Infinite Baffle
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Is it me, or does the box have 3 different size drivers? What kind of configuration is that? -
Is it me, or does the box have 3 different size drivers? What kind of configuration is that?
That was a box built with a design similar to a VMPS Larger sub using higher excursion TC Sounds LMSR drivers.
The Larger used a active 15 & 18" driver with a 18" passive on the floor that acts like a port.
Here is the sub it was eventually going to look like...
"....not everything that can be counted counts, and not everything that counts can be counted." William Bruce Cameron, Informal Sociology: A Casual Introduction to Sociological Thinking (1963) -
Interesting. According to convention, the passive should have at least 1.5x the pistonic volume capacity of the active driver. But in that box, there are 2 active drivers, one being the same size of the passive, which would suggest that the passive could potentially be pushed past it's x-max. I would have thought that only the 15 would have been active...
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Is it me, or does the box have 3 different size drivers? What kind of configuration is that?
Another pics of Russ' sucking thumb...
2-channel: Modwright KWI-200 Integrated, Dynaudio C1-II Signatures
Desktop rig: LSi7, Polk 110sub, Dayens Ampino amp, W4S DAC/pre, Sonos, JRiver
Gear on standby: Melody 101 tube pre, Unison Research Simply Italy Integrated
Gone to new homes: (Matt Polk's)Threshold Stasis SA12e monoblocks, Pass XA30.5 amp, Usher MD2 speakers, Dynaudio C4 platinum speakers, Modwright LS100 (voltz), Simaudio 780D DAC
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Interesting. According to convention, the passive should have at least 1.5x the pistonic volume capacity of the active driver. But in that box, there are 2 active drivers, one being the same size of the passive, which would suggest that the passive could potentially be pushed past it's x-max. I would have thought that only the 15 would have been active...
Yup... but only Trey, Tom and Russ know how it sounded as they all heard it before it was sold off for parts...
From my understanding it was bucking Russ off it and thrashing around the floor like a bucking bull with only 1k of wattage from a Pro amp lol...."....not everything that can be counted counts, and not everything that counts can be counted." William Bruce Cameron, Informal Sociology: A Casual Introduction to Sociological Thinking (1963) -
The passive was an 18", actives were a 12 and 15 and that sub was just stupid nuts- Not Tom ::::::: Any system can play Diana Krall. Only the best can play Limp Bizkit.
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Makes me want to recreate that box!!! I like a good ruckus
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XTI2000 should be next week some time... so far have about $600 in this configuration... not bad at all considering the performance people talk about.
Will be very hard to not cut some holes in the floor very soon!- Not Tom ::::::: Any system can play Diana Krall. Only the best can play Limp Bizkit. -
Very nice. Where did you decide to mount the subs? Floor, ceiling or wall?
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So I did a "bass walk" and the location I plan to put the hole is the left front corner of the room in the floor. I think this will provide the best bass response.- Not Tom ::::::: Any system can play Diana Krall. Only the best can play Limp Bizkit.
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So I did a "bass walk" and the location I plan to put the hole is the left front corner of the room in the floor. I think this will provide the best bass response.
Waaaaahhhhhhh.....in the floor?! :a
Remember, when cutting, ask yourself, "what would Wile E. Coyote do?"Where’s the KABOOM?!?! There’s supposed to be an Earth shattering KABOOM!!! -
So I did a "bass walk" and the location I plan to put the hole is the left front corner of the room in the floor. I think this will provide the best bass response.
Is the listening position still almost directly in front of the front door, about 4-5' out from the door?
Tom~ In search of accurate reproduction of music. Real sound is my reference and while perfection may not be attainable? If I chase it, I might just catch excellence. ~ -
For Music, yes. For movies and such, will be left corner, left of door- Not Tom ::::::: Any system can play Diana Krall. Only the best can play Limp Bizkit.
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If I find another pair of fi drivers used, i could see adding another pair in the future- Not Tom ::::::: Any system can play Diana Krall. Only the best can play Limp Bizkit.
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If I find another pair of fi drivers used, i could see adding another pair in the future
All the bass!!!!! I want ALL THE BASS!!!!!
"....not everything that can be counted counts, and not everything that counts can be counted." William Bruce Cameron, Informal Sociology: A Casual Introduction to Sociological Thinking (1963) -
If I find another pair of fi drivers used, i could see adding another pair in the future
2 IB drivers will only equal 1 single box driver. I think that you will be underwhelmed unless you have heard one before. The bass is cleaner, smoother, and deeper but will lack impact and the heft/mass that a huge box sub delivers. You will reach Xmax with very little power applied and thus headroom will suffer. I would make the manifold to accept another pair easily or plan for a second one in the other corner.HT Optoma HD25 LV on 80" DIY Screen, Anthem MRX 300 Receiver, Pioneer Elite BDP 51FD Polk CS350LS, Polk SDA1C, Polk FX300, Polk RT55, Dual EBS Adire Shiva 320watt tuned to 17hz, ICs-DIY Twisted Prs, Speaker-Raymond Cable
2 Channel Thorens TD 318 Grado ZF1, SACD/CD Marantz 8260, Soundstream/Krell DAC1, Audio Mirror PP1, Odyssey Stratos, ADS L-1290, ICs-DIY Twisted , Speaker-Raymond Cable -
Honestly the Mezzo Utopia has it covered down to about 30hz... I really don't even need a subwoofer for (most) music.
What I am really hoping for is the low end extension and a little bit of reinforcement above 30hz. My room is also not tooooo huge, 22'x16'x8'- Not Tom ::::::: Any system can play Diana Krall. Only the best can play Limp Bizkit. -
Bring the bass!
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3" excursion -vs- direct servo...
Game. Set. Match, behaucth.
The end result will be what it is. Infinite baffle versus Direct servo.
Who will win?
Let your ears decide....
Tom~ In search of accurate reproduction of music. Real sound is my reference and while perfection may not be attainable? If I chase it, I might just catch excellence. ~ -
Nice looking pooches, is the brindle a Plott?HT Optoma HD25 LV on 80" DIY Screen, Anthem MRX 300 Receiver, Pioneer Elite BDP 51FD Polk CS350LS, Polk SDA1C, Polk FX300, Polk RT55, Dual EBS Adire Shiva 320watt tuned to 17hz, ICs-DIY Twisted Prs, Speaker-Raymond Cable
2 Channel Thorens TD 318 Grado ZF1, SACD/CD Marantz 8260, Soundstream/Krell DAC1, Audio Mirror PP1, Odyssey Stratos, ADS L-1290, ICs-DIY Twisted , Speaker-Raymond Cable -
thank you sir! All mut, both of them. The brindle from what I can tell is a boxer/pit bull mix.- Not Tom ::::::: Any system can play Diana Krall. Only the best can play Limp Bizkit.
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You are going to love an IB. Have heard several. Not sure why, but have seemed to integrate and call less attention to themselves with music yet call plenty of attention to themselves with movies
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"....not everything that can be counted counts, and not everything that counts can be counted." William Bruce Cameron, Informal Sociology: A Casual Introduction to Sociological Thinking (1963)
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Lifes been busy man, I'm like the little engine that could
- Not Tom ::::::: Any system can play Diana Krall. Only the best can play Limp Bizkit. -
Getting closer
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Guys, you undersold the crap out of this idea
I am simply blown away what two of these freaking woofers can do. I thought I needed more and actually acquired 6 of them but I am just going to do 4, two per side of the room
The quality and extension of the bass is absolutely stupid
Jeez- Not Tom ::::::: Any system can play Diana Krall. Only the best can play Limp Bizkit. -
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Should of used lock nuts you'll rattle those lose.... lol
Just mucking with ya Trey -
Should of used lock nuts you'll rattle those lose.... lol
Just mucking with ya Trey
Or double nut them
Undersold....wasn't me 2-channel: Modwright KWI-200 Integrated, Dynaudio C1-II Signatures
Desktop rig: LSi7, Polk 110sub, Dayens Ampino amp, W4S DAC/pre, Sonos, JRiver
Gear on standby: Melody 101 tube pre, Unison Research Simply Italy Integrated
Gone to new homes: (Matt Polk's)Threshold Stasis SA12e monoblocks, Pass XA30.5 amp, Usher MD2 speakers, Dynaudio C4 platinum speakers, Modwright LS100 (voltz), Simaudio 780D DAC
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Haha, yeah I might put some of the thread lock on there... I had a small window with the wife gone and I figured I'd ask for forgiveness on this one... Hahahha
Thing installed in a little over a hour, used a floor jack and my removable panels for the driver mounts worked great- Not Tom ::::::: Any system can play Diana Krall. Only the best can play Limp Bizkit.
