Help me select a new (used) cd player

bklynNupe
bklynNupe Posts: 728
edited August 2012 in Electronics
Hi, I?m looking to buy a cd player to be used as a transport for my W4S dac2. I?ve read that some cd players are capable of upsampling to 192k? I?ve been looking at some older Sony and Philips SACD players for under $300. At present, I only own redbook. I'm not too sure if If plan to buy any SACD's. I do use HD Tracks for digital downloads.

Any suggestions on a new(used) player?

Thanks.

emotiva xpa-2
emotiva xpa-3
Denon 3312ci
Rtia9 /csia6 / FXi A6
Samsung LN46A650
SVS PB-12-NSD sub

Audio Research SP-9 MKIII (GNSC mods)
W4S ST250
Lsi 9 (mods)
W4S DAC-2
Mac Mini
Audio Aero Prima CD player
Pro-Ject debut
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  • bklynNupe
    bklynNupe Posts: 728
    edited August 2012
    anyone? :smile:

    emotiva xpa-2
    emotiva xpa-3
    Denon 3312ci
    Rtia9 /csia6 / FXi A6
    Samsung LN46A650
    SVS PB-12-NSD sub

    Audio Research SP-9 MKIII (GNSC mods)
    W4S ST250
    Lsi 9 (mods)
    W4S DAC-2
    Mac Mini
    Audio Aero Prima CD player
    Pro-Ject debut
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  • tonyb
    tonyb Posts: 33,077
    edited August 2012
    Why do you need a cdp to upsample when your using the W4S dac ? The W4S is doing all the conversion. Since you already are doing digital downloads, why not hit up a Squeezebox, throw all your cd's on the 'puter and be done with it ? Other than that, as just a transport for redbook, any decently built cdp will do.
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  • soundfreak1
    soundfreak1 Posts: 3,414
    edited August 2012
    +1 tonyb as a tramsport all u need is a decent lasar and a quiet motor and digital outs everything else is hamdled by tje DAC. Oh also get remote amd multi disc if u want.
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  • Face
    Face Posts: 14,340
    edited August 2012
    You have a PM.
    "He who fights with monsters should look to it that he himself does not become a monster. And when you gaze long into an abyss the abyss also gazes into you." Friedrich Nietzsche
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  • erniejade
    erniejade Posts: 6,321
    edited August 2012
    I have a denon 2910, and a pioneer pd-d9 and a w4s dac2. Using them both as a transport, I heard a difference between them. I have heard people say a cd player using the coax or digital out to a dac should not have any difference on the sound so, I had to do my own test. Thank you to newrival for confirming I am not crazy and he also heard a difference in the sound as well.

    Using the coax out on both units to the w4s dac2, to me, the pioneer dp-d9 was cleaner in the mids, and the bass, at first i thought was lacking on the pioneer vs the denon but after listening to it more, it wasnt lacking but it was more controlled. I think sometimes we mistake less bass for a morcontrolleded bass even though there is nothing missing. The highs were a bit closer but, i think the pioneer edged it out. Not saying the denon did bad, it actually sounded quite good and if I didnt have the pioneer to do a fast direccompareir, I would have never known there was a difference.

    Anyway, a transport I have found out is not just a transport but does have some differences on the sound quality.

    Now it could be that because the pioneer is like 10 years newer that the transport is just stronger? or transfers the data faster? using the same cable, w4s dac2, legacy focus speakers, newrival and I both heard the difference in sound.

    Again big thank you to newrival for stopping over to let me know the differences were there and not just in my mind because i wanted a difference to be there. We both heard differences, and we both heard different differences but, both agreed a transport is not a transport.
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  • nspindel
    nspindel Posts: 5,343
    edited August 2012
    It's out of your budget, but I just got a Marantz SA8004. I love it. It's an SACD player with a phenomanal 24-bit DAC that takes digital inputs from other transports. So I have all my redbook and hdtracks stuff coming through my Squeezebox and into the Marantz, and I can also play SACD. It doesn't do 5.1, it's purely 2-channel, but that's how I roll so I'm fine with that. Full list price is a grand, though. I saw an open-box one on OneCall for $799.
    Good music, a good source, and good power can make SDA's sing. Tubes make them dance.
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