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  • maxwardmaxward Posts: 548
    And perhaps overkill.
    Thorens TD-160C; Sumiko Talisman S, retipped by Soundsmith; Jolida JD9; Marantz CD-53; North Star Intenso;
    Joule-Electra LA-100; Balanced Power Technology AC conditioner;
    Odyssey Khartago monos (with most factory upgrades); Magnepan MG 3.6R
  • DaveHoDaveHo Posts: 2,617
    maxward wrote: »
    And perhaps overkill.

    Blasphemy! No such thing.
  • rpf65rpf65 Posts: 2,127
    Joey_V wrote: »
    WLDock wrote: »
    Such a lil' cutey...and the subs are lil' cuties as well given their ability to hit a maximum of 121 dB at 25 Hz @ 1 foot. They are heavy but not overly large in size.

    150 lb each... 300 lbs of sub-goodness.

    Gothams would've been nicer but it was too much of a herculean effort...

    :(

    Slacker
  • voltzvoltz Posts: 5,423
    edited June 2019
    Joey_V wrote: »
    Finally got a pic!
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    ROCK ON! Our newest Diva B)
    2 ch- Polk CRS+ * Vincent SA-31MK Preamp * Vincent Sp-331 Amp * Marantz SA8005 SACD * Project Xperience Classic TT * Sumiko Blue Point #2 MC cartridge

    HT - Polk 703's * NAD T-758 * Adcom 5503 * Oppo 103 * Samsung 60" series 8 LCD
  • Tony MTony M Posts: 9,023
    Love her slippers! ;)
    Most people just listen to music and watch movies. I EXPERIENCE them.
  • WLDockWLDock Posts: 2,744
    edited June 2019
    Joey_V wrote: »
    WLDock wrote: »
    Such a lil' cutey...and the subs are lil' cuties as well given their ability to hit a maximum of 121 dB at 25 Hz @ 1 foot. They are heavy but not overly large in size.

    150 lb each... 300 lbs of sub-goodness.

    Gothams would've been nicer but it was too much of a herculean effort...

    :(
    I don't think you'll miss anything. The Fathoms will mate up with any 2 ch system out there and add something and not call attention to their presence ...unless you want them to!

    Be bass happy!
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    FAMILY ROOM
    HDTV - Sharp AQUOS LC-70LE600U 70" | AVR/Streamer - Onkyo TX-NR3008 | Amp - Parasound HCA-1203A
    Blu-Ray/Media/Gaming - Sony PS3-320GB / Microsoft Xbox One | Broadcast - Xfinity X1 Platform
    Front Spkrs - Coming...DIY Statement II | Center Spkrs - Coming...DIY Statement II | Rear Spkrs - Artison Portrait LRS
    Sub - DIY Stereo Integrity HT 15 | Sub Amp - Dayton Audio SA1000
    Wire - Audioquest Type 4, BJC Belden 5000 | HDMI - BJC Belden | Power Cables - Pangea | Surge - Monster
  • joecoulsonjoecoulson Posts: 4,258
    Sorry to derail slightly but:
    These remind me of when I used to dabble in car audio, JL was my sub of choice. The W7’s (which is what those ^ drivers are based upon) came out after my time, but the W6’s I had were just untouchable at that time. I had many different setups but the two 15’s in an Explorer were show stoppers.
    Good times.
    Auralic Vega G1/Rega TT/Denon SACD - Parasound P6 - PS Audio M700x2 - Elac Adante AF-61 - AQ Niagara 5000 - SVS SB16u
  • mikeyb128mikeyb128 Posts: 2,887
    I have a lowly E series JL in my 2 channel system. I was told by JL when I had a warranty issue, that the E series is a fathom without DARO. This sub is absolutely incredible for its size, huge clean power, and fills my basement with wall crushing bass. I have this sub on maybe a third volume. I can only imagine what 2 fathoms will be like. I would run speakers full range, and add these in to see what you can get. Should be incredible! I hope you’re room is on a cement slab. Mine is, and I still chase down rattles in my fully treated room.
    2 channel:
    Bryston 4B3, Bryston BDA3, Cary SLP05, Shanling CDT1000SE with parts conneXion level 2 mods, Nottingham analogue ace space 294, soundsmith Carmen MKii, Zu DL103 MKii, Ortofon MC 20 MKii, Dynavector XX2 MKii, Rogue Audio Ares, Core power technologies balanced power conditioner, Akiko Corelli power conditioner with Akiko Audio HQ power cable, Nordost heimdall 2, Frey 2, interconnects, speaker and power cables, Focal Electra 1028 BE 2, Auralic Aries Femto, Black diamond racing cones, ingress audio level 1 roller blocks, JL Audio E110 with Auralic subdude, Primacoustics room treatments.
    Theater:
    Focal Aria 926,905,CC900, SVS PB ultra x2. Pioneer Elite SC85, Oppo BDP93, Panamax M5400PM, Minix neox6, Nordost Blue heaven LS power cables.

  • Joey_VJoey_V Posts: 7,322
    edited June 2019
    Good points Mikey

    I was just going for overkill and quench any upgraditis desires by going Gotham x2

    The build quality of a Gotham is insane. 2” of drilled fiberglass. Dual 13.5” woofers. Nearly infinite power amps. 360lb unboxed.

    Wow

    Talk about end game subs

    But in the end, some rationale prevailed
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    Joey's Gear:
    Current Gear:
    Torus RM15 -> Emm Labs TSDx/Bluesound Node 2 -> Emm Labs DAC2x -> ??? -> Boulder 2060 stereo amp (w/ Audioquest WEL Signature) -> new speakers + JL Audio F113v2 x2
    Rotel RA1592 Super Integrated -> Sonus Faber Olympica 3
    Oppo 105D -> Rotel RC1570 preamp -> Rotel RB1582 amp -> Focal Kanta 2


    Main speakers system evolution over the years:
    Klipsch Promedia 4.1 -> Axiom M22ti -> Sonus Faber Concertino -> Sonus Faber Concerto -> Polk LSi7 -> Polk LSi9 -> Martin Logan Mosaic -> AV123 Onix Ref 1 -> Martin Logan Vantage -> AV123 Strata Mini -> Martin Logan Summit -> Sonus Faber Cremona Auditor -> BW 802D2 -> Sonus Faber Stradivari -> Rockport Avior -> BW 802D3 -> BW 800D3 -> ???

    Old Gear:
    Speakers:
    BW PM1 (3.5/5), CM10s2 (3.75/5), BW800D3 (5/5), Rockport Aviors (5/5), Sonus Faber Stradivari (5/5), BW 802D2 (4.5/5), Martin Logan Summits (4.25/5), Martin Logan Vantage (4/5), Sonus Faber Cremona Auditor (3.75/5), AV123 Strata Mini (3.5/5), ML Mosaic (3.25/5), Onix Ref1 (3/5), Sonus Faber Concerto (2.75/5), SF Concertino (2.5/5), Axiom M22ti (2/5), Polk LSi9 (3/5), LSi7 (2.9/5)
    Source:
    Squeezebox 3 -> PS Audio Digital Link III -> Cary 306/200 CDP -> Cary 306 SACD -> EMM LABS DAC2X/TSDX
    Preamplification:
    Rotel RC1070 -> Rogue Perseus -> Cary SLP98 -> Cary SLP98F1 -> Cary SLP05 (sold and then repurchased) -> ARC 5se -> ???
    Amplification:
    HK AVR330 -> Rotel RB1070 -> Rotel RB1090 -> Plinius SA102 -> Cary 211FE -> Classe M600 -> Boulder 2060
    Subwoofer:
    Infinity Entra2 -> SVS 25-31PCi -> SVS 25-31PC+ -> Dual JL Audio F113v2
  • VR3VR3 Posts: 23,789
    sweet subs! What do you have them crossed over at?
    - Not Tom

    "No, that's silly talk. Dude, you can't possibly be this audio dumb so quit the act." - Doro
  • WLDockWLDock Posts: 2,744
    edited June 2019
    Joey_V wrote: »
    Good points Mikey

    I was just going for overkill and quench any upgraditis desires by going Gotham x2

    The build quality of a Gotham is insane. 2” of drilled fiberglass. Dual 13.5” woofers. Nearly infinite power amps. 360lb unboxed.

    Wow

    Talk about end game subs

    But in the end, some rationale prevailed
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    OMG! You have it bad Joey. You have two Fathom in the house and still talking about Gothams? Of all the BIG dollas systems you've heard including your own, could any of them outpace two Fathoms? How loud do you listen? How low are you trying to go? All the reviews, feedback, and test indicate that the Fathom F113 is a reference end game sub....even though there are more expensive subs out there.

    At what point does it end in terms of size and cost? I'll link this just to keep perspective: a list of main speakers from $80K to $1.2M! https://www.octaneseating.com/most-expensive-home-theater-speakers

    The Gotham is BIG, BAD, and EXPENSIVE but there are BIGGER more expensive subs out there.

    Magico Q-Sub - $36,000
    -Dual 18"
    - 5000 watts
    - 570 lbs
    -Claimed 136-dB sound-pressure level with less than 1 percent total harmonic distortion at 20 hertz and plays down to 15Hz!

    Wilson Audio Thor's Hammer - $21,000
    Woofer:Two - 15 inch Dual Spider (38.1 cm) Dual-Ported
    Frequency Response:10 Hz - 300 Hz Room Average Response
    Height w/o spikes – 59 inches (149.86 cm)
    Width – 20 inches (50.80 cm)
    Depth – 25 1/8 inches (66.4 cm)
    Weight: 411 lbs. (186.43 kg)
    Total System Shipping Weight (approx.):545 lbs. (247.2 kg)

    Wilson Audio Subsonic - $37,500
    Woofer:(3) x12 inch inches, dual spider
    Frequency Response:10 to 150 Hz. +0, – 3dB
    Height:65 1/16 inches (165.25 cm) with spike
    Depth:27 3/16 inches (69.09 cm)
    Width:18 1/16 inches (45.87 cm)
    Weight 612 lbs (277.60 Kg)

    Mind you that the cost of some of these subs are approaching the $20K-$65K average cost to have a dedicated room added in.

    If one really wants to chase end game bass that has effortless output, no box / enclosure limitations, and organ music output down to single digits...
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    ...then a custom room and infinite baffle subs are a way to get there.

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    Again, I would think the two Fathoms are Reference bass machines for 99% of the two channel audio systems out there. That next level that the 1% go after is crazy!
    FAMILY ROOM
    HDTV - Sharp AQUOS LC-70LE600U 70" | AVR/Streamer - Onkyo TX-NR3008 | Amp - Parasound HCA-1203A
    Blu-Ray/Media/Gaming - Sony PS3-320GB / Microsoft Xbox One | Broadcast - Xfinity X1 Platform
    Front Spkrs - Coming...DIY Statement II | Center Spkrs - Coming...DIY Statement II | Rear Spkrs - Artison Portrait LRS
    Sub - DIY Stereo Integrity HT 15 | Sub Amp - Dayton Audio SA1000
    Wire - Audioquest Type 4, BJC Belden 5000 | HDMI - BJC Belden | Power Cables - Pangea | Surge - Monster
  • Joey_VJoey_V Posts: 7,322
    You’re right Walt

    I’m good where I sit with two Fathoms

    People just like to dream haha but I’m sure the output would be room limited in this case. I do wonder if the bass would be cleaner with that massive 2” fiberglass asymmetric non parallel walled Gotham enclosure though... compared to the standard box of the Fathoms... that’s actually what I wonder more than the output.

    Oh and those guys who go for those other super subs.... they ain’t 1%.
    Joey's Gear:
    Current Gear:
    Torus RM15 -> Emm Labs TSDx/Bluesound Node 2 -> Emm Labs DAC2x -> ??? -> Boulder 2060 stereo amp (w/ Audioquest WEL Signature) -> new speakers + JL Audio F113v2 x2
    Rotel RA1592 Super Integrated -> Sonus Faber Olympica 3
    Oppo 105D -> Rotel RC1570 preamp -> Rotel RB1582 amp -> Focal Kanta 2


    Main speakers system evolution over the years:
    Klipsch Promedia 4.1 -> Axiom M22ti -> Sonus Faber Concertino -> Sonus Faber Concerto -> Polk LSi7 -> Polk LSi9 -> Martin Logan Mosaic -> AV123 Onix Ref 1 -> Martin Logan Vantage -> AV123 Strata Mini -> Martin Logan Summit -> Sonus Faber Cremona Auditor -> BW 802D2 -> Sonus Faber Stradivari -> Rockport Avior -> BW 802D3 -> BW 800D3 -> ???

    Old Gear:
    Speakers:
    BW PM1 (3.5/5), CM10s2 (3.75/5), BW800D3 (5/5), Rockport Aviors (5/5), Sonus Faber Stradivari (5/5), BW 802D2 (4.5/5), Martin Logan Summits (4.25/5), Martin Logan Vantage (4/5), Sonus Faber Cremona Auditor (3.75/5), AV123 Strata Mini (3.5/5), ML Mosaic (3.25/5), Onix Ref1 (3/5), Sonus Faber Concerto (2.75/5), SF Concertino (2.5/5), Axiom M22ti (2/5), Polk LSi9 (3/5), LSi7 (2.9/5)
    Source:
    Squeezebox 3 -> PS Audio Digital Link III -> Cary 306/200 CDP -> Cary 306 SACD -> EMM LABS DAC2X/TSDX
    Preamplification:
    Rotel RC1070 -> Rogue Perseus -> Cary SLP98 -> Cary SLP98F1 -> Cary SLP05 (sold and then repurchased) -> ARC 5se -> ???
    Amplification:
    HK AVR330 -> Rotel RB1070 -> Rotel RB1090 -> Plinius SA102 -> Cary 211FE -> Classe M600 -> Boulder 2060
    Subwoofer:
    Infinity Entra2 -> SVS 25-31PCi -> SVS 25-31PC+ -> Dual JL Audio F113v2
  • WLDockWLDock Posts: 2,744
    edited June 2019
    Maybe not income wise but very few have $10K-$50K tied up in sub bass. Of all of the 2 ch audiophiles out there, there are a small minority with Gotham like bass systems. I'm sure someone at JL Audio has the lifetime sales numbers. I would bet on average, HT guys have more tied up in subbass then 2 ch guys. There are some true bonafide card carrying DIY bass nuts in the HT world!

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    LL

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    Sixteen 18" subs - 8 in Front
    LL 8 in backLL

    Twelve 24" subs
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    Post edited by WLDock on
    FAMILY ROOM
    HDTV - Sharp AQUOS LC-70LE600U 70" | AVR/Streamer - Onkyo TX-NR3008 | Amp - Parasound HCA-1203A
    Blu-Ray/Media/Gaming - Sony PS3-320GB / Microsoft Xbox One | Broadcast - Xfinity X1 Platform
    Front Spkrs - Coming...DIY Statement II | Center Spkrs - Coming...DIY Statement II | Rear Spkrs - Artison Portrait LRS
    Sub - DIY Stereo Integrity HT 15 | Sub Amp - Dayton Audio SA1000
    Wire - Audioquest Type 4, BJC Belden 5000 | HDMI - BJC Belden | Power Cables - Pangea | Surge - Monster
  • minerminer Posts: 1,305
    Joey_V wrote: »
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    I have stacked the boxes...


    Your sub boxes have isolators - they are that good!
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  • Joey_VJoey_V Posts: 7,322
    miner wrote: »
    Joey_V wrote: »
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    I have stacked the boxes...


    Your sub boxes have isolators - they are that good!
    My kids like to think they are from their toy box aka ring stacker donuts


    Joey's Gear:
    Current Gear:
    Torus RM15 -> Emm Labs TSDx/Bluesound Node 2 -> Emm Labs DAC2x -> ??? -> Boulder 2060 stereo amp (w/ Audioquest WEL Signature) -> new speakers + JL Audio F113v2 x2
    Rotel RA1592 Super Integrated -> Sonus Faber Olympica 3
    Oppo 105D -> Rotel RC1570 preamp -> Rotel RB1582 amp -> Focal Kanta 2


    Main speakers system evolution over the years:
    Klipsch Promedia 4.1 -> Axiom M22ti -> Sonus Faber Concertino -> Sonus Faber Concerto -> Polk LSi7 -> Polk LSi9 -> Martin Logan Mosaic -> AV123 Onix Ref 1 -> Martin Logan Vantage -> AV123 Strata Mini -> Martin Logan Summit -> Sonus Faber Cremona Auditor -> BW 802D2 -> Sonus Faber Stradivari -> Rockport Avior -> BW 802D3 -> BW 800D3 -> ???

    Old Gear:
    Speakers:
    BW PM1 (3.5/5), CM10s2 (3.75/5), BW800D3 (5/5), Rockport Aviors (5/5), Sonus Faber Stradivari (5/5), BW 802D2 (4.5/5), Martin Logan Summits (4.25/5), Martin Logan Vantage (4/5), Sonus Faber Cremona Auditor (3.75/5), AV123 Strata Mini (3.5/5), ML Mosaic (3.25/5), Onix Ref1 (3/5), Sonus Faber Concerto (2.75/5), SF Concertino (2.5/5), Axiom M22ti (2/5), Polk LSi9 (3/5), LSi7 (2.9/5)
    Source:
    Squeezebox 3 -> PS Audio Digital Link III -> Cary 306/200 CDP -> Cary 306 SACD -> EMM LABS DAC2X/TSDX
    Preamplification:
    Rotel RC1070 -> Rogue Perseus -> Cary SLP98 -> Cary SLP98F1 -> Cary SLP05 (sold and then repurchased) -> ARC 5se -> ???
    Amplification:
    HK AVR330 -> Rotel RB1070 -> Rotel RB1090 -> Plinius SA102 -> Cary 211FE -> Classe M600 -> Boulder 2060
    Subwoofer:
    Infinity Entra2 -> SVS 25-31PCi -> SVS 25-31PC+ -> Dual JL Audio F113v2
  • Joey_VJoey_V Posts: 7,322
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    Joey's Gear:
    Current Gear:
    Torus RM15 -> Emm Labs TSDx/Bluesound Node 2 -> Emm Labs DAC2x -> ??? -> Boulder 2060 stereo amp (w/ Audioquest WEL Signature) -> new speakers + JL Audio F113v2 x2
    Rotel RA1592 Super Integrated -> Sonus Faber Olympica 3
    Oppo 105D -> Rotel RC1570 preamp -> Rotel RB1582 amp -> Focal Kanta 2


    Main speakers system evolution over the years:
    Klipsch Promedia 4.1 -> Axiom M22ti -> Sonus Faber Concertino -> Sonus Faber Concerto -> Polk LSi7 -> Polk LSi9 -> Martin Logan Mosaic -> AV123 Onix Ref 1 -> Martin Logan Vantage -> AV123 Strata Mini -> Martin Logan Summit -> Sonus Faber Cremona Auditor -> BW 802D2 -> Sonus Faber Stradivari -> Rockport Avior -> BW 802D3 -> BW 800D3 -> ???

    Old Gear:
    Speakers:
    BW PM1 (3.5/5), CM10s2 (3.75/5), BW800D3 (5/5), Rockport Aviors (5/5), Sonus Faber Stradivari (5/5), BW 802D2 (4.5/5), Martin Logan Summits (4.25/5), Martin Logan Vantage (4/5), Sonus Faber Cremona Auditor (3.75/5), AV123 Strata Mini (3.5/5), ML Mosaic (3.25/5), Onix Ref1 (3/5), Sonus Faber Concerto (2.75/5), SF Concertino (2.5/5), Axiom M22ti (2/5), Polk LSi9 (3/5), LSi7 (2.9/5)
    Source:
    Squeezebox 3 -> PS Audio Digital Link III -> Cary 306/200 CDP -> Cary 306 SACD -> EMM LABS DAC2X/TSDX
    Preamplification:
    Rotel RC1070 -> Rogue Perseus -> Cary SLP98 -> Cary SLP98F1 -> Cary SLP05 (sold and then repurchased) -> ARC 5se -> ???
    Amplification:
    HK AVR330 -> Rotel RB1070 -> Rotel RB1090 -> Plinius SA102 -> Cary 211FE -> Classe M600 -> Boulder 2060
    Subwoofer:
    Infinity Entra2 -> SVS 25-31PCi -> SVS 25-31PC+ -> Dual JL Audio F113v2
  • ZLTFULZLTFUL Posts: 5,359
    Those are so CUTE!

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    I kid! Nice score Joey. I am a BIG JL Audio fan and the Fathoms are right up there in my top 5 subs wish list for 2 channel listening.
    "Some people find it easier to be conceited rather than correct."

    "Unwad those panties and have a good time man. We're all here to help each other, no matter how it might appear." DSkip
  • Joey_VJoey_V Posts: 7,322
    ZLTFUL wrote: »
    Those are so CUTE!

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    I kid! Nice score Joey. I am a BIG JL Audio fan and the Fathoms are right up there in my top 5 subs wish list for 2 channel listening.

    Now I just need 4 Gothams to keep up w u!!
    Joey's Gear:
    Current Gear:
    Torus RM15 -> Emm Labs TSDx/Bluesound Node 2 -> Emm Labs DAC2x -> ??? -> Boulder 2060 stereo amp (w/ Audioquest WEL Signature) -> new speakers + JL Audio F113v2 x2
    Rotel RA1592 Super Integrated -> Sonus Faber Olympica 3
    Oppo 105D -> Rotel RC1570 preamp -> Rotel RB1582 amp -> Focal Kanta 2


    Main speakers system evolution over the years:
    Klipsch Promedia 4.1 -> Axiom M22ti -> Sonus Faber Concertino -> Sonus Faber Concerto -> Polk LSi7 -> Polk LSi9 -> Martin Logan Mosaic -> AV123 Onix Ref 1 -> Martin Logan Vantage -> AV123 Strata Mini -> Martin Logan Summit -> Sonus Faber Cremona Auditor -> BW 802D2 -> Sonus Faber Stradivari -> Rockport Avior -> BW 802D3 -> BW 800D3 -> ???

    Old Gear:
    Speakers:
    BW PM1 (3.5/5), CM10s2 (3.75/5), BW800D3 (5/5), Rockport Aviors (5/5), Sonus Faber Stradivari (5/5), BW 802D2 (4.5/5), Martin Logan Summits (4.25/5), Martin Logan Vantage (4/5), Sonus Faber Cremona Auditor (3.75/5), AV123 Strata Mini (3.5/5), ML Mosaic (3.25/5), Onix Ref1 (3/5), Sonus Faber Concerto (2.75/5), SF Concertino (2.5/5), Axiom M22ti (2/5), Polk LSi9 (3/5), LSi7 (2.9/5)
    Source:
    Squeezebox 3 -> PS Audio Digital Link III -> Cary 306/200 CDP -> Cary 306 SACD -> EMM LABS DAC2X/TSDX
    Preamplification:
    Rotel RC1070 -> Rogue Perseus -> Cary SLP98 -> Cary SLP98F1 -> Cary SLP05 (sold and then repurchased) -> ARC 5se -> ???
    Amplification:
    HK AVR330 -> Rotel RB1070 -> Rotel RB1090 -> Plinius SA102 -> Cary 211FE -> Classe M600 -> Boulder 2060
    Subwoofer:
    Infinity Entra2 -> SVS 25-31PCi -> SVS 25-31PC+ -> Dual JL Audio F113v2
  • 98Badger98Badger Posts: 307
    Those TC sounds in Doc’s 2nd pic are awesome. I know what a pair sounds like. Can only imagine what 8 can do. They are exceptional for music as well as HT
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