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Joey_V
Joey_V Posts: 8,518
edited June 2019 in 2 Channel Audio
The subs are here!

Picked up from Austin, TX.... headed home now.

JL Audio Fathom 113v2 time two.

It was a deal that I stumbled onto last week, decided on it last night, wife was a little surprised with the surprise day trip haha

My sub-partner!
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The subs safe in the rear...
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  • VR3
    VR3 Posts: 28,020
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    Congrats
    - Not Tom ::::::: Any system can play Diana Krall. Only the best can play Limp Bizkit.
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  • jumpindick
    jumpindick Posts: 428
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    Congratulation!!
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  • maxward
    maxward Posts: 1,513
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    Another great reason (or two) to own a minivan. I’ll be looking forward to your comments.
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  • Joey_V
    Joey_V Posts: 8,518
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    maxward wrote: »
    Another great reason (or two) to own a minivan. I’ll be looking forward to your comments.

    Hahaha

    That’s why I can’t get rid of the minivan

    This time, my dad drove me in his Expedition though
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  • erniejade
    erniejade Posts: 6,313
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    maxward wrote: »
    Another great reason (or two) to own a minivan. I’ll be looking forward to your comments.

    On our 3rd Toyota Sienna here.

    Congrats. They make a darn good sub!
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  • joecoulson
    joecoulson Posts: 4,943
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    nice Joey
    can't wait to see them all setup
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  • Joey_V
    Joey_V Posts: 8,518
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    joecoulson wrote: »
    nice Joey
    can't wait to see them all setup

    Because I didn’t get the Gotham, my wife knew the Fathoms were smaller and knew I might sneak them into the other smaller systems.

    So last night she made it clear that the living room would not see a subwoofer...

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  • nooshinjohn
    nooshinjohn Posts: 25,092
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    I think I would be investing in moats, alligators and guard towers if I were you. You have only a few years left before the boys start knocking on the door on a Friday night... firearms training may come in handy as well. Nothing like cleaning a weapon when the doorbell rings. :p

    And congrats on the subs btw...
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  • kharp1
    kharp1 Posts: 3,453
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    She's such a cutie, Joey.
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  • Milito
    Milito Posts: 1,909
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    Congrats.

    He can just put a NRA decal by his front door when she starts dating if he doesn't want to buy a gun. He can also have a gun cleaning kit in full view.
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  • displayname
    displayname Posts: 1,129
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    Very cool! Looks like you're in for an exciting few days of setting up and getting things dialed in.
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  • Upstatemax
    Upstatemax Posts: 2,623
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    Congrats, Joey!

    Can’t wait to hear what you think of them.

    As for the having a daughter situation, I openly let my daughters think I’m out of my mind.

    The more they think I’m unstable, the better!
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  • DaveHo
    DaveHo Posts: 3,480
    edited June 2019
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    Congrats! That's a big drink. How many pee breaks did the trip require. :p
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  • pitdogg2
    pitdogg2 Posts: 24,553
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    Milito wrote: »
    Congrats.

    He can just put a NRA decal by his front door when she starts dating if he doesn't want to buy a gun. He can also have a gun cleaning kit in full view.

    Bad idea. Think about it.
    For one he lives in Texas. He is more than likely in the minority as most Texans have firearms so no need for the sticker.

    I removed all my NRA stickers from my vehicle and home as it advertises that more than likely there is a firearm in the vehicle or house. Around my parts thieves used them to identify places to rob.
    Keep them guessing I say.
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  • joecoulson
    joecoulson Posts: 4,943
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    Don't want to derail entirely but have to comment, I have two girls and have told my eldest (13) that when she wants to date, the boy has to provide all of their social media passwords for me to peruse while on a date.
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  • Milito
    Milito Posts: 1,909
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    pitdogg2 wrote: »
    Milito wrote: »
    Congrats.

    He can just put a NRA decal by his front door when she starts dating if he doesn't want to buy a gun. He can also have a gun cleaning kit in full view.

    Bad idea. Think about it.
    For one he lives in Texas. He is more than likely in the minority as most Texans have firearms so no need for the sticker.

    I removed all my NRA stickers from my vehicle and home as it advertises that more than likely there is a firearm in the vehicle or house. Around my parts thieves used them to identify places to rob.
    Keep them guessing I say.

    I was kidding about the NRA sticker. BTW I live in Texas, have a gun in the house and have my CCL.

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  • kharp1
    kharp1 Posts: 3,453
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    I'm waiting for the unboxed photos. Was looking at one of these on USAM. I'm pretty sure one will end up in my house eventually. Incredible amount of travel on their surrounds.
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  • sgmsmg
    sgmsmg Posts: 542
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    Now you need this:
    https://www.audiogon.com/listings/lis9ej7j-template-template-mint-customer-trade-in-speaker
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  • tratliff
    tratliff Posts: 1,662
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    Those should be awesome Joey. What did you decide on the crossover?
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  • Joey_V
    Joey_V Posts: 8,518
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    Todd

    Need the JL CR1 crossover for sure.
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  • WLDock
    WLDock Posts: 3,073
    edited June 2019
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    Congrats!

    Were these the ones on CL? https://austin.craigslist.org/ele/d/austin-jlaudio-f113-v2-subs-new/6879990440.html

    Did you see this post? https://www.whatsbestforum.com/threads/the-jl-audio-cr-1-analog-vs-tact-digital-crossover.19361/

    Once you get it all setup you'll have to play some low organ music... Bach -Toccata & Fugue in D-minor, Camille Saint-Saens Symphony, 1812 Overture, Dubstep, Bela Fleck -'Flight of the Cosmic Hippo', etc. and tell us about it.
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  • Joey_V
    Joey_V Posts: 8,518
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    Walt!

    Thx for the info re the tact vs CR1

    The subs are the same as those listed but mine are 1 year old
    WLDock wrote: »
    Congrats!

    Were these the ones on CL? https://austin.craigslist.org/ele/d/austin-jlaudio-f113-v2-subs-new/6879990440.html

    Did you see this post? https://www.whatsbestforum.com/threads/the-jl-audio-cr-1-analog-vs-tact-digital-crossover.19361/

    Once you get it all setup you'll have to play some low organ music... Bach -Toccata & Fugue in D-minor, Camille Saint-Saens Symphony, 1812 Overture, Dubstep, Bela Fleck -'Flight of the Cosmic Hippo', etc. and tell us about it.

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  • txcoastal1
    txcoastal1 Posts: 13,132
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    CR1 is antiquated DSP is the way to go. DSpeakers also has options
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  • Joey_V
    Joey_V Posts: 8,518
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    CR1 is a purely analog circuit that has high and low pass filters. I did not want to introduce an eq to the whole system.

    What would you recommend?

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  • txcoastal1
    txcoastal1 Posts: 13,132
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    I’ve had discussions with Walter (underwood Hifi) and Rythmic about DSpeaker products

    There’s also products like Deqx

    2-channel: Modwright KWI-200 Integrated, Dynaudio C1-II Signatures
    Desktop rig: LSi7, Polk 110sub, Dayens Ampino amp, W4S DAC/pre, Sonos, JRiver
    Gear on standby: Melody 101 tube pre, Unison Research Simply Italy Integrated
    Gone to new homes: (Matt Polk's)Threshold Stasis SA12e monoblocks, Pass XA30.5 amp, Usher MD2 speakers, Dynaudio C4 platinum speakers, Modwright LS100 (voltz), Simaudio 780D DAC

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  • WLDock
    WLDock Posts: 3,073
    edited June 2019
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    Joey_V wrote: »
    CR1 is a purely analog circuit that has high and low pass filters. I did not want to introduce an eq to the whole system.
    What would you recommend?
    I've wondered why more with high resolution systems like yours and resources don't compare digital to the analog to see how much of a different really can be heard. I think in many cases it might take some time and tweaking to really know....such as the case in the link I posted above.

    Did you see this post? https://www.whatsbestforum.com/threads/the-jl-audio-cr-1-analog-vs-tact-digital-crossover.19361/

    Also, these guys are offering the CR-1 at 20% off: https://austin.craigslist.org/ele/d/austin-jlaudio-f113-v2-subs-new/6879990440.html

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  • Joey_V
    Joey_V Posts: 8,518
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    I see that CR1 At 2400, I believe the market price is around 1800.

    I would like to believe that my trouble is bass in terms of requiring assist that is not handled by room treatments.

    Below 80hz is difficult to flatten in room without eq.

    My plan was to introduce the CR1 to do a high pass above 50hz to the speakers and then low pass at 60hz down to the subs. Then use the digital room correct in the subs to flatten their responses.

    That’s what I was going to use the CR1 for.
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  • txcoastal1
    txcoastal1 Posts: 13,132
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    Here is one of the responses...was was looking at doing the same as you with the CR-1 or the Pass crossover

    Ron,

    I would hold on the CR-1 until you try the subwoofers with the onboard controls. The C4s play down to 30Hz but I would crossover around 50Hz to take some stress out of the speakers. In that case you can send full range signal to the speakers and full range signal to the subwoofers and set the low pass filter on the subwoofer at 50Hz/24 and the crossover on the subwoofer at 50Hz as well in order to get 50Hz with 24dB/octave slope. Then set proper delay/phase on the subwoofers. If you like the results, which I know you are gonna love it, you can save $3000 on the CR-1. Another option a little bit cheaper but IMHO more effective than the CR-1 is the miniDSP DDRC-88A which come with Dirac Live room correction system and can handle up to 8 channels. In your case you can have the two C4s + the pair of subwoofers and set delay/phase, levels and EQ for each one independently. The miniDSP DDCR-88A is $1000.

    https://www.minidsp.com/products/dirac-series/ddrc-88a

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    Gone to new homes: (Matt Polk's)Threshold Stasis SA12e monoblocks, Pass XA30.5 amp, Usher MD2 speakers, Dynaudio C4 platinum speakers, Modwright LS100 (voltz), Simaudio 780D DAC

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  • voltz
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    kharp1 wrote: »
    She's such a cutie, Joey.

    Agree, you a lucky man as you know! have fun figuring out your sub's! keep us posted.
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  • Joey_V
    Joey_V Posts: 8,518
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    voltz wrote: »
    kharp1 wrote: »
    She's such a cutie, Joey.

    Agree, you a lucky man as you know!

    Thx Voltz! I appreciate the comments re my daughter.

    She says Dad and her are best friends.

    (so far)
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