Carver Silvers

prds7564
prds7564 Posts: 7
edited September 2012 in Basic Hookup/Wiring Questions
I just bought a set of Silvers from my neighbor. Thought i was in for some great sounding music. I cant understand how such a nice looking Loudspeaker could perform so terrible!!! I must have my wires crossed? I almost started the crossover on fire just trying to break them in. The came with new woofers and rebuilt ribbons from my neighbor who is a wonderful person. I have not asked him his opinion yet i don't want to sound like the idiot that maybe i am. So i thought this would be a good way to introduce myself to you all. I Bi Amped them with no real improvement. Woofers distort at about 40 watts ribbons are OK but cant wake the neighbors. Anybody have this same problem?
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  • soundfreak1
    soundfreak1 Posts: 3,414
    edited June 2012
    Need more info: amp? Pre ? Ect. Ect.
    Main Rig:
    Krell KAV 250a biamped to mid/highs
    Parasound HCA1500A biamped to lows
    Nakamichi EC100 Active xover
    MIT exp 1 ic's
    Perreaux SA33 class A preamp
    AQ kingcobra ic's
    OPPO 83 CDP
    Lehmann audio black cube SE phono pre, Audioquest phono wire (ITA1/1)
    Denon DP-1200 TT. AToc9ML MC cart.
    Monster HTS 3600 power conditioner
    ADS L1590/2 Biamped
    MIT exps2 speaker cable
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  • gdb
    gdb Posts: 6,012
    edited June 2012
    Wrong forum. Try the two Carver ones instead.:wink:

    http://thecarversite.com/yetanotherforum/default.aspx?g=forum

    http://www.carveraudio.com/index.php/forum
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  • prds7564
    prds7564 Posts: 7
    edited June 2012
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    prds7564 Posts: 7
    edited June 2012
    Carvin HT400 XC3000 Phase Liner 2000 Series II Denon CD Please don't laugh I did say Carvin...
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  • prds7564
    prds7564 Posts: 7
    edited June 2012
    Thank You I can feel the Love.
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  • soundfreak1
    soundfreak1 Posts: 3,414
    edited June 2012
    Couldnt fine any info on your amp ? The carver are known to require a lot of clean, highcurent power. If under powered they sound terrible, from what ive heard from poeple who have owned them. I would start with at least 250/300 w highcurent to get them to really open up.
    Main Rig:
    Krell KAV 250a biamped to mid/highs
    Parasound HCA1500A biamped to lows
    Nakamichi EC100 Active xover
    MIT exp 1 ic's
    Perreaux SA33 class A preamp
    AQ kingcobra ic's
    OPPO 83 CDP
    Lehmann audio black cube SE phono pre, Audioquest phono wire (ITA1/1)
    Denon DP-1200 TT. AToc9ML MC cart.
    Monster HTS 3600 power conditioner
    ADS L1590/2 Biamped
    MIT exps2 speaker cable
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  • prds7564
    prds7564 Posts: 7
    edited June 2012
    Thank You I will go to the next size up I just didn't want to damage them.I will let you know as soon as possible.
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  • gdb
    gdb Posts: 6,012
    edited June 2012
    Carver info will be found on the two sites I linked for you.
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  • F1nut
    F1nut Posts: 51,674
    edited June 2012
    prds7564 wrote: »
    I just bought a set of Silvers from my neighbor. Thought i was in for some great sounding music. I cant understand how such a nice looking Loudspeaker could perform so terrible!!! I must have my wires crossed? I almost started the crossover on fire just trying to break them in. The came with new woofers and rebuilt ribbons from my neighbor who is a wonderful person. I have not asked him his opinion yet i don't want to sound like the idiot that maybe i am. So i thought this would be a good way to introduce myself to you all. I Bi Amped them with no real improvement. Woofers distort at about 40 watts ribbons are OK but cant wake the neighbors. Anybody have this same problem?

    Did you listen to them at your neighbors before you bought them? Who replaced the woofers? Are you positive they are OEM replacements? Who rebuilt the ribbons? Who put it all back together again?

    Describe the set up. Toe-in? 7 degree back angle? Distance from rear and side walls? Room size?
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  • F1nut
    F1nut Posts: 51,674
    edited June 2012
    From your other thread....
    I am powering them with 150 watts lows and 150 watts highs with active X-over at 150 Hz.

    If you are using an active crossover and you state you almost set the Silver's crossovers on fire, you really have no idea what you're doing. You have to bypass the passive crossovers in order to use the active.
    Political Correctness'.........defined

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  • soundfreak1
    soundfreak1 Posts: 3,414
    edited June 2012
    Dont know the prob. Between f1 and gdb but with all respect to the original poster of this thread i think u 2 should take it somewhere else. Go to the clubhouse a duke it out but respect fellow polkies and help them and cut the crap out on someone elses thread.
    Main Rig:
    Krell KAV 250a biamped to mid/highs
    Parasound HCA1500A biamped to lows
    Nakamichi EC100 Active xover
    MIT exp 1 ic's
    Perreaux SA33 class A preamp
    AQ kingcobra ic's
    OPPO 83 CDP
    Lehmann audio black cube SE phono pre, Audioquest phono wire (ITA1/1)
    Denon DP-1200 TT. AToc9ML MC cart.
    Monster HTS 3600 power conditioner
    ADS L1590/2 Biamped
    MIT exps2 speaker cable
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  • [Deleted User]
    [Deleted User] Posts: 7,658
    edited June 2012
    Hello prds,
    First of all, welcome to Polk's forum. There are plenty of members who have lot's of experience with Carver gear and they are generous and helpful. If you can give them a little more detail on the complete system I'm sure they can be of help.
    Best regards, Ken
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  • cstmar01
    cstmar01 Posts: 4,424
    edited July 2012
    There are so many issues here. For one if you have an external cross over (not an eq and real cross over) you have to do as Jesse said. You can't use the crossover inside the speakers if using an external active.

    Also something would really have to be wired wrong if you are setting it on fire. Seriously stop. If it is smoking or you see a little red flame there is something wrong.

    Next talk to your neighbor. Seeing he is your neighbor I'm sure he would rather see these run correctly then out on the sidewalk as firewood. Did he have them playing at his place? how was it set up? Did he use the external cross over? ASK HIM FOR HELP.

    They are too nice of a speaker to be lit on fire because you were running something wrong.
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  • F1nut
    F1nut Posts: 51,674
    edited July 2012
    I always find it odd when someone comes here looking for help and then vanishes.
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  • PolkClyde
    PolkClyde Posts: 662
    edited September 2012
    F1nut wrote: »
    I always find it odd when someone comes here looking for help and then vanishes.

    That's true.........I also find it odd when someone ask for help and get no replies....in a helps forum.
    PolkAudioClyde
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  • F1nut
    F1nut Posts: 51,674
    edited September 2012
    What's really hilarious is when the mods remove all your BS posts while you're trying to get to 100....back to zero.
    Political Correctness'.........defined

    "A doctrine fostered by a delusional, illogical minority and rabidly promoted by an unscrupulous mainstream media, which holds forth the proposition that it is entirely possible to pick up a t-u-r-d by the clean end."

    President of Club Polk

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