Changing my rears..

Mudfrog · January 2013

Lately I've been noticing that my Monitor 30's just sound too different from the rest of my setup. At times they sound kind of "hollow" and some scenes sound like two separate movies are going on (they don't mesh). Is there a better rear speaker I can use that is still wall mountable? I've thought about the 40's but being a 5.25" speaker I would think it still wouldn't sound right, or will having the dual 5.25's fix that?

Mudfrog · January 2013

I actually plan on upgrading to an Onkyo 818 so the receiver won't be an issue for long. That being said, I was watching Legion the other day and there is a scene where a dog barks (not much else going on) in the rear speakers, then in the front. It sounded like two different dogs. I could buy what your saying if it was a heavy audio scene but that particular scene was not.

cowtrimmer · January 2013

Setting the crossover of your speakers the same takes away a lot of the difference in sound when it travels from the front to back or vice versa. After I run my audyssey I always go back in the menu and make sure the rears match the fronts.

Mudfrog · January 2013

cowtrimmer wrote: »

Setting the crossover of your speakers the same takes away a lot of the difference in sound when it travels from the front to back or vice versa. After I run my audyssey I always go back in the menu and make sure the rears match the fronts.

I'll play around with that. I prefer my fronts set to large and my rears are set to small.

RamZet · January 2013

I have monitor 40s as rears. I was using them with M70s (and now they are used as rears with B&W CM9s and CMC center). I think they blend great. To me it sounds like your issues is with the surround sound processor. Are the distances and delays setup correctly? I would leave the delay and distance settings at default. If your unit has audyssey or mcacc I would run the auto setup.

RamZet · January 2013

Another trick is to run all your video/audio sources to the TV (HDMI) and then use the one optical audio output on the TV back to surround sound processor. This will remove any audio delay you may notice when watching video.

good luck

michael1947 · January 2013

I also use some m70's and they will eat up every bit of power your Onkyo has. I use an older Onkyo TXSR 805 which weighs 50+ pounds and about 135 wps in my workshop with the M70's and they suck the power down...but sounds nice. I purchased the Onkyo 708 as a refurbished unit with warranty from Club Onkyo for less than $300, in my main HT and at about 110 wps it only powers my rears and pre-outs to an XPA-5 which bi-amps my front SDA's and center. Change to something with pre-outs, an 800 series Onkyo or my personal favorite a Yamaha RXV 2700 which I use in my work-out room. Good luck.

B Run · January 2013

I ran M30's as rears for a while and thought they blended perfectly and handled surround duty no problem, I think your issue was either the source or the AVR.

Mudfrog · January 2013

There might be a little confusion. The scene with the dog used the bark in the surrounds while the scene was focused on the main character, then the scene showed the dog and this is when I heard it bark up front. So it wasn't a delay, the bark just sounded differently, maybe it was different on the audio track. As for the crossover I typically keep my sub off unless watching certain movies, the 70's have enough midbass that I don't need the sub for tv viewing. If I turn the sub on sometimes I leave the 70's set to large, other times I'll set them to small with the crossover at 70. Audyssey set me speakers up for me, the only thing I changed was to back the the sub off a little bit and I added slightly more db to the center.

Mudfrog · January 2013

Ok, wasn't sure if everyone was familiar with the scene. Once I get the 818 (or other receiver, still debating) I'll probably move the 30's to the rears and pick up some 40's or something similar (probably the 45b since the 40's aren't available anymore) for the sides.

Changing my rears..

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