power conditioner help

Mikey081057 · December 2015

WTF they were practically giving them away...

txcoastal1 · December 2015

Mikey081057 wrote: »

WTF they were practically giving them away...

That's what I'll tell the wife after I give her Dan's ph#

EndersShadow · December 2015

txcoastal1 wrote: »

Mikey081057 wrote: »

WTF they were practically giving them away...

That's what I'll tell the wife after I give her Dan's ph#

Say you bought it for skip lol

F1nut · December 2015

Looks like that sale has ended, at least at Music Direct.

Mikey081057 · December 2015

Glad I got one...was looking yesterday at another panamax but this is mo' better!

txcoastal1 · December 2015

Funny because it still mentions being 50% off in the description

BlueFox · December 2015

Power conditioners are great, and definitely needed in any serious setup. I just negotiated a great deal with the Cable Company to trade in my HT Shunyata Triton v1 for a Triton v2. Every little tweak helps.

F1nut · December 2015

txcoastal1 wrote: »

Funny because it still mentions being 50% off in the description

That is odd.

Mikey081057 · December 2015

And don't forget a power cable for your Dectet

http://www.musicdirect.com/p-2124-ps-audio-perfectwave-ac-3-power-cable.aspx

txcoastal1 · December 2015

I'm going to assume this was based on a certain quantity

EndersShadow · December 2015

Mikey081057 wrote: »

And don't forget a power cable for your Dectet

http://www.musicdirect.com/p-2124-ps-audio-perfectwave-ac-3-power-cable.aspx

I've got some nice Pangeas AC-9 for sale too

voltz · December 2015

I think a few companies owe Jesse & Mike a commission.

Mikey081057 · December 2015

Hard to get deals on high quality items... Gotta jump on them when you can...

I was looking at this one and or another Panamax and this one is better and cheaper... hard to argue with that.

[Deleted User] · December 2015

go to the PS Audio site if you still want one... NP

Mikey081057 · December 2015

Yup here they are still at $250

http://www.psaudio.com/products/dectet-power-center/

gp4jesus · December 2015

Upstatemax wrote: »

In general, I like my amps plugged direct into the wall, but I get a hum* from my 1500A if I do.

Apologies if any either said this or you've heard this: don't assume your place is wired* correctly* - I speak from experience!

Lowe's/HD sells a $mall, brainless gizmo that you just plug in any socket giving instant confirmation of same* either way.

My $0.02: as of 2 Fridays ago my system has 2 separate (15A & 20A) CORRECTLY wired** feeds. Neither breaker*** shares the same leg*** from the road - important note: when I "system power" tested on the same leg, turning on just one of my amps "flickered" the H15 Line Boost circuit. Now*** even w/a Mackie 1400i**** plugged into the same strip, I can power all up at once, no flicker!

An APC 15H powers/filters all the low draw gear from the 15A. All amps & sub by the 20A using 2 Furman Miniport-20s handling distribution & turn-on chores. I regret if I knew then what I now know I would have run 2 20A or a single 30A for same!
** I'm not an electrician.
**** pro amp that draw 1500W

Merry CHRISTmas! Tony

gp4jesus · December 2015

recoveryone wrote: »

...I have 3 of them now (all Panamax) and they do make a difference.

In parallel, right? Not in series...

Upstatemax · December 2015

gp4jesus wrote: »

Upstatemax wrote: »

In general, I like my amps plugged direct into the wall, but I get a hum* from my 1500A if I do.

Apologies if any either said this or you've heard this: don't assume your place is wired* correctly* - I speak from experience!

Lowe's/HD sells a $mall, brainless gizmo that you just plug in any socket giving instant confirmation of same* either way.

My $0.02: as of 2 Fridays ago my system has 2 separate (15A & 20A) CORRECTLY wired** feeds. Neither breaker*** shares the same leg*** from the road - important note: when I "system power" tested on the same leg, turning on just one of my amps "flickered" the H15 Line Boost circuit. Now*** even w/a Mackie 1400i**** plugged into the same strip, I can power all up at once, no flicker!

An APC 15H powers/filters all the low draw gear from the 15A. All amps & sub by the 20A using 2 Furman Miniport-20s handling distribution & turn-on chores. I regret if I knew then what I now know I would have run 2 20A or a single 30A for same!
** I'm not an electrician.
**** pro amp that draw 1500W

Merry CHRISTmas! Tony

Thanks for the reply.

The house and dedicated lines are wired properly. I don't get any flickering or dimming, just some noise.

When the Parasound was on a shared line the hum was much worse, once I installed the dedicated line it was reduced, drastically.

I've found that the line conditioners eliminate the noise, for the whole system. Just makes sure that I get as low of a noise floor as possible.

Speedskater · December 2015

Those small brain-less 3 LED probes can be easily tricked.
This by a pro-audio guy on a much better test. But note that some of the newest Non Contact Voltage Probes are just too sensitive.

Failures in Outlet Testing Exposed
Jul 15, 2013 Mike Sokol | Electrical Construction and Maintenance

http://ecmweb.com/contractor/failures-outlet-testing-exposed

gp4jesus · December 2015

Upstatemax wrote: »

Even with all of it going this was the HIGHEST current draw the Furman saw:

May suggest cautious enthusiasm? Don't allow that readout to lure you into a false sense of "it's enough." That is assume that current "meter" is "catching the peaks." Test, test...

Saw similar stuff while Power testing the feeds I wrote of earlier w/APC on the same leg. I'd turn on an amp on the 20A while watching APC*'s voltage in/out readout both hovering ~the 120 mark yet the Line Boost* LED would briefly flash - because the line voltage BRIEFLY dipped below 103, 98, or 93VAC depending upon the setting**.

Similar results watching the current draw during power up on the APC*** plugged into the 20A using same*** to power 2 or more amps
* on the 15A
** I confirmed this wAPC customer service

...and test some more. Other wise as others have experienced, you may limit amp power and your fun!

Tony

msg · December 2015

Hey guys, I also found these PS Audio current taps, available from a seller on Ebay. He sells them 3 for $100, which I thought it was a steal. I ordered two sets. Pretty sure the conductors are gold plated.

Mikey081057 · December 2015

Did he have any left? or did you hog em all up?

msg · December 2015

He said he's got some more coming in this week in time for Christmas, and to tell all my friends.

tophatjohnny · December 2015

The seller is waiting for my 3 year old grandson to finish finger painting the PS Audio logos before he can unload the next batch. Kid's funding his own college act. and he is getting better and better at it all the time!

Upstatemax · December 2015

gp4jesus wrote: »

May suggest cautious enthusiasm? Don't allow that readout to lure you into a false sense of "it's enough." That is assume that current "meter" is "catching the peaks." Test, test...

Saw similar stuff while Power testing the feeds I wrote of earlier w/APC on the same leg. I'd turn on an amp on the 20A while watching APC*'s voltage in/out readout both hovering ~the 120 mark yet the Line Boost* LED would briefly flash - because the line voltage BRIEFLY dipped below 103, 98, or 93VAC depending upon the setting**.

Similar results watching the current draw during power up on the APC*** plugged into the 20A using same*** to power 2 or more amps
* on the 15A
** I confirmed this wAPC customer service

...and test some more. Other wise as others have experienced, you may limit amp power and your fun!

Tony

I have done my test and my studies.

I'm not concerned. The MAX amperage draw the 1500A can pull is about 8 amps.

Again, that is max. I barely dig into what my amp is capable of in my system.

If I was pushing much larger, 4ohm speakers that forced me to really open my amp up, I would invest in something larger to feed it.

However, I have fairly efficient bookshelf speakers in a moderate sized room. These Focal's are nothing to this amp.

I did test connecting the amp directly to the outlet and connected to the Furman. System sounds good with amp directly connected to outlet. However, I lose zero dynamics plugging into the Furman and I gain a lower noise floor and less smearing of the soundstage.

mikeyb128 · December 2015

I've never liked plugging my power amps into conditioners. I use one in my theater, but sunfire plugged right into the wall. 2 channel system my mono blocks right into the wall as well. I've definitely noticed an improvement in picture. But the conditioner has always seemed to suck the life out of music with amps plugged into it. Although I've never had the luxury of super expensive power conditioners. My Nordost quantum power strip is about twice the cost of my Panamax 5400pm, and no filtration tech built into it. I guess the problem lies with older houses etc. that's cool the furman fixed your issue! Focals are a nice efficient speaker. Super easy to drive. Don think I could go back to hard to drive speakers.

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