Help? $200 powered sub recommendations (yup, another...)

gp4jesusgp4jesus Posts: 1,549
Subject line about about says it. My friend says he is open to suggestions, but stuck on:
a. new, wireless, NOW
b. budget (trying to do it cheap)
c. my [USED(!)] sub's* $, a mere $75 though, new ~$600 I think(?)
* well performing but, in a larger room, the weak link

I've (desperately) tried to convince him to wait ($ave) & of just how important (better?) the sub is. That is, relative to the rest of the speaker part of the system, it's the least tolerant to compromise for total system performance. He expects to move* long before upgrading any HT gear. When that* happens I'd tell 'em AMPs!
* bigger space

It's** "home" located close to the AVR - therefore I don't see the need/add'l expense. Spend it on the sub! At the moment Dayton Audio 1200 wireless**(!) is front runner @ $192**, 12" & 120W.
** wired, $138

Existing equipment: late model Onkyo 700* series AVR w/pre-outs. LCR: RTiA3 & CSiA4. Surrounds: FXiA4 HT room in a small-ish 11'X 16' w/a low ceiling
* 705 I think

Thanks in advance for your suggestions especially those that would convince him to wait/buy a better sub.

Tony
Samsung 60" UN60ES6100 LED
Outlaw Audio 976 Pre/Pro
Samsung BDP, Dish Rcvr, Xbox, Phillips CD chgr

Canare 14 ga - LCR tweeters inside*; CC outside
BJC 10 ga - LCR mids, inside* & out
8 ga Powerline - LR woofers, inside* & out
*soldered

LR: tri-amped RTi A7 w/Rotels. Woofers - 980BX; M&T - 981
CC: Rotel RB985 -> tri-amped CSi A6
5 Audio Pro Subs: 1 B1.39: an Evidence at each corner
Surrounds: Rotel 981 -> AR 12 ga -> RTi A3
Power Conditioning & Distribution:
3 dedicated 20A feeds; APC H15; 4 Furman Miniport 20s
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  • WLDockWLDock Posts: 2,800
    edited January 2016
    Well, the Dayton will for sure be better than "NO" sub....feedback suggests its a nice option. However, I think the BIC F-12 has been a well received ~$200 "budget" sub for years.

    $175.34 before shipping:
    http://www.provantage.com/bic-america-f12~7BICA003.htm

    Can buy the Dayton wireless Sub-Link XR separate for $59.
    http://www.parts-express.com/dayton-audio-sub-link-xr-24-ghz-wireless-audio-transmitter-receiver-system-for-subwoofers--300-580

    Not sure one can top this for a NEW wireless option unless you find a good used deal? Many BIG names, HSU, SVS, Velodyne, Outlaw, Elemental Designs, etc show up in the $200-$350 range used if one keeps a sharp eye out....check CL often.
    Post edited by WLDock on
    FAMILY ROOM
    HDTV - Sharp AQUOS LC-70LE600U 70" | AVR/Streamer - Onkyo TX-NR3008 | Amp - Parasound HCA-1203A
    Blu-Ray/Media/Gaming - Sony PS3-320GB / Microsoft Xbox One | Broadcast - Xfinity X1 Platform
    Front Spkrs - Coming...DIY Statement II | Center Spkrs - Coming...DIY Statement II | Rear Spkrs - Artison Portrait LRS
    Sub - DIY Stereo Integrity HT 15 | Sub Amp - Dayton Audio SA1000
    Wire - Audioquest Type 4, BJC Belden 5000 | HDMI - BJC Belden | Power Cables - Pangea | Surge - Monster
  • MrBuhlMrBuhl Posts: 2,427
    I have a BIC powered sub upstairs, it's older, but for $200 or less I have always been pleased with it's performance. I agree with WLDock.
    VA HT HK AVR20II, Sony S9000ES CD/DVD/SACD, Polk Audio RC80i / Polk Audio CSi3, 60" Panasonic Plasma, Nordost / Signal Cable A2 / Wireworld / Pangea / Magic Power
    VA 2 Channel Focal Electra 926 speakers, Pass Labs X150.5 Amp, Eastern Electric MiniMax Preamp (Tutay mods), Eastern Electric Minimax CDP (Scott Nixon mods), Music Hall mmf 5.1 Turntable, Parks Audio Budgie Phono Pre , Audioengine B1 streamer, MIT S3 IC's / MIT Shotgun S3 Speaker Cables / PS Audio power cables
    Noggin Schiit Valhalla, Pangea, Phillips Fidelio X1, Polk UF8000

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    Polk CRS+ 4.1TL modded (need veneer)
    Polk SDA2BTL (fully modded)
    A/L 1000VA Dreadnought Canare 4s11 SDA cable
    SACD Marantz DV8300
    Sony S9000ES CD/DVD/SACD
    Yamaha YP-D6
    Soundcraftsmen PCR800
    Audible Illusions L1 Preamp
    Vincent MFA based Cocci Tube Preamp
    Pho-700 Phono Pre
    Signal Cable Silver Resolution IC's






  • gp4jesusgp4jesus Posts: 1,549
    edited January 2016
    He cooling & saving. Warming up to wired w/a$300 cap.

    Sunfire SDS caught his attention - 12" w/a stout amp.
    Samsung 60" UN60ES6100 LED
    Outlaw Audio 976 Pre/Pro
    Samsung BDP, Dish Rcvr, Xbox, Phillips CD chgr

    Canare 14 ga - LCR tweeters inside*; CC outside
    BJC 10 ga - LCR mids, inside* & out
    8 ga Powerline - LR woofers, inside* & out
    *soldered

    LR: tri-amped RTi A7 w/Rotels. Woofers - 980BX; M&T - 981
    CC: Rotel RB985 -> tri-amped CSi A6
    5 Audio Pro Subs: 1 B1.39: an Evidence at each corner
    Surrounds: Rotel 981 -> AR 12 ga -> RTi A3
    Power Conditioning & Distribution:
    3 dedicated 20A feeds; APC H15; 4 Furman Miniport 20s
  • WLDockWLDock Posts: 2,800
    Well...generally with used subs you have to find something local to get the best deal....shipping is killer and many won't do it. However, One can get a lot for their money used....especially at $300+

    HSU VTF-15H - $300
    http://mobile.craigslist.org/ele/5367121844.html

    HSU VTF3 - $300
    http://www.ebay.com/itm/hsu-research-vtf-3-subwoofer-/172053833104?hash=item280f352590:g:dBIAAOSwHaBWjfLd

    Elemental Design A5-350 - $300
    http://philadelphia.craigslist.org/ele/5361213566.html

    HSU vtf-2 mk2 - $300
    https://salem.craigslist.org/for/5397305862.html

    SVS PB1-ISD - $200
    http://palmsprings.craigslist.org/ele/5337099596.html

    Definitive Technology PF15TL - $275
    http://boise.craigslist.org/ele/5396452073.html

    Elemental Design Audio A2-300 - $150
    http://collegestation.craigslist.org/ele/5349870046.html

    Outlaw Audio LFM-1 EX - $350
    https://newyork.craigslist.org/stn/for/5395730253.html

    FAMILY ROOM
    HDTV - Sharp AQUOS LC-70LE600U 70" | AVR/Streamer - Onkyo TX-NR3008 | Amp - Parasound HCA-1203A
    Blu-Ray/Media/Gaming - Sony PS3-320GB / Microsoft Xbox One | Broadcast - Xfinity X1 Platform
    Front Spkrs - Coming...DIY Statement II | Center Spkrs - Coming...DIY Statement II | Rear Spkrs - Artison Portrait LRS
    Sub - DIY Stereo Integrity HT 15 | Sub Amp - Dayton Audio SA1000
    Wire - Audioquest Type 4, BJC Belden 5000 | HDMI - BJC Belden | Power Cables - Pangea | Surge - Monster
  • ROHfanROHfan Posts: 1,005
    I will echo the sentiments on the Bic F-12. I had one for a while and it did the job. Once I upgraded to Martin Logan Electrostats I knew I needed something more refined to fill in the bottom end. I'd definitely recommend the Bic. It's rock solid and gets pretty low for its price.
    TV: 70" LED Sharp Aquos Quattron 3D
    Fronts: Energy RC70 --- Center: Energy RC-LCR
    Front Heights: Polk RC65i --- Rears: Polk RC85i --- Sub: Power Sound Audio XS15
    Pioneer VSX-1120K --- Parasound HCA-1000A --- Oppo BDP-103
    Vincent Audio SA31 preamp --- Teac UD301 DAC
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