butcher block cutting boards for equipment

marvda1marvda1 Posts: 3,623
edited July 2018 in 2 Channel Audio
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  • ConradiclesConradicles Posts: 5,863
    SDA end caps haha.
  • mark090852mark090852 Posts: 937
    edited July 2018
    This guy's shop is just a few miles from me. He builds some beautiful isolation platforms.
    http://www.timbernation.com/
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  • DSkipDSkip Posts: 16,112
    They're beautiful pieces of furniture. Nothing more. There is no thought in these products about how they can actually influence the sound.

    He uses the term isolation platform, but there is nothing isolating about them. They are just slabs of wood with feet on them.


    I have always admired the beauty of his products though.
  • EndersShadowEndersShadow Posts: 16,817
    edited July 2018
    I've debated this but mainly because I could then drill through it and attach my towers to them and then put spikes on them and be good. My towers upstairs are 35lbs a pop and very skinny so they tip easy, even if I put them on spikes. I need a wide base to keep em from tipping.

    That said, I'd contact our local resident woodworker Ryan @ZLTFUL to commission some from him. He's got access to all the good stuff and knows what he's doing.
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  • DSkipDSkip Posts: 16,112
    I had to put plinths under the T50 like that Dan. It's a good solution given their weight and flimsy nature on carpet.

    If you get a heavy enough piece of wood then you don't need the spikes. Just more work and expense.
  • joecoulsonjoecoulson Posts: 3,432
    I run a cabinet company and our sister company does granite. I’ve always thought about making some platforms for my gear out of it, just never really followed through.
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  • kharp1kharp1 Posts: 3,342
    DSkip wrote: »
    They're beautiful pieces of furniture. Nothing more. There is no thought in these products about how they can actually influence the sound.

    He uses the term isolation platform, but there is nothing isolating about them. They are just slabs of wood with feet on them.


    I have always admired the beauty of his products though.

    Really? No isolation?

    How come it's much harder to hear someone talking being a closed wooden door?

    Take a pair of headphones and put one side on one ear, and, on the other side put a piece of the 2, or , 3 inch butcher block over that ear before putting the earphone on. Tell me it doesn't isolate.

    Perhaps it doesn't isolate as well, or, at the optimal frequencies as other materials, but, there is some isolation.
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  • DSkipDSkip Posts: 16,112
    Proper isolation takes more than just a slab of wood. At best, these slabs can be considered tuning devices because they will impart their own sound onto the component. I've used them with success in the past but I don't want anyone looking at them and considering them isolating platforms.

    Of all the ones shown, the one zeppage listed would probably be closest to what isolation is but still a far ways away. The composite build of the plinth will help reduce the resonance but not eliminate it.

    As far as granite, it's beautiful but has no place in an audio rig. Granite and stone slabs are hard and thus introduce a hard resonance to your system. It will cause it to sound colder and shrill. I wish it wasn't so because nothing is prettier than a nice piece of granite.
  • hochpt21hochpt21 Posts: 5,184
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  • DSkipDSkip Posts: 16,112
    Nice plinth! B)


    I have no issues with the products, just the description. I think it sets misleading expectations that even Kerry was hitting on.
  • hochpt21hochpt21 Posts: 5,184
    DSkip wrote: »
    Nice plinth! B)


    I have no issues with the products, just the description. I think it sets misleading expectations that even Kerry was hitting on.

    I was getting a lot of skips with footfalls in a previous setup and the weight of the butcher block helped tremendously.

    In this setup, with the Ginkgo cloud... the butcher block is mostly to look cool. ;) B)
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  • txcoastal1txcoastal1 Posts: 10,581
    I'd rather use glass and granite :#
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  • kharp1kharp1 Posts: 3,342
    txcoastal1 wrote: »
    I'd rather use glass and granite :#

    I'm laying marble over my oak floors, and, lining my walls with glass from floor to ceiling to help bring some high frequencies back that the tubes are lacking. Want to get a bit more of an "etched" sound.
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  • txcoastal1txcoastal1 Posts: 10,581
    kharp1 wrote: »
    txcoastal1 wrote: »
    I'd rather use glass and granite :#

    I'm laying marble over my oak floors, and, lining my walls with glass from floor to ceiling to help bring some high frequencies back that the tubes are lacking. Want to get a bit more of an "etched" sound.

    That'll have a nice ring to it :)
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  • DSkipDSkip Posts: 16,112
    Don't forget to use Waterford bowls for your speaker enclosures. Beautiful and functional. Just be careful drilling out the terminal holes.
  • pitdogg2pitdogg2 Posts: 14,303
    Rocks and glass always a nice combination
  • marvda1marvda1 Posts: 3,623
    none of you know what you are talking about. although a little pricey, bulletproof glass sounds the best. :D
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  • Viking64Viking64 Posts: 4,232
    Wind chimes hanging right up against your subwoofer = bliss
  • joecoulsonjoecoulson Posts: 3,432
    Wind chimes would turn to glitter in front of my sub
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  • Moose68BashMoose68Bash Posts: 3,597
    @marvda1,

    I've used Boos Block cutting boards on a couple of speaker stands.

    https://www.johnboos.com/product_group.asp?s=c&grp=JBC0051

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  • verbverb Posts: 7,641
    DSkip wrote: »
    They're beautiful pieces of furniture. Nothing more. There is no thought in these products about how they can actually influence the sound.

    He uses the term isolation platform, but there is nothing isolating about them. They are just slabs of wood with feet on them.


    I have always admired the beauty of his products though.

    Agree with Skip. They are massive, heavy, and stiff. Good for minimizing deflection for heavy components, but additional isolation (spikes) would be required. And they are quite nice looking. Many wood species/combinations available.

    Easy to modify to the right size if you have a table saw. More cost effective if you buy larger boards.
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  • msgmsg Posts: 4,985
    kharp1 wrote: »
    txcoastal1 wrote: »
    I'd rather use glass and granite :#
    I'm laying marble over my oak floors, and, lining my walls with glass from floor to ceiling to help bring some high frequencies back that the tubes are lacking. Want to get a bit more of an "etched" sound.
    Save your money. I've got some RTi10s I'll send you.

    I disabled signatures.
  • machonemachone Posts: 1,125
    All kidding aside and certainly not wood is acrylic sheet. Acoustically it is dead as a door nail.
    I use 1 inch thick set on Sorbothane hemispheres for certain components.
    It cuts great on a table saw and with the edges sanded it looks attractive.
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  • SCompRacerSCompRacer Posts: 7,165
    edited July 2018
    hochpt21 wrote: »

    In this setup, with the Ginkgo cloud... the butcher block is mostly to look cool. ;) B)

    The Gingko Cloud is the best TT isolation I have ever used.

    You've really stepped up on the TT path. Very nice! Isn't it amazing, the difference you hear with a significant TT upgrade?

    Slate plinths are great for turntables.
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  • hochpt21hochpt21 Posts: 5,184
    SCompRacer wrote: »
    hochpt21 wrote: »

    In this setup, with the Ginkgo cloud... the butcher block is mostly to look cool. ;) B)

    The Gingko Cloud is the best TT isolation I have ever used.

    You've really stepped up on the TT path. Very nice! Isn't it amazing, the difference you hear with a significant TT upgrade?

    Slate plinths are great for turntables.

    Thanks Rich! I’ve slowly been upgrading pieces but haven’t found the time to post on here about them! Having 3 kids will do that to a guy.

    I still have the Pro-Ject you helped me get from Rob. Believe it or not, but I’ve enjoyed it for 5 years already!

    Still have some configuring to do and then I’ll start reviewing gear.

    You are correct. I didn’t actually expect much, but the Scout surprised me with how much better it sounds. It’s amazing.
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  • joecoulsonjoecoulson Posts: 3,432
    Big step from the project to the scout (assuming same cart)?
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  • hochpt21hochpt21 Posts: 5,184
    Different cart so that definitely plays into it. Grado gold to Ortofon 2m Blue. But I also had a Sumiko Blue Point 2 on the Pro-ject at one point, and the whole setup I have now is superior as far as my listening tastes are concerned.
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  • SCompRacerSCompRacer Posts: 7,165
    hochpt21 wrote: »

    You are correct. I didn’t actually expect much, but the Scout surprised me with how much better it sounds. It’s amazing.

    Our daughter and niece (whom we were legal guardians for), are all grown up and on their own. Just the wife, me a cat and dog.

    Rob lusted for my Nottingham Space 294. When it was time to sell, I took it there and put his cartridge on it. It sounded much better in his system. Then we upped the cartridge. No way I was leaving with it....

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