Cambridge 851n thoughts .....

gyosagyosa Posts: 242
I’ll try asking this here ..... 😊

Toying with the idea of getting one of these ....
I have a Tidal hifi subscription and this is what it will be mainly used for ......
It’s really the only thing I listen to , that and Sirius XM - both via a WXC-50 .

Anyone here have any thoughts ?
Happy with the sound quality even though there’s no plans for it to ever support TIDAL Masters MQA ? Should that be a deal breaker ?

Are y’all happy with the sound ( tidal) only at 44.1 kHz (FLAC I presume)?

I would not be using it with a preamp - rather as a streaming preamp - with the PS audio S300 amp and Salks .....

I don’t have a need for any analog inputs , so that’s not an issue.

Most importantly, would it be a significant upgrade over my Yamaha wxc-50 streaming preamp currently in use to fulfill this role ?

Or , maybe , would I be better off running the wxc-50 , via optical , into a preamp such as the PS Audio Stellar Gain Cell preamp - roughly the same price ?

Any thoughts, anyone ? Skip ?

Thanks in advance !

Bk

Parasound A21 , Yamaha wxc-50, PS Audio 4.6 , Polk SDA 1c’s , Sony 42” - bedroom

B&K EX-442 , Yamaha wxc-50 , Boston Acoustic voyager 7’s - pool

PS Audio Stellar S300 , Cambridge Audio 851n , Yamaha wxc-50 , Salk Supercharged Songtowers
Sony XBR-A8F 65” OLED , Onkyo TX-RZ610 - den

Onkyo TX-nr609 , Polk atrium 7 , Boston acoustic sound ware (4) , Boston acoustic sub , B&W center , Sharp 65” TV - patio

Comments

  • DSkipDSkip Posts: 16,197
    I've tried to avoid this some because I haven't heard your Yamaha. I would expect the 851N to be a considerable step up. If you aren't concerned with ANY inputs and just plan on using it as a streamer with volume control, then I'd recommend looking at the Lumin D1 with Linear Tube Audio power supply that Dhaval traded in when he got the Lumin U1 Mini. It's a bit more than a new 851N costs but the Lumin is a step up in all regards. I haven't pushed the sale of the Lumin because I've been wanting to hold onto it until my meet, but if you're interested, I could be persuaded to move it quicker.

    If you are looking at refurb units then a case could be made for the 851N being a better bang for buck, much like comparing a new 851N to a new Lumin.

    The PS Audio Stellar I've heard didn't impress with their systems so while I have heard it, I also haven't gotten them in house to really be able to properly evaluate.
  • gyosagyosa Posts: 242
    Hey Skip !
    Thanks for the input ...

    So , yeah , you read my mind .....the refurbs are going for about 900 from Cambridge.....that won’t break the bank ...😊

    While the Yamaha sounds good to me , I don’t have anything to compare it to ...
    The rig is in my den , so it’s not exactly going to be a “critical” listening experience thing 😊 just thinking I may be able to get better sound for not a lot of bucks .....

    Do you think the lack of MASTERS support is an issue ?

    I do need preamp functionality, because I don’t need a dedicated preamp since it’s only for streaming .....

    Thanks
    Bk
    Parasound A21 , Yamaha wxc-50, PS Audio 4.6 , Polk SDA 1c’s , Sony 42” - bedroom

    B&K EX-442 , Yamaha wxc-50 , Boston Acoustic voyager 7’s - pool

    PS Audio Stellar S300 , Cambridge Audio 851n , Yamaha wxc-50 , Salk Supercharged Songtowers
    Sony XBR-A8F 65” OLED , Onkyo TX-RZ610 - den

    Onkyo TX-nr609 , Polk atrium 7 , Boston acoustic sound ware (4) , Boston acoustic sub , B&W center , Sharp 65” TV - patio
  • gyosagyosa Posts: 242
    edited October 1
    Just googled the Lumin ....

    I had a feeling I shouldn’t have asked you ..... ha ha 😊
    Now the wheels are turning in my head ...😅

    Wow , looks very intriguing.... and it does MQA ..... looks like a huge upgrade over what I was considering .... overkill ? ..... nah !

    what is the “linear tube audio power supply “ - upgraded power supply?

    Probably outta my league ! 😊

    Bk
    Parasound A21 , Yamaha wxc-50, PS Audio 4.6 , Polk SDA 1c’s , Sony 42” - bedroom

    B&K EX-442 , Yamaha wxc-50 , Boston Acoustic voyager 7’s - pool

    PS Audio Stellar S300 , Cambridge Audio 851n , Yamaha wxc-50 , Salk Supercharged Songtowers
    Sony XBR-A8F 65” OLED , Onkyo TX-RZ610 - den

    Onkyo TX-nr609 , Polk atrium 7 , Boston acoustic sound ware (4) , Boston acoustic sub , B&W center , Sharp 65” TV - patio
  • tophatjohnnytophatjohnny Posts: 2,659
    It just goes up from there!😀
    "if it's not fun, it's not worth it & remember folks, "It's All About The Music"!!
    *****************************
  • SIHABSIHAB Posts: 1,483
    No MQA is a plus in my book on general principle.
    I'll be interested to know how you fair so report out please :)
  • verbverb Posts: 7,957
    I took the plunge into digital with a 851N, and absolutely love it! Can't really compare, my first streamer and all, but I think you'll be happy! :)
    Basement: Polk SDA SRS, Cary SLP-05 Pre, Enlightened Audio Designs CD Transport, Northstar Designs Excelsio DAC, Silnote Morpheus Ref2 Digital Cable, Marantz SA-14 SACD, McIntosh MC300 Amp, Furman 15PFi Power Conditioner, Pangea Power Cables, Wireworld Oasis 8 RCA IC's, MIT Shotgun S3 IC's, MIT Shotgun S1 Bi-Wire speaker cables
    Office: PC, EAR Acute CD Player, EAR 834L Pre, PASS ACA Monoblocks, Denon UDR-F10 Cassette, Acoustic Technologies Classic FR Speakers, SVS SB12 Plus sub, MIT AVt2 speaker cables, IFI Purifier2, AQ Cinnamon USB cable, Groneberg Quatro Reference IC's
    Spare Room: , Antique Sound Labs Wave AV-8 Monoblocks, Tisbury Mini Passive Pre, Tjoeb 99 tube CD player (modified Marantz CD-38), Analysis Plus Oval 9's, Zu Jumpers, AudioEngine B1 Streamer, Klipsch RB-61 v2, SVS PB1000 sub, Blue Jeans RCA IC's
    Living Room: Peachtree Nova Integrated, Cambridge CXN v2 Streamer, Furman 15PFi Power Conditioner, Polk RT265 In Wall Speakers, Polk DSW Pro 660wi sub
  • gyosagyosa Posts: 242
    Hey verb !

    Curious - are there any tone control settings buried within the control app ?

    Bk
    Parasound A21 , Yamaha wxc-50, PS Audio 4.6 , Polk SDA 1c’s , Sony 42” - bedroom

    B&K EX-442 , Yamaha wxc-50 , Boston Acoustic voyager 7’s - pool

    PS Audio Stellar S300 , Cambridge Audio 851n , Yamaha wxc-50 , Salk Supercharged Songtowers
    Sony XBR-A8F 65” OLED , Onkyo TX-RZ610 - den

    Onkyo TX-nr609 , Polk atrium 7 , Boston acoustic sound ware (4) , Boston acoustic sub , B&W center , Sharp 65” TV - patio
  • verbverb Posts: 7,957
    gyosa wrote: »
    Hey verb !

    Curious - are there any tone control settings buried within the control app ?

    Bk

    None on the Cambridge Connect app, IIRC, only balance. But let me double check tonight.
    Basement: Polk SDA SRS, Cary SLP-05 Pre, Enlightened Audio Designs CD Transport, Northstar Designs Excelsio DAC, Silnote Morpheus Ref2 Digital Cable, Marantz SA-14 SACD, McIntosh MC300 Amp, Furman 15PFi Power Conditioner, Pangea Power Cables, Wireworld Oasis 8 RCA IC's, MIT Shotgun S3 IC's, MIT Shotgun S1 Bi-Wire speaker cables
    Office: PC, EAR Acute CD Player, EAR 834L Pre, PASS ACA Monoblocks, Denon UDR-F10 Cassette, Acoustic Technologies Classic FR Speakers, SVS SB12 Plus sub, MIT AVt2 speaker cables, IFI Purifier2, AQ Cinnamon USB cable, Groneberg Quatro Reference IC's
    Spare Room: , Antique Sound Labs Wave AV-8 Monoblocks, Tisbury Mini Passive Pre, Tjoeb 99 tube CD player (modified Marantz CD-38), Analysis Plus Oval 9's, Zu Jumpers, AudioEngine B1 Streamer, Klipsch RB-61 v2, SVS PB1000 sub, Blue Jeans RCA IC's
    Living Room: Peachtree Nova Integrated, Cambridge CXN v2 Streamer, Furman 15PFi Power Conditioner, Polk RT265 In Wall Speakers, Polk DSW Pro 660wi sub
  • gyosagyosa Posts: 242
    👍
    Parasound A21 , Yamaha wxc-50, PS Audio 4.6 , Polk SDA 1c’s , Sony 42” - bedroom

    B&K EX-442 , Yamaha wxc-50 , Boston Acoustic voyager 7’s - pool

    PS Audio Stellar S300 , Cambridge Audio 851n , Yamaha wxc-50 , Salk Supercharged Songtowers
    Sony XBR-A8F 65” OLED , Onkyo TX-RZ610 - den

    Onkyo TX-nr609 , Polk atrium 7 , Boston acoustic sound ware (4) , Boston acoustic sub , B&W center , Sharp 65” TV - patio
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