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I agree with @verb
I have to deal with this kind of "it's all about ME, because I'M THE CUSTOMER" attitude at my job all day, every day.
I've had people flatly tell me to my face that they didn't care about mine or someone else's personal problems and that they didn't come in there for that. Of course since they are the customer and "the customer is always right", I have to put up with that Bull$#!!.
It's really a shame that people are like that nowadays. Your personal problems are your own and you have no business bringing them into this transaction, because that is no excuse.
IS THIS REALLY THE KIND OF WORLD THAT WE HAVE CREATED???
I'm giving you my money and therefore I can say or do whatever I want to you no matter how crass, rude, nonsensical, ridiculous or even things that are borderline illegal or immoral and you just have to take it!!
I suggest everyone who looks at this thread hit the flag tab on that post where the buyer shared the e-mails and the sellers personal information immediately.
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If someone wants flawless, they should pay the extra and buy brand-new. And honestly, that's not like a 'statement piece' anyway. It probably gets shoved to the back of the rack in the shadows."This may not matter to you, but it does to me for various reasons, many of them illogical or irrational, but the vinyl hobby is not really logical or rational..." - member on Vinyl Engine
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jbail2011 so you see a scratch and he tells you he'll refund your money if you send it back to him and explains why he forgot to mention it. I think he had a very good reason for that. He being more than fair with you, but you see an opportunity to get a discount so you think. Numerous people have said you are getting a good deal, especially since you didn't have that many posts here and he took a chance on you. Most people here wouldn't have taken that chance.
Something tells me if the situation was reversed you wouldn't want to offer a refund. I may be wrong on that, but based on how you're acting I wouldn't want to find out.
I can't speak for others, but I know I won't buy or sell anything to you.
BTW Ryan very sorry to hear about your Mom, I hope she makes a full recovery soon.Yamaha RX-A2070, Musical Fidelity M6si integrated amp, Benchmark Dac1, Bluesound NODE 2i, Audiolab 6000CDT CD Transport, Parasound Zphono USB Phono Preamp, Fluance RT85, Ortofon 2M Bronze, Polk L600's, L400, L900's, RC80i's, SVS 3000 Micro, Audioquest Interconnects and Digital Cables, Nordost Silver Shadow Digital Cable, Cullen Gold and Crossover Series Power Cables, Douglas Connection Alpha 12AWG OCC Speaker Cables, Douglas Connection Alpha Analog Interconnect Cables, Douglas Connection Alpha 11 OCC Custom Power Cable, Signal Power Cable, Furman PL-8C 15 Power Conditioner, Sony 65" 900F, Sony UBP-X700, Fios, Apple TV 4K, Audioquest Chocolate HDMI Cables. -
In jbail2011's defense I will say that he purchased a set of crossovers that Trey had made for some 2b's, and, that transaction went smoothly. However, this was a bad move on his part. Hopefully, he can find a way and work his way back in to the forums good graces.
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Wow...didn't notice before that my address was posted publicly. Really appreciate it. *facepalm*
I’ll be sending you one Swedish peni5 enlarger pump c/o Austin P -
I vouch for Ryan, great seller. I mean can you even see that scratch from sitting a couple feet away. Highly doubt it.
It is what it is, I hold no ill feelings towards the seller in this instance.Just a dude doing dude-ly things
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Posting the PM exchange in open forum was a d!ck move - ESPECIALLY after a refund was offered. The fact that the buyer is unwilling to send it back for a refund, tells me that the scratch really doesn’t bother him too much... sadly, just another opportunist looking to gouge an honest seller. Sad."Conservative Libertarians love the country, progressive leftists love the government." - Andrew Wilkow
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I’ll just say three things. First, I have dealt with Ryan on many prior occasions and he’s as straight up honorable as they come as everyone on this forum that’s been around for more than a handful of posts knows; second, I wish you the best concerning your mother; third, jbail2011 should apologize for impugning Ryan’s integrity. Oh, by the way i’ve said it before and I’ll say it again: there’s a very good reason for the 100 post rule, formally enforced or informally observed.
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Did this get resolved?Lumin X1 file player, Westminster Labs interconnect cable
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The buyer hasn’t said anything here or in PMs since his post in this thread “calling me out”.
But if he wants to send it back, I am happy to refund his $75 once the item is received.
Or he can keep it. Either way works for me."Some people find it easier to be conceited rather than correct."
"Unwad those panties and have a good time man. We're all here to help each other, no matter how it might appear." DSkip -
Seems to me Ryan is offering what any stand-up seller would, send it back and the money will be refunded.
As for the buyer, posting PM's on the forum is not how to resolve an issue.Political Correctness'.........defined
"A doctrine fostered by a delusional, illogical minority and rabidly promoted by an unscrupulous mainstream media, which holds forth the proposition that it is entirely possible to pick up a t-u-r-d by the clean end."
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Ryan is so cool that he and his wife let me sleep in their garage when I'm in town.
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Ryan is so cool that he and his wife let me sleep in their garage when I'm in town.
Lucky for you he has no dog house...
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Sometimes in the summer I sleep in my backyard, the Guest room.
Lumin X1 file player, Westminster Labs interconnect cable
Sony XA-5400ES SACD; Pass XP-22 pre; X600.5 amps
Magico S5 MKII Mcast Rose speakers; SPOD spikes
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Shunyata Sigma XLR analog ICs, Sigma speaker cables
Shunyata Sigma HC (2), Sigma Analog, Sigma Digital, Z Anaconda (3) power cables
Mapleshade Samson V.3 four shelf solid maple rack, Micropoint brass footers
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Ryan who ??
All I know is....the man is a Saint. Anyone who has shared a room with Russ, and lived to tell about it, has to be tough as nails or a Deity.
as for this transaction....I see Ryan is doing what any respectable seller should. Plus the piece was priced accordingly to account for any minor scratches as most used pieces will have anyway.HT SYSTEM-
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Prayers for your mother, Ryan.
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Use "Black Paint" on the scratch ?
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This sure did go south... sorry everyone. Aparently i made a few mistakes here. My intention was to alert other members that i got an item other than it was described. I did not intend to solicite ryans info or personal business. Everyone has been awesome helping me with my speakers and i was looking forward to becoming a part of this community. Please accept my appologies. I am keeping the unit. My concern wasnt money, it was principal.Polk Audio SDA SRS 2.3 TL
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Ryan said hi to me once😂!
Buyer snuck in the back door..first no no....and the rest off the no no's follow as seen here. We all know Ryan is the real deal so let this nut job figure out what a crap move it was to air the PM's here in the thread. Ryan you Rock. Can I squat in your garage someday...like Russ did?😂😂😂"if it's not fun, it's not worth it & remember folks, "It's All About The Music"!!
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You are welcome to squat in my garage but if you "squat" like Russ did, you'll get the hose.
"Some people find it easier to be conceited rather than correct."
"Unwad those panties and have a good time man. We're all here to help each other, no matter how it might appear." DSkip -
I likes the hose.... Feels goods on the skins....
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This sure did go south... sorry everyone. Aparently i made a few mistakes here. My intention was to alert other members that i got an item other than it was described. I did not intend to solicite ryans info or personal business. Everyone has been awesome helping me with my speakers and i was looking forward to becoming a part of this community. Please accept my appologies. I am keeping the unit. My concern wasnt money, it was principal.
Thanks for the "apology." Pretty much a great bunch of folks here. In the future try reaching out to the person and working through it in private. You may be surprised at the positive outcome. You realize that being a noob you're going to take a fair ration oh **** over this. Make amends the best you can and then make friends. Everyone one here will go out of their way for good members. -
This sure did go south... sorry everyone. Aparently i made a few mistakes here. My intention was to alert other members that i got an item other than it was described. I did not intend to solicite ryans info or personal business. Everyone has been awesome helping me with my speakers and i was looking forward to becoming a part of this community. Please accept my appologies. I am keeping the unit. My concern wasnt money, it was principal.
Your intentions were quite clear...
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This sure did go south... sorry everyone. Aparently i made a few mistakes here. My intention was to alert other members that i got an item other than it was described. I did not intend to solicite ryans info or personal business. Everyone has been awesome helping me with my speakers and i was looking forward to becoming a part of this community. Please accept my appologies. I am keeping the unit. My concern wasnt money, it was principal.
Apology accepted! I can respect that. Hope you hang around, and get the feeling of community and family. Everyone here that is a regular (I consider myself fairly new here) helps each other out, offers advice, jabs and pokes a bit, all in good fun.
I remember when I first joined making some newbie mistakes. Got spanked a few times. But I learned to watch and listen. Watch how others are treated, listen to the advice given, see the encouragement, and learn from it.
Eventually, got the lay of the land. Was gun shy at first, but eventually started to reach out more. I'll be the first to admit that I have nowhere near the knowledge and experience of most on this forum. That's why I'm here. To learn.
As you can tell, we got Ryan's back. Eventually, if you hang with us, we'll have yours as well. Heck, we all go into the ditch once in while. The key is to stand up to it, admit it, and move forward.
Rock on brother!
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You can make immediate amends here if you send Ryan that Swedish Peni5 enlarger pump...
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If it comes packed in your Adantes, Joe, I accept!"Some people find it easier to be conceited rather than correct."
"Unwad those panties and have a good time man. We're all here to help each other, no matter how it might appear." DSkip -
He should have put on the lotion.You are welcome to squat in my garage but if you "squat" like Russ did, you'll get the hose."This may not matter to you, but it does to me for various reasons, many of them illogical or irrational, but the vinyl hobby is not really logical or rational..." - member on Vinyl Engine
"Sometimes I do what I want to do. The rest of the time, I do what I have to." - Cicero, in Gladiator
Regarding collectibles: "It's not who gets it. It's who gets stuck with it." - Jimmy Fallon -
If it comes packed in your Adantes, Joe, I accept!
That’s borderline disgusting Ryan.
