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alucididea
alucididea Posts: 113
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So I went digital with my music collection a few years ago. Unfortunately I chose poorly with Apple Music. Over the last year I’ve acquired a stereo worthy of a better source: NAD M12, M22, and a pair of 707s.

Basically, I’m starting over building my music collection from scratch. If you were in my shoes, what would you do? In what medium/formats would you invest?
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  • rooftop59
    rooftop59 Posts: 7,976
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    What is your source and DAC? Hard to beat tidal lossless for $20 a month. Or just buy used cds and rip them to lossless flax using dbpoweramp or mediamonkey
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  • alucididea
    alucididea Posts: 113
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    rooftop59 wrote: »
    What is your source and DAC? Hard to beat tidal lossless for $20 a month.
    I have an NAD M12 DAC/PRE.

    As for source, I’m just using an Airport Express with Airplay 2 from my phone. I’m debating what kind of source I want to get. Mulling over the Bluesound Node 2i or the BluOS module for the M12 for Tidal Hifi/MQA.

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  • GospelTruth
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    I back in the early 2000s I ripped all my music to 320kbps mp3. I've since moved to the FLAC format for all my music. It's lossless but compressed. You could also do WAV as it's lossless, but it's also uncompressed and will have bigger files.

    Some here might say WAV is better than FLAC, but I honestly can't tell the difference and they are both lossless and should have the same resulting output. Either way, I would go lossless and stick to a format that is not proprietary to a particular company.

    I typically just buy the CD, rip it, and put the CD in a box somewhere and listen to the ripped FLAC version from our media server. I have never purchased and will not purchase from the likes of Apple. I might purchase from HDtracks someday (as I believe you can get the flac version of the songs), but at present, I would still rather have the physical media as a backup.
    Speakers
    Energy RC-70 Mains, Energy RC-LRC Center, Energy RC-R (x4) Rear Channels, Energy RC-R (x2) Front Effects
    Polk 5jr+
    Polk SDA 2B
    Polk SDS 3.1TL
    Equipment
    Panamax 5510 Re-generator Power Conditioner
    Yamaha RX-V3800 Receiver
    Digital Sources: Sony CDP-X339ES CD Player, HHB CDR830 BurnIt Professional CD Recorder, Sony PS3, Oppo DV-983H DVD Player
    Analog Sources: Sony TC-K890ES Cassette, Nakamichi DR-1 Cassette, Technics SL-7 Turntable
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  • alucididea
    alucididea Posts: 113
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    GospelTruth wrote: »
    I back in the early 2000s I ripped all my music to 320kbps mp3. I've since moved to the FLAC format for all my music. It's lossless but compressed. You could also do WAV as it's lossless, but it's also uncompressed and will have bigger files.

    Some here might say WAV is better than FLAC, but I honestly can't tell the difference and they are both lossless and should have the same resulting output. Either way, I would go lossless and stick to a format that is not proprietary to a particular company.

    I typically just buy the CD, rip it, and put the CD in a box somewhere and listen to the ripped FLAC version from our media server. I have never purchased and will not purchase from the likes of Apple. I might purchase from HDtracks someday (as I believe you can get the flac version of the songs), but at present, I would still rather have the physical media as a backup.

    How do you access your files? Roon or some other software?
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  • GospelTruth
    GospelTruth Posts: 403
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    My files all sit on a Synology NAS. I run PLEX on the NAS and can access it from my iPhone (with the PLEX app) or we utilize Roku players that are hooked up to every TV/System in the house.

    I'm sure others can comment on devices they use to play their music that are probably more high end that what I use. At this point in life though, that's where I'm at. I just wanted to make sure I had all my music in a format that was lossless so that someday when I have a better setup, the music will already be in the best format it can be.
    Speakers
    Energy RC-70 Mains, Energy RC-LRC Center, Energy RC-R (x4) Rear Channels, Energy RC-R (x2) Front Effects
    Polk 5jr+
    Polk SDA 2B
    Polk SDS 3.1TL
    Equipment
    Panamax 5510 Re-generator Power Conditioner
    Yamaha RX-V3800 Receiver
    Digital Sources: Sony CDP-X339ES CD Player, HHB CDR830 BurnIt Professional CD Recorder, Sony PS3, Oppo DV-983H DVD Player
    Analog Sources: Sony TC-K890ES Cassette, Nakamichi DR-1 Cassette, Technics SL-7 Turntable
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  • treitz3
    treitz3 Posts: 18,331
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    If I were in your shoes or had to start a music collection all over again? I would just use Tidal and call it a day. Then just buy the albums they don't offer and save the rest of my money for better gear or other projects.

    The thought of starting another collection would kill me. I have been building my music collection ever since I was 8 years old. I wouldn't even know where to start. In fact, I wouldn't. I'd do what I just spoke of above.

    Tom
    ~ In search of accurate reproduction of music. Real sound is my reference and while perfection may not be attainable? If I chase it, I might just catch excellence. ~
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  • alucididea
    alucididea Posts: 113
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    treitz3 wrote: »
    If I were in your shoes or had to start a music collection all over again? I would just use Tidal and call it a day. Then just buy the albums they don't offer and save the rest of my money for better gear or other projects.

    The thought of starting another collection would kill me. I have been building my music collection ever since I was 8 years old. I wouldn't even know where to start. In fact, I wouldn't. I'd do what I just spoke of above.
    Tom
    Hey Tom,
    Thats probably what I’m going to do. Tidal is definitely calling my name. I guess I’m just trying to figure out the best way to go about it. I’ve used some software here and there and none of it has really gotten me excited to use.
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  • F1nut
    F1nut Posts: 49,801
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    Political Correctness'.........defined

    "A doctrine fostered by a delusional, illogical minority and rabidly promoted by an unscrupulous mainstream media, which holds forth the proposition that it is entirely possible to pick up a t-u-r-d by the clean end."

    President of Club Polk

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  • BlueFox
    BlueFox Posts: 15,251
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    GospelTruth wrote: »
    I typically just buy the CD, rip it, and put the CD in a box somewhere and listen to the ripped FLAC version from our media server. I have never purchased and will not purchase from the likes of Apple. I might purchase from HDtracks someday (as I believe you can get the flac version of the songs), but at present, I would still rather have the physical media as a backup.

    The benefit of HDTracks is you get High Def files. A CD file is 44/16, and while it does sound good, a high def file is usually better. The minimum file rate you get from HDTracks is 44/24, and many are at at higher rates such as 96/24.

    Enjoy your files.

    Lumin X1 file player, Westminster Labs interconnect cable
    Sony XA-5400ES SACD; Pass XP-22 pre; X600.5 amps
    Magico S5 MKII Mcast Rose speakers; SPOD spikes

    Shunyata Triton v3/Typhon QR on source, Denali 2000 (2) on amps
    Shunyata Sigma XLR analog ICs, Sigma speaker cables
    Shunyata Sigma HC (2), Sigma Analog, Sigma Digital, Z Anaconda (3) power cables

    Mapleshade Samson V.3 four shelf solid maple rack, Micropoint brass footers
    Three 20 amp circuits.
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  • alucididea
    alucididea Posts: 113
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    DSkip wrote: »
    I have tried Tidal on a variety of sources. If you'd like to discuss, feel free to give me a call sometime. Each source changes the experience so there are pro's and con's to every one.
    Hey, thanks Skip. I’d like to hear your highlights, at the very least.
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  • treitz3
    treitz3 Posts: 18,331
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    F1nut wrote: »
    Vinyl

    There was a time......not to long ago.......

    Tom
    ~ In search of accurate reproduction of music. Real sound is my reference and while perfection may not be attainable? If I chase it, I might just catch excellence. ~
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  • mpitogo
    mpitogo Posts: 478
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    My opinion, nothing wrong with Apple Music. I gave up Tidal because I hated waiting to stream, long delays, poor network. I can stream 4K content no problems but hires Tidal was slooow.
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  • pitdogg2
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    F1nut wrote: »
    Vinyl

    Dude who are you?
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  • joecoulson
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    treitz3 wrote: »
    If I were in your shoes or had to start a music collection all over again? I would just use Tidal and call it a day. Then just buy the albums they don't offer and save the rest of my money for better gear or other projects.

    The thought of starting another collection would kill me. I have been building my music collection ever since I was 8 years old. I wouldn't even know where to start. In fact, I wouldn't. I'd do what I just spoke of above.

    Tom

    Agreed
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  • rooftop59
    rooftop59 Posts: 7,976
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    Yea I haven’t had trouble streaming tidal at home, work, or in the car in literally years...something else is the problem.
    Living Room 2.2: Usher BE-718 "tiny dancers"; Dual DIY Dayton audio RSS210HF-4 Subs with Dayton SPA-250 amps; Arcam SA30; Musical Fidelity A308; Sony UBP-x1000es; Squeezebox Touch with Bolder Power Supply
    Game Room 5.1.4:     Denon AVR-X4200w; Sony UBP-x700; Definitive Technology Power Monitor 900 mains, CLR-3000 center, StudioMonitor 350 surrounds, ProMonitor 800 atmos x4; Sub - Monoprice Monolith 15in THX Ultra
    Bedroom 2.1    Cambridge Azur 551r; Polk RT25i; ACI Titan Subwoofer
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