Wireworld Equinox Pro Reviews

This thread is reserved for those who participated in the demo found here: http://forum.polkaudio.com/discussion/177016/wireworld-equinox-demo-logistics-thread#latest
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Speakers: Harbeth: 30.2, SHL5+; Usher: Be-10, T-515; Rosso Fiorentino: Elba, Pienza, Certaldo, Fiesole, Volterra; Polk: T50, Signature S15, RTA 15tl, RTi12; Sonner Audio Allegro Unum, Legato Unum, Legato Semis, Legato Duo; Emerald Physics CS-2.8; Klipsch KLF-20
Preamps: Shuguang S200MK, Dayens Ampino, Parasound P5
Amps: Shuguang S845MK, Dayens Ampino Monoblocks, Parasound A23
Integrateds: Triode Corporation TRV-88SER, MastersounD: BoX, Dueventi, Compact 845, Evolution 845; North Star Design Blue Diamond
Sources: AURALiC Aries, Denon HEOS Link, North Star Design: Magnifico, Supremo, Incanto, Intenso, Venti
Cabling: Wireworld
TV: Sony XBR-75X940C
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Comments

  • UpstatemaxUpstatemax Posts: 2,232
    I’m assuming this demo is dead in the water?
    Living room:
    Samsung PN50B860 50" Plasma : XBOX One : Roku Ultra : Oppo UDP-203 : Pioneer Elite SC-87 : APC H15 : Focal 806V mains : Focal 806V Surrounds : SVS SB2000 : SVS SB12-NSD

    2Ch:
    Sonus Faber Venere S : Parasound HCA 1500A : Oppo UDP-205 : Furman Elite 15 DM i : Sony XBR 55X810C Monitor :
  • DSkipDSkip Posts: 15,131
    Not dead and I apologize. I have the cables in my possession and meant to give them to Todd to take home, but it didn't happen. I've been trying to find a good time to get that way and think I might have it figured out this Saturday.

    My three youngest were in daycare but we took them out due to issues with the sitter. That has killed much of my time now since I'm the one watching them.
    audiothesis.com/

    Speakers: Harbeth: 30.2, SHL5+; Usher: Be-10, T-515; Rosso Fiorentino: Elba, Pienza, Certaldo, Fiesole, Volterra; Polk: T50, Signature S15, RTA 15tl, RTi12; Sonner Audio Allegro Unum, Legato Unum, Legato Semis, Legato Duo; Emerald Physics CS-2.8; Klipsch KLF-20
    Preamps: Shuguang S200MK, Dayens Ampino, Parasound P5
    Amps: Shuguang S845MK, Dayens Ampino Monoblocks, Parasound A23
    Integrateds: Triode Corporation TRV-88SER, MastersounD: BoX, Dueventi, Compact 845, Evolution 845; North Star Design Blue Diamond
    Sources: AURALiC Aries, Denon HEOS Link, North Star Design: Magnifico, Supremo, Incanto, Intenso, Venti
    Cabling: Wireworld
    TV: Sony XBR-75X940C
  • UpstatemaxUpstatemax Posts: 2,232
    Zero reason to apologize. Family always comes first!

    Have you seen any reviews from the people that have had them?
    Living room:
    Samsung PN50B860 50" Plasma : XBOX One : Roku Ultra : Oppo UDP-203 : Pioneer Elite SC-87 : APC H15 : Focal 806V mains : Focal 806V Surrounds : SVS SB2000 : SVS SB12-NSD

    2Ch:
    Sonus Faber Venere S : Parasound HCA 1500A : Oppo UDP-205 : Furman Elite 15 DM i : Sony XBR 55X810C Monitor :
  • DSkipDSkip Posts: 15,131
    Not yet. Reviews haven't been forthcoming on this or the Vista and I'm planning on reminding people soon.
    audiothesis.com/

    Speakers: Harbeth: 30.2, SHL5+; Usher: Be-10, T-515; Rosso Fiorentino: Elba, Pienza, Certaldo, Fiesole, Volterra; Polk: T50, Signature S15, RTA 15tl, RTi12; Sonner Audio Allegro Unum, Legato Unum, Legato Semis, Legato Duo; Emerald Physics CS-2.8; Klipsch KLF-20
    Preamps: Shuguang S200MK, Dayens Ampino, Parasound P5
    Amps: Shuguang S845MK, Dayens Ampino Monoblocks, Parasound A23
    Integrateds: Triode Corporation TRV-88SER, MastersounD: BoX, Dueventi, Compact 845, Evolution 845; North Star Design Blue Diamond
    Sources: AURALiC Aries, Denon HEOS Link, North Star Design: Magnifico, Supremo, Incanto, Intenso, Venti
    Cabling: Wireworld
    TV: Sony XBR-75X940C
  • rooftop59rooftop59 Posts: 4,753
    DSkip wrote: »
    Not dead and I apologize. I have the cables in my possession and meant to give them to Todd to take home, but it didn't happen. I've been trying to find a good time to get that way and think I might have it figured out this Saturday.

    My three youngest were in daycare but we took them out due to issues with the sitter. That has killed much of my time now since I'm the one watching them.

    I feel ya there man. I also have four, and the twins just moved to kinder so now I have three in public school (a magnet Montessori) and one in daycare. That was a nice little pay raise!
    HT Rig:
    Denon AVR-X4200w; Peachtree Audio Nova Integrated; Bryson BPD-1; Mains: Dynaudio Emit 10 + MartinLogan Dynamo (original) sub; Center - Polk cs400i; Heights, Center Surround - Klipsch KHC - 6 In-Ceiling; Surrounds - Monoprice in-ceiling; Sub - SVS PB10-ISD; LG UP870 4K BDP

    Master Bedroom
    Marantz SR-5007; Peachtree Audio NovaPre; Audiosource Amp Two, PSB Imagine B, Boston VR-10 center, NHT Super One CI surrounds, ACI Titan subwoofer, Squeezebox Touch
  • EndersShadowEndersShadow Posts: 16,129
    You guys keep reminding me to make that call for the "snip" lol..... we are done at 2.
    "....not everything that can be counted counts, and not everything that counts can be counted." William Bruce Cameron, Informal Sociology: A Casual Introduction to Sociological Thinking (1963)
  • dromundsdromunds Posts: 7,322
    Anybody know what happened to Nightfall? Haven't heard from him for a LONG time.
  • DSkipDSkip Posts: 15,131
    I PMed him a while back but got no answer.
    audiothesis.com/

    Speakers: Harbeth: 30.2, SHL5+; Usher: Be-10, T-515; Rosso Fiorentino: Elba, Pienza, Certaldo, Fiesole, Volterra; Polk: T50, Signature S15, RTA 15tl, RTi12; Sonner Audio Allegro Unum, Legato Unum, Legato Semis, Legato Duo; Emerald Physics CS-2.8; Klipsch KLF-20
    Preamps: Shuguang S200MK, Dayens Ampino, Parasound P5
    Amps: Shuguang S845MK, Dayens Ampino Monoblocks, Parasound A23
    Integrateds: Triode Corporation TRV-88SER, MastersounD: BoX, Dueventi, Compact 845, Evolution 845; North Star Design Blue Diamond
    Sources: AURALiC Aries, Denon HEOS Link, North Star Design: Magnifico, Supremo, Incanto, Intenso, Venti
    Cabling: Wireworld
    TV: Sony XBR-75X940C
  • kharp1kharp1 Posts: 2,583
    Bunch of slackers!
    Main System:
    Joule-Electra LA 100 MKIII
    Pass Labs Aleph 30, McCormack DNA-125, Parasound A21
    Marantz SA-14S1
    Usher CP-6311/Tyler Acoustics Taylo Reference Monitor, LSA-1
    Dual SVS SB2000
    Wireworld Equinox 7 bi-wire, Wireworld Silver Eclipse 7 IC

    Secondary Rig:
    Parasound P5, Audio Electronics by Cary Constellation
    Marsh a200s, Audio Elecrtonics by Cary Hercules
    Pioneer Elite DV-45a, Denon DVD-2910
    Klipsch Epic CF-1, Vandersteen 3CE sig
    Analysus Plus Oval

  • lightman1lightman1 Posts: 9,928
    You guys keep reminding me to make that call for the "snip" lol..... we are done at 2.

    $20 and no questions asked.....you never saw me.
  • Jim ShearerJim Shearer Posts: 351
    Greetings and Felicitations!

    Best wishes to all for a joyous and prosperous New Year!

    And, oh, by the way, we don't seem to have any reviews yet on the cables. Just wondering if we can look forward to reports in this new year? Inquiring minds & all that...

    Cheers, Jim
    A day without music is like a day without food.
  • tratlifftratliff Posts: 656
    @DSkip I still need to get the cables from you when we can. I kinda forgot about this till I ran across it again today.

    I also need to check out those chezzy new speakers you have. I only say that because I think I know whats going to happen when I do. :)
    2 Channel
    Legacy Focus SE, McIntosh C50, McIntosh MC601's, VPI Prime w/SoundSmith Zephyr MIMC, Parasound Halo JC3, Marantz SA-14s1, Oppo BDP-105, Technics RS-1500, Furman Elite 15PFi, Douglas Connection Alpha Interconnects, Douglas Connection Alpha Speaker Cables, Pangea Power Cables

    Theater
    Yamaha RX-Z9, Legacy Focus SE (same as 2 Channel system), Def Tech C/L/R 2500, Def Tech BP-2X, Def Tech Pro-Monitors, Vizio M-75

    Office
    Teac NP-H750, Parasound Ztuner, Audio Engine P4N, Grado SR80, Grado iGrado, Audio-Technica ATH-M50, PC running High Rez files

    Living Room
    Yamaha YSP-4100 digital sound projector, Sharp Aquos 60"

    Bed Room
    Yamaha YSP-5100 digital sound projector, Sharp Aquos 70"

  • dromundsdromunds Posts: 7,322
    What's going on with this? No reviews so far? C'mon boys.
  • muncybobmuncybob Posts: 1,913
    I would certainly post my thoughts if they ever make it my way.
    Yep, my name really is Bob.
    Parasound HCA1500, Dynaco PAS4, Denon DP1200 w/Shure V15 Type V and Jico SAS stylus, Oppo BDP93, "upgraded" Polk SDA 2B.
  • DSkipDSkip Posts: 15,131
    The tour took a detour but is now back on track.
    audiothesis.com/

    Speakers: Harbeth: 30.2, SHL5+; Usher: Be-10, T-515; Rosso Fiorentino: Elba, Pienza, Certaldo, Fiesole, Volterra; Polk: T50, Signature S15, RTA 15tl, RTi12; Sonner Audio Allegro Unum, Legato Unum, Legato Semis, Legato Duo; Emerald Physics CS-2.8; Klipsch KLF-20
    Preamps: Shuguang S200MK, Dayens Ampino, Parasound P5
    Amps: Shuguang S845MK, Dayens Ampino Monoblocks, Parasound A23
    Integrateds: Triode Corporation TRV-88SER, MastersounD: BoX, Dueventi, Compact 845, Evolution 845; North Star Design Blue Diamond
    Sources: AURALiC Aries, Denon HEOS Link, North Star Design: Magnifico, Supremo, Incanto, Intenso, Venti
    Cabling: Wireworld
    TV: Sony XBR-75X940C
  • ClipdatClipdat Posts: 4,959
    Interested.
  • tratlifftratliff Posts: 656
    Cables are in my system now. I have about 8 hours listening time on them as of now. Need to put another 8 hours or so on them then will give my impressions.
    2 Channel
    Legacy Focus SE, McIntosh C50, McIntosh MC601's, VPI Prime w/SoundSmith Zephyr MIMC, Parasound Halo JC3, Marantz SA-14s1, Oppo BDP-105, Technics RS-1500, Furman Elite 15PFi, Douglas Connection Alpha Interconnects, Douglas Connection Alpha Speaker Cables, Pangea Power Cables

    Theater
    Yamaha RX-Z9, Legacy Focus SE (same as 2 Channel system), Def Tech C/L/R 2500, Def Tech BP-2X, Def Tech Pro-Monitors, Vizio M-75

    Office
    Teac NP-H750, Parasound Ztuner, Audio Engine P4N, Grado SR80, Grado iGrado, Audio-Technica ATH-M50, PC running High Rez files

    Living Room
    Yamaha YSP-4100 digital sound projector, Sharp Aquos 60"

    Bed Room
    Yamaha YSP-5100 digital sound projector, Sharp Aquos 70"

  • Joey_VJoey_V Posts: 6,657
    Cool
    Joey's Gear:
    Current Gear:
    Torus RM15 -> Emm Labs DAC2x and TSDX Transport -> Cary SLP-05 preamp -> Boulder 2060 stereo amp (w/ Audioquest WEL Signature) -> new speakers
    Rotel RA1592 Super Integrated -> Sonus Faber Olympica 3
    Rotel RC1570 preamp -> Rotel RB1582 amp -> Focal Kanta 2

    Old Gear:
    Speakers: BW PM1 (3.5/5), CM10s2 (3.75/5), BW800D3 (5/5), Rockport Aviors (5/5), Sonus Faber Stradivari (5/5), BW 802D2 (4.5/5), Martin Logan Summits (4.25/5), Martin Logan Vantage (4/5), Sonus Faber Cremona Auditor (3.75/5), AV123 Strata Mini (3.5/5), ML Mosaic (3.25/5), Onix Ref1 (3/5), Sonus Faber Concerto (2.75/5), SF Concertino (2.5/5), Axiom M22ti (2/5), Polk LSi9 (3/5), LSi7 (2.9/5)
    Source: Squeezebox 3 -> PS Audio Digital Link III -> Cary 306/200 CDP -> Cary 306 SACD -> EMM LABS DAC2X/TSDX
    Preamplification: Rotel RC1070 -> Rogue Perseus -> Cary SLP98 -> Cary SLP98F1 -> Cary SLP05 (sold and then repurchased)
    Amplification: HK AVR330 -> Rotel RB1070 -> Rotel RB1090 -> Plinius SA102 -> Cary 211FE -> Classe M600 -> Boulder 2060
    Subwoofer: Infinity Entra2 sub -> SVS 25-31PC+ sub
  • tratlifftratliff Posts: 656
    Well its been sometime since I have had the cables connected but here are my thoughts.

    The packaging was very nice. Cables came in a zippered bag/container that managed them very well.

    The ability to switch from spades to bananas was a great benefit since I was not comfortable with the spades on the speaker end when all was connected. The spades appeared to be putting to much force/pressure on the connection. Once I changed to the bananas it seemed to provide a more relaxed connections.

    These cable are very stout. It was rather difficult to snake them into the configuration I was accustomed to. But after routing and re-routing a few times I got them in a good place. I guess I am use to my current cables which are very flexible.

    Once everything was connected and I powered up the system I immediately noticed a change. At this point I was not sure if it was a good change or a bad change. I had convinced myself to give it some time in order to make an informed decision.

    I let the cables settle in for about 8 hours then I started to listen more closely. I noticed that the highs had rolled-off and the mids appeared bloated. The sound stage had also been reduced. I was not sure what had happened so I decided to go thru the system and make sure nothing had changed. I have had some problems like this when my turntable gets out of spec. But I also noticed these changes while using either SACD players or DACs.

    This continued for the next couple of weeks. As I listened the music was not drawing me in as it had in the past. I found myself concentrating on what I perceived as the system not performing up to prior standards.

    Once I got confirmation from @DSkip to pass them on to Joey I boxed them up for shipment and replaced them with my original cables.

    When I turned the system on with the original cables I immediately noticed that I was back to what I had been searching for the past few weeks. I was relived to get back to my comfort zone.

    Seems to me that the synergy just was not in place in my system. Although my expectations were that these cables should provide great results I was not won over by them.

    I think this just points to the fact that cables can and do impact a systems performance and much time and research should go into selection.

    Most know my system details but for those who do not here is a list of the equipment that was used during the evaluation:

    Preamp: McIntosh C50
    Amps: McIntosh M601's
    Speakers: Legacy Focus S/E's
    CD/SACD: Marantz SA-14s1, Oppo BD-105
    Turntable: VPI Prime w/SoundSmith Zephyr MIMC cartridge
    Phono Preamp: Parasound JC3
    DACs: McIntosh C50, Marantz SA-14s1, Oppo BD-105
    Interconnects: Furutech Alphas

    Thanks to @DSkip for the opportunity to give these a try.
    2 Channel
    Legacy Focus SE, McIntosh C50, McIntosh MC601's, VPI Prime w/SoundSmith Zephyr MIMC, Parasound Halo JC3, Marantz SA-14s1, Oppo BDP-105, Technics RS-1500, Furman Elite 15PFi, Douglas Connection Alpha Interconnects, Douglas Connection Alpha Speaker Cables, Pangea Power Cables

    Theater
    Yamaha RX-Z9, Legacy Focus SE (same as 2 Channel system), Def Tech C/L/R 2500, Def Tech BP-2X, Def Tech Pro-Monitors, Vizio M-75

    Office
    Teac NP-H750, Parasound Ztuner, Audio Engine P4N, Grado SR80, Grado iGrado, Audio-Technica ATH-M50, PC running High Rez files

    Living Room
    Yamaha YSP-4100 digital sound projector, Sharp Aquos 60"

    Bed Room
    Yamaha YSP-5100 digital sound projector, Sharp Aquos 70"

  • dromundsdromunds Posts: 7,322
    I asked in your other thread but I'll ask here also- what are your existing speaker cables? You mentioned Furutech Alpha's as interconnects. Not real familiar with those, is that also the SC?
  • erniejadeerniejade Posts: 4,287
    Nice review. I believe he is using Doug's Alpha speaker cable but, I could be wrong.
    Lumin D1,Wireworld Silver Eclipse 7, KEF LS50 Wireless, Velodyne SPL1200, Technics 1200, Denon DL160, Jolida D9,
    USB helpers: w4s Recovery
    Living Room Elite SC27, LSI25
    Have but haven't used in a while: LH Labs VI Dac, Cayin SCD50T

  • tratlifftratliff Posts: 656
    Yes, current speaker cables are Dougs Alpha (Furutech Alpha).
    2 Channel
    Legacy Focus SE, McIntosh C50, McIntosh MC601's, VPI Prime w/SoundSmith Zephyr MIMC, Parasound Halo JC3, Marantz SA-14s1, Oppo BDP-105, Technics RS-1500, Furman Elite 15PFi, Douglas Connection Alpha Interconnects, Douglas Connection Alpha Speaker Cables, Pangea Power Cables

    Theater
    Yamaha RX-Z9, Legacy Focus SE (same as 2 Channel system), Def Tech C/L/R 2500, Def Tech BP-2X, Def Tech Pro-Monitors, Vizio M-75

    Office
    Teac NP-H750, Parasound Ztuner, Audio Engine P4N, Grado SR80, Grado iGrado, Audio-Technica ATH-M50, PC running High Rez files

    Living Room
    Yamaha YSP-4100 digital sound projector, Sharp Aquos 60"

    Bed Room
    Yamaha YSP-5100 digital sound projector, Sharp Aquos 70"

  • Joey_VJoey_V Posts: 6,657
    edited April 25
    MY TAKE ON WIREWORLD EQUINOX (vs 12g stock copper wire vs Audioquest WEL Signature)

    Just want to thank Skip for the opportunity to hear the WW Equinox speaker wire, I finally completed my research in my lab. The WW Equinox does impress. I don't see the flaws in it for the price charged.

    The Wireworld Equinox was compared in my system against 2 units. Stock 12g speaker wire... the original bad boy. Also in comparison was the Audioquest WEL speaker wire. I did have another speaker wire on hand, the Audioquest Aspen speaker wire which could have been a better comparison to the WW Equinox given the pricing, but I kinda got tired of having to swap so many cords, so I gave up and stuck with the 3.

    I will say this: there is not much to lose with the WW Equinox.

    I mainly played 2 songs:
    Rebecca Pidgeon - "Spanish Harlem"
    Adele - "Someone like you"

    I was about to play more but I kinda got tired.... haha.... running theme here.

    The 3 Cables:
    1. 12g OFC wire - first impression, plays flat, but the tone is good. Voice is nestled about a foot too high for my liking, the stage is noticeably restricted laterally as well. The bass is still there, sounds warm and sounds good actually. The piano sounded like it was just glossed over, you can hear it, but you can't hear it if you get what I'm saying.

    OK.. I am turning up the volume, there is no volume scaling... things just get louder and it becomes slightly a mess. It takes you a few seconds to refocus and then your mind puts the stage back together.... the singer is in the middle, but kinda large... I follow the sibiliants to find the tip of the lips.... ah, there it is, still kinda tall... freakishly tall. Not good.

    Too much going on... seems akin to not having a filter, just the entire sonic landscape dumped on your lap from a basin.

    2. Wireworld Equinox - first impression, OK is this the WEL? NO seriously, is this the WEL? Voice nestled in the middle, the vocalist's mouth is pretty darn close to where I would expect it, maybe a couple inches too tall?... but not bad. The piano sounds better, but there is still some haze. The bass is rhythmic, warm, cuddly even hahaha.... The soundstage has opened up some, but I still think the stage front to back is still a little contracted, but not bad. Let's open up the volume... ok, there it is, it likes to be turned up. Now that I have the volume turned up, the sound stage is more solid and more formed, the singer is more holographic and dense and seems to have taken a step or two forward towards me.

    The imaging is still a little larger or wider than I'd like (vocalist), but a significant improvement from the 12g stock wire.

    The tone is good, nice and warm, very pleasing. Easy to listen to, reminds me of a nice cup of Joe.

    There was one thing I did notice, I'm not sure if it's because it is so transparent... but the WW Equinox has a slight reverb that I'm hearing on some tracks, especially in the first 10 seconds of Spanish Harlem, perhaps that's the recording, but it definitely was not as pronounced on the other units. It's gotta be in the recording but it definitely accentuates it.

    3. Audioquest WEL - ok, so this is how the WELs sound. Even if you blinded me, A/B, I can tell the WEL between the rest of the cables. The WELs sound better still. In what ways?

    The singer is better defined in as an image, no matter the volume, low or high. On the WW Equinox, things to start to come on its own when you increase the volume, not that the imaging was lacking before when it was on a low volume, I'm talking in relative terms when you back to back it to the AQ WEL.

    The WEL is better at having the vocalist glow from within, there seems to be an intrinsic energy to the singer, comes from the feet to the mouth, almost like a phantasm standing there (kinda scary at times).

    I also feel like it gives better dead space between instruments, there isn't as much blur to the edges of the images, not to say that the imaging of the WEL is sharp and hi-fi, but it sounds like someone actually put a diorama together rather than a photo for show and tell.

    There is less opacity to the notes, you can definitely tell on the piano and the guitar, and the maracas.... more immediate sounding without sounding brittle or harsh.

    Bass is even to the WW Equinox, I can't tell a different, or atleast a signifncant difference.

    The WEL is also smooth, it's not like other silvers that can be bright and displeasing, this is Patron Tequila (for those who like tequila), it's just smoother to down than something like Souza.

    Conclusion:
    I can recommend the Wireworld Equinox without reservation, at a price for an 8 ft biwire pair of $725 (correct me if I'm wrong Skip), it is a great cable and is a significant step up from your stock 12-16g copper wiring. It gives you a few things that the higher/highest end cables give - itll give you a better sense of space, stage, it removes a layer of sheen from the notes, it will respond to the volume control better and not just spill the entire orchestra on your lap, rather it tucks in the musicians in their own little space but adjusts the intensity of the play.

    It also images the voice/lips well, not too tall, near ideal height.

    It may not have the clarity or utmost dead space as the higher up wires, but it is easily discernable to be a significant step up from stock cabling.

    CAVEAT:
    I used a full Audioquest loom above the speaker wires.

    It went AQ WEL power cord into the TORUS RM15 power conditioner. Then 3 AQ WEL power cords into the Emm Labs TSDX transport/Emm Labs DAC2x/Cary SLP05 tube preamplifier.

    That alone will change the sonic output of the units/speaker wires. A layer of haze, a layer of grunge would be removed by the aforementioned WEL power cords. Dynamics would have been improved as well and soundstaging dimensionality as well. Imaging would be moved up a notch as well.

    I think the best experiment for this would have been stock cords on all, remove the power conditioner, just use the speaker wires in a/b/c fashion.

    However, once I realized this, I was again too tired and gave up.

    NEXT:
    The WW cord is being mailed to Jeff in Indiana... have fun! (not sure of the polk forum handle)
    Joey's Gear:
    Current Gear:
    Torus RM15 -> Emm Labs DAC2x and TSDX Transport -> Cary SLP-05 preamp -> Boulder 2060 stereo amp (w/ Audioquest WEL Signature) -> new speakers
    Rotel RA1592 Super Integrated -> Sonus Faber Olympica 3
    Rotel RC1570 preamp -> Rotel RB1582 amp -> Focal Kanta 2

    Old Gear:
    Speakers: BW PM1 (3.5/5), CM10s2 (3.75/5), BW800D3 (5/5), Rockport Aviors (5/5), Sonus Faber Stradivari (5/5), BW 802D2 (4.5/5), Martin Logan Summits (4.25/5), Martin Logan Vantage (4/5), Sonus Faber Cremona Auditor (3.75/5), AV123 Strata Mini (3.5/5), ML Mosaic (3.25/5), Onix Ref1 (3/5), Sonus Faber Concerto (2.75/5), SF Concertino (2.5/5), Axiom M22ti (2/5), Polk LSi9 (3/5), LSi7 (2.9/5)
    Source: Squeezebox 3 -> PS Audio Digital Link III -> Cary 306/200 CDP -> Cary 306 SACD -> EMM LABS DAC2X/TSDX
    Preamplification: Rotel RC1070 -> Rogue Perseus -> Cary SLP98 -> Cary SLP98F1 -> Cary SLP05 (sold and then repurchased)
    Amplification: HK AVR330 -> Rotel RB1070 -> Rotel RB1090 -> Plinius SA102 -> Cary 211FE -> Classe M600 -> Boulder 2060
    Subwoofer: Infinity Entra2 sub -> SVS 25-31PC+ sub
  • indyhawgindyhawg Posts: 976
    edited May 17
    Here is my input to the cable demo. Thanks to Skip for setting this up. I received the cables from Joey. They arrived with no issues. The cables had a zippered container which also held some banana plugs which I did not use during my demo. The cables are bi-wired equipped with spades on the speaker end and bananas on the amp end. These cables not very pliable, so getting them installed onto the speakers took a little effort to get right. I really do not have a lot of experience with nicer cables, except for some I purchased from Doug a couple years back which have served me well, which replaced some Audioquest Type 4 cables. For this review, I compared all three cables even though there are significant price differences between all three.

    The Wireworld sets a very large soundstage. Acoustic guitars are clear and sparkle. Vocals have a nice forward feel.

    In comparing cables, I thought the Type 4’s bass got a little sloppy on a few songs, the bass tightened up significantly with Doug’s and stayed there with the Wire World. The Wireworld cables were the most detailed of the group. I noticed on a few tracks the separation between instruments began to deteriorate slightly when I switched to Doug’s and then even more to the AQ 4’s. This comparison was done in my small system which I have Usher BE-718’s driven by a pair of Monarchy Class A monoblocks.

    I then changed to my system in my big room which also doubles as a home theater. I use Doug’s cables here on my 2.3 TL’s driving them with a Sunfire TGA-7401. In this set up it was more difficult to tell a significant difference in the cables. This kinda surprised me because I initially thought that in this set up I would see the biggest difference. However, it may be more system synergy than anything.

    In conclusion, these are very nice cables. They cost around double compared to the cables Doug made for me. If I had to compare, the two, I would say that the Wire World does get the edge. They are a little sharper in bass, mids, and highs….but not much. Doug’s cables were easier to work with because they are not as stiff. They are also a better bang for the buck I feel. Doug just builds a great cable at a very reasonable price. If you have the money and can afford it, I would recommend the Wireworld to anyone looking to up their cable game--and buy them from Skip.

    Once again, a big thank you to Skip for allowing these demo’s to take place. This is a great opportunity to check out how cables work in your set up.
  • tratlifftratliff Posts: 656
    @indyhawg. Great review. Can you tell us which of Doug’s cables you have?

    2 Channel
    Legacy Focus SE, McIntosh C50, McIntosh MC601's, VPI Prime w/SoundSmith Zephyr MIMC, Parasound Halo JC3, Marantz SA-14s1, Oppo BDP-105, Technics RS-1500, Furman Elite 15PFi, Douglas Connection Alpha Interconnects, Douglas Connection Alpha Speaker Cables, Pangea Power Cables

    Theater
    Yamaha RX-Z9, Legacy Focus SE (same as 2 Channel system), Def Tech C/L/R 2500, Def Tech BP-2X, Def Tech Pro-Monitors, Vizio M-75

    Office
    Teac NP-H750, Parasound Ztuner, Audio Engine P4N, Grado SR80, Grado iGrado, Audio-Technica ATH-M50, PC running High Rez files

    Living Room
    Yamaha YSP-4100 digital sound projector, Sharp Aquos 60"

    Bed Room
    Yamaha YSP-5100 digital sound projector, Sharp Aquos 70"

  • indyhawgindyhawg Posts: 976
    I have Doug's Furez cables with the Furez silver spades.
  • Joey_VJoey_V Posts: 6,657
    Thanks for the review Jeff.
    Joey's Gear:
    Current Gear:
    Torus RM15 -> Emm Labs DAC2x and TSDX Transport -> Cary SLP-05 preamp -> Boulder 2060 stereo amp (w/ Audioquest WEL Signature) -> new speakers
    Rotel RA1592 Super Integrated -> Sonus Faber Olympica 3
    Rotel RC1570 preamp -> Rotel RB1582 amp -> Focal Kanta 2

    Old Gear:
    Speakers: BW PM1 (3.5/5), CM10s2 (3.75/5), BW800D3 (5/5), Rockport Aviors (5/5), Sonus Faber Stradivari (5/5), BW 802D2 (4.5/5), Martin Logan Summits (4.25/5), Martin Logan Vantage (4/5), Sonus Faber Cremona Auditor (3.75/5), AV123 Strata Mini (3.5/5), ML Mosaic (3.25/5), Onix Ref1 (3/5), Sonus Faber Concerto (2.75/5), SF Concertino (2.5/5), Axiom M22ti (2/5), Polk LSi9 (3/5), LSi7 (2.9/5)
    Source: Squeezebox 3 -> PS Audio Digital Link III -> Cary 306/200 CDP -> Cary 306 SACD -> EMM LABS DAC2X/TSDX
    Preamplification: Rotel RC1070 -> Rogue Perseus -> Cary SLP98 -> Cary SLP98F1 -> Cary SLP05 (sold and then repurchased)
    Amplification: HK AVR330 -> Rotel RB1070 -> Rotel RB1090 -> Plinius SA102 -> Cary 211FE -> Classe M600 -> Boulder 2060
    Subwoofer: Infinity Entra2 sub -> SVS 25-31PC+ sub
  • EndersShadowEndersShadow Posts: 16,129
    edited May 18
    @indyhawg I wonder if some of it is your room. Your Usher room you've done a REMARKABLE job of treating, the HT room has some logistical challenges to being treated, and I think you may have some limitations on what you can do in their. Not knocking it at all, as I'd take either of your rooms in a heartbeat lol.

    I'm thinking that might be some of the difference in hearing the subtle differences, if not a large part of it....
    "....not everything that can be counted counts, and not everything that counts can be counted." William Bruce Cameron, Informal Sociology: A Casual Introduction to Sociological Thinking (1963)
  • indyhawgindyhawg Posts: 976
    Dan-- you may have a point. The room the Ushers in is heavily treated. There was an echo in that room so bad you could not even hold a conversation. I agree I still have work to do on the big room. I'll get that room figured out one day.
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