Diffie died due to complications of COVID-19, according to Adkins Publicity.

    Diffie, 61, told his fans he tested positive for the virus on Friday, March 27. His management company announced his death in a press release Sunday.

    Recent Stories from newschannel5.com

    The country star was a successful singer/songwriter in the 1990s. His hits included "Pickup Man," "Third Rock From the Sun," "If the Devil Danced," and "Prop Me Up Beside The Jukebox If I Die."

    Diffie also wrote hits for artists like Tim McGraw, Conway Twitty, and Jo Dee Messina. He has more than 20 top ten hits.

    He's recently known for hits ranging from Jason Aldean (“1994”) to Chris Young (“Raised On Country”)"


    https://www.newschannel5.com/news/country-artist-joe-diffie-dies-from-covid-19

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  • ADJADJ Posts: 46
    tonyb wrote: »
    The following is from Irene Ken physician, whose daughter is an Asst. Prof in infectious diseases at Johns Hopkins University, quite informative.

    * The virus is not a living organism, but a protein molecule (DNA) covered by a protective layer of lipid (fat), which, when absorbed by the cells of the ocular, nasal or buccal mucosa, changes their genetic code. (mutation) and convert them into aggressor and multiplier cells.

    * Since the virus is not a living organism but a protein molecule, it is not killed, but decays on its own. The disintegration time depends on the temperature, humidity and type of material where it lies.

    * The virus is very fragile; the only thing that protects it is a thin outer layer of fat. That is why any soap or detergent is the best remedy, because the foam CUTS the FAT (that is why you have to rub so much: for 20 seconds or more, to make a lot of foam).

    By dissolving the fat layer, the protein molecule disperses and breaks down on its own.

    * HEAT melts fat; this is why it is so good to use water above 25 degrees Celsius for washing hands, clothes and everything. In addition, hot water makes more foam and that makes it even more useful.

    * Alcohol or any mixture with alcohol over 65% DISSOLVES ANY FAT, especially the external lipid layer of the virus.

    * Any mix with 1 part bleach and 5 parts water directly dissolves the protein, breaks it down from the inside.

    * Oxygenated water helps long after soap, alcohol and chlorine, because peroxide dissolves the virus protein, but you have to use it pure and it hurts your skin.

    * NO BACTERICIDE OR ANTIBIOTIC SERVES. The virus is not a living organism like bacteria; antibodies cannot kill what is not alive.

    * NEVER shake used or unused clothing, sheets or cloth. While it is glued to a porous surface, it is very inert and disintegrates only
    -between 3 hours (fabric and porous),
    -4 hours (copper and wood)
    -24 hours (cardboard),
    - 42 hours (metal) and
    -72 hours (plastic).

    But if you shake it or use a feather duster, the virus molecules float in the air for up to 3 hours, and can lodge in your nose.

    * The virus molecules remain very stable in external cold, or artificial as air conditioners in houses and cars.

    They also need moisture to stay stable, and especially darkness. Therefore, dehumidified, dry, warm and bright environments will degrade it faster.

    * UV LIGHT on any object that may contain it breaks down the virus protein. For example, to disinfect and reuse a mask is perfect. Be careful, it also breaks down collagen (which is protein) in the skin.

    * The virus CANNOT go through healthy skin.

    * Vinegar is NOT useful because it does not break down the protective layer of fat.

    * NO SPIRITS, NOR VODKA, serve. The strongest vodka is 40% alcohol, and you need 65%.

    * LISTERINE IF IT SERVES! It is 65% alcohol.

    * The more confined the space, the more concentration of the virus there can be. The more open or naturally ventilated, the less.

    * You have to wash your hands before and after touching mucosa, food, locks, knobs, switches, remote control, cell phone, watches, computers, desks, TV, etc. And when using the bathroom.

    * You have to HUMIDIFY HANDS DRY from so much washing them, because the molecules can hide in the micro cracks. The thicker the moisturizer, the better.

    * Also keep your NAILS SHORT so that the virus does not hide there.

    -JOHNS HOPKINS HOSPITAL

    For someone that prides himself on his Google research abilities, this really makes me laugh. It is so poorly written that any reasonable person would question the validity straight off. Further investigation shows no affiliation to John Hopkins whatsoever.
  • daddyjtdaddyjt Posts: 1,459
    ADJ wrote: »
    tonyb wrote: »
    The following is from Irene Ken physician, whose daughter is an Asst. Prof in infectious diseases at Johns Hopkins University, quite informative.

    * The virus is not a living organism, but a protein molecule (DNA) covered by a protective layer of lipid (fat), which, when absorbed by the cells of the ocular, nasal or buccal mucosa, changes their genetic code. (mutation) and convert them into aggressor and multiplier cells.

    * Since the virus is not a living organism but a protein molecule, it is not killed, but decays on its own. The disintegration time depends on the temperature, humidity and type of material where it lies.

    * The virus is very fragile; the only thing that protects it is a thin outer layer of fat. That is why any soap or detergent is the best remedy, because the foam CUTS the FAT (that is why you have to rub so much: for 20 seconds or more, to make a lot of foam).

    By dissolving the fat layer, the protein molecule disperses and breaks down on its own.

    * HEAT melts fat; this is why it is so good to use water above 25 degrees Celsius for washing hands, clothes and everything. In addition, hot water makes more foam and that makes it even more useful.

    * Alcohol or any mixture with alcohol over 65% DISSOLVES ANY FAT, especially the external lipid layer of the virus.

    * Any mix with 1 part bleach and 5 parts water directly dissolves the protein, breaks it down from the inside.

    * Oxygenated water helps long after soap, alcohol and chlorine, because peroxide dissolves the virus protein, but you have to use it pure and it hurts your skin.

    * NO BACTERICIDE OR ANTIBIOTIC SERVES. The virus is not a living organism like bacteria; antibodies cannot kill what is not alive.

    * NEVER shake used or unused clothing, sheets or cloth. While it is glued to a porous surface, it is very inert and disintegrates only
    -between 3 hours (fabric and porous),
    -4 hours (copper and wood)
    -24 hours (cardboard),
    - 42 hours (metal) and
    -72 hours (plastic).

    But if you shake it or use a feather duster, the virus molecules float in the air for up to 3 hours, and can lodge in your nose.

    * The virus molecules remain very stable in external cold, or artificial as air conditioners in houses and cars.

    They also need moisture to stay stable, and especially darkness. Therefore, dehumidified, dry, warm and bright environments will degrade it faster.

    * UV LIGHT on any object that may contain it breaks down the virus protein. For example, to disinfect and reuse a mask is perfect. Be careful, it also breaks down collagen (which is protein) in the skin.

    * The virus CANNOT go through healthy skin.

    * Vinegar is NOT useful because it does not break down the protective layer of fat.

    * NO SPIRITS, NOR VODKA, serve. The strongest vodka is 40% alcohol, and you need 65%.

    * LISTERINE IF IT SERVES! It is 65% alcohol.

    * The more confined the space, the more concentration of the virus there can be. The more open or naturally ventilated, the less.

    * You have to wash your hands before and after touching mucosa, food, locks, knobs, switches, remote control, cell phone, watches, computers, desks, TV, etc. And when using the bathroom.

    * You have to HUMIDIFY HANDS DRY from so much washing them, because the molecules can hide in the micro cracks. The thicker the moisturizer, the better.

    * Also keep your NAILS SHORT so that the virus does not hide there.

    -JOHNS HOPKINS HOSPITAL

    For someone that prides himself on his Google research abilities, this really makes me laugh. It is so poorly written that any reasonable person would question the validity straight off. Further investigation shows no affiliation to John Hopkins whatsoever.

    Out of curiosity, which points are factually incorrect?
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  • ADJADJ Posts: 46
    I'm not going to go through the whole list. It's easy enough to start with the first assertion...coronavirus is RNA based, not DNA.
  • JstasJstas Posts: 14,181
    ADJ wrote: »
    I'm not going to go through the whole list. It's easy enough to start with the first assertion...coronavirus is RNA based, not DNA.

    Aside from poor writing skills, that's about the only thing that isn't correct and for your average non-medical/non-geneticist person, there isn't a conceptual difference.

    So either put up or shut up.
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  • ADJADJ Posts: 46
    OK, I will give you one more. Dehumified air as a combatant to viruses is plainly wrong. While a virus may degrade faster in a dry laboratory environment, in practice it is better to keep a medium to high humidity to stop the spread of viruses. This is why operating rooms, ICUs, in-patient wards, etc, have to meet humidity standards for infection control purposes.

    My original post wasn't really meant to call into question any of the points. It was to address the validity of cutting and pasting some random individual's post on the internet that they tried to pass off as coming from someone at Johns Hopkins.

    Per your request, I will shut up now.
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  • tonybtonyb Posts: 32,433
    Adj....wins the gold star.

    I threw that up minus any comments to make a point. The listerine was the dead giveaway for me.

    We live in a world where nothing is as it appears. No matter the source. Everyone taking data as gospel is fooling themselves. This accredited source says xyz, another contradicts that story, another still has a different variation. Who do you believe....what do you believe. They all play to an agenda. Anyway, good catch, should have been more obvious I thought. Didn't think it would go more than 2 posts before being called out.
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    Mark, thanks for the news on John Prine.
    Hoping for recovery, but doesn't sound good :(
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