Turntable Upgrade Advice

xsmixsmi Posts: 1,505
edited March 28 in Electronics
Hi guys, trying to decide which way to go. Right now I have a Debut Carbon from about 4yrs ago. I'm very happy with it's performance. It's bone stock, so, I've been thinking about adding the Acrylic's-it platter, and speed box S. That upgrade will be just under $400. OR, I could do the Debut Esprit with built in speed box, and acrylic for $500 through Music Direct. I could also, trade my current table in to them to offset some of the cost of the new table. I have also been looking at the Fluance RT85, which is also around that $500 price range. Or, maybe another table all together staying less than $1000. This all started because I have to take the platter off of my Debut to change the speed. Any suggestions?
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Belles 22A Pre, Emotiva XPA-2 Gen 2, Marantz SA8005, Pro-Ject Debut Carbon Turntable, Pro-Ject Phono Box MM, Polk Audio SDA-SRS, AudioQuest Cable throughout. Pro-Ject RPM 5.1 (soon)

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  • chumliechumlie Posts: 8,656
    I bought a Fluance RT85. Hard to top for the money IMO, Really enjoy it.
  • jdjohnjdjohn Posts: 1,387
    Are you set on buying brand-new? If not, what city do you live near, so we can check local Craigslist?

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  • xsmixsmi Posts: 1,505
    Thanks Chumlie. @jdjohn, Toledo, OH.
    2-channel
    Belles 22A Pre, Emotiva XPA-2 Gen 2, Marantz SA8005, Pro-Ject Debut Carbon Turntable, Pro-Ject Phono Box MM, Polk Audio SDA-SRS, AudioQuest Cable throughout. Pro-Ject RPM 5.1 (soon)
  • jdjohnjdjohn Posts: 1,387
    edited March 29
    Had to expand the search up into Michigan to find some good candidates.

    This Yamaha YP-D8 looks good: https://annarbor.craigslist.org/ele/d/chelsea-yamaha-yp-d8-turntable/7089928235.html

    Here's a Technics SL-1200 MkII: https://detroit.craigslist.org/okl/ele/d/taylor-technics-sl1200-mkii/7087977130.html Would want to make sure it wasn't abused for DJ use.

    Kenwood KP-990: https://detroit.craigslist.org/okl/ele/d/west-bloomfield-kenwood-kp-990-turtable/7079187357.html

    There are also interesting options from Luxman and Michell.

    On Facebook Marketplace, found this Denon DP-59L: https://www.facebook.com/marketplace/item/501753960486839/

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  • pitdogg2pitdogg2 Posts: 16,327
    Boy if I was in the market this one sure looks nice...


    This Yamaha YP-D8 looks good: https://annarbor.craigslist.org/ele/d/chelsea-yamaha-yp-d8-turntable/7089928235.html
  • displaynamedisplayname Posts: 654
    If I was going for new under $1k I'd likely look at the Pioneer PLX 1000. Under that I'd go for the RT85. I've never been a fan of the debut line due to the length of the arm. Yes, they go a little exotic with the carbon on the arm, but high end materials won't overcome the deficiencies of an arm under 9" in my opinion.
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  • xsmixsmi Posts: 1,505
    I'm not much into DD TT. But the Denon, really does intrigue me. I'm going to look so more at the used market and see what I can find. Thanks guys.
    2-channel
    Belles 22A Pre, Emotiva XPA-2 Gen 2, Marantz SA8005, Pro-Ject Debut Carbon Turntable, Pro-Ject Phono Box MM, Polk Audio SDA-SRS, AudioQuest Cable throughout. Pro-Ject RPM 5.1 (soon)
  • mhardy6647mhardy6647 Posts: 25,394
    edited March 30
    Direct drive tts are/can be just fine.
    I was a Euro-style tt snob for a long, long time (decades) -- I got over it.
    Denon has made some fine, fine tts over the years.

    There are certainly some Euro-style tts I'd still love to have, but I can't afford 'em (i.e., cannot justify their purchase).

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  • dromundsdromunds Posts: 8,791
    Big fan of DD especially Denons
  • xsmixsmi Posts: 1,505
    This one is drool worthy.
    tratliff wrote: »
    If you like Denons check this one out that I picked up a few months back. I have not spent lots of time with it. As my VPI is difficult to not fire up. But the more time I spend with the Denon and cart the better it gets. It’s a nice setup. I picked it up with all accessories including the original box, alignment tool and even the tag that hung on the headshell. It’s in awesome shape.

    My goal was to add a DD to the system.

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    2-channel
    Belles 22A Pre, Emotiva XPA-2 Gen 2, Marantz SA8005, Pro-Ject Debut Carbon Turntable, Pro-Ject Phono Box MM, Polk Audio SDA-SRS, AudioQuest Cable throughout. Pro-Ject RPM 5.1 (soon)
  • UpstatemaxUpstatemax Posts: 2,494
    I also have the Debut Carbon, it’s a great table for the money.

    I’ve added the acrylic platter and I’ve been using a record weight. Very happy with both of those additions. With the platter, better focus and lower noise floor, also helped a lot with a static issue I had. The record weight tightened up many albums, if you have a really warped album it’s not going to help. I ended up getting a great price on one made by “Turntable Labs”.

    The speed box is next on my list of changes. Like you, I don’t want to remove the platter to change the speed.
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  • MilitoMilito Posts: 922
    Also have a Fluance RT85, very happy with it. Picture of it when I first got it checking it out to make sure there were no issues.

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  • soundfreak1soundfreak1 Posts: 2,866
    A lot of nice TT listed here but I'd deside on cartridge first. Than get a TT that will support the cart best. The cart determines sound quality more than TT. TT will support cart not the other way around.
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  • xsmixsmi Posts: 1,505
    This will be shipping out to me tomorrow. It's not quite what I thought it was, but it will do for a while. I think eventually, I HAVE to have a VPI Scout. When I think of turntables, that's, what I see. But at $3-5K, that's a couple of years out.

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    2-channel
    Belles 22A Pre, Emotiva XPA-2 Gen 2, Marantz SA8005, Pro-Ject Debut Carbon Turntable, Pro-Ject Phono Box MM, Polk Audio SDA-SRS, AudioQuest Cable throughout. Pro-Ject RPM 5.1 (soon)
  • xsmixsmi Posts: 1,505
    Oops. Prime.
    2-channel
    Belles 22A Pre, Emotiva XPA-2 Gen 2, Marantz SA8005, Pro-Ject Debut Carbon Turntable, Pro-Ject Phono Box MM, Polk Audio SDA-SRS, AudioQuest Cable throughout. Pro-Ject RPM 5.1 (soon)
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