Dumb things you've heard from "audiophiles"...

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halo71
halo71 Posts: 4,572
edited April 2012 in The Clubhouse
Post 'em up. Thought it would be funny to hear what crazy ridiculous things you've heard before.



I actually read this on another audio forum recently. He was not joking either!
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  • markmarc
    markmarc Posts: 2,309
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    I can think of two forums where that belief is etched in stone, poor souls.
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  • EndersShadow
    EndersShadow Posts: 17,528
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    halo71 wrote: »
    Post 'em up. Thought it would be funny to hear what crazy ridiculous things you've heard before.



    I actually read this on another audio forum recently. He was not joking either!

    LOL... I believe that was in a thread I was involved in yesterday perhaps........ :wink:
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  • BlueFox
    BlueFox Posts: 15,251
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    halo71 wrote: »
    I actually read this on another audio forum recently. He was not joking either!

    In that case, the title should be "Dumb things you've heard from people who are clueless about audio." :lol:
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  • cnh
    cnh Posts: 13,284
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    I don't know whether Halo intends this for audio only.

    OK, I see he does.

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  • pietro944
    pietro944 Posts: 720
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    "synergy".......and....."everything matters":rolleyes:
  • Face
    Face Posts: 14,340
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    pietro944 wrote: »
    "synergy".......and....."everything matters":rolleyes:
    It sounds like you belong at one of the forums referred to above.
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  • cnh
    cnh Posts: 13,284
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    Where is Jinjuku or whatever his handle was when you need him? All you have to do is "mine" his posts and you'd instantly have a dozen "funnies".

    Let's see if I can remember one: Pro-amps are as good or better than higher end power amps. Or something like that.

    Was he also the CAT-5 Bandit who thought internet grade communication cables were as good or better than anything else?

    cnh
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  • pietro944
    pietro944 Posts: 720
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    Face wrote: »
    It sounds like you belong at one of the forums referred to above.

    ......and you belong with the lemmings and kool-aid drinkers:eek:
  • tonyb
    tonyb Posts: 32,906
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    This isn't going to end well is it ?
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  • EndersShadow
    EndersShadow Posts: 17,528
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    tonyb wrote: »
    This isn't going to end well is it ?

    It didnt in the thread he pulled this from.... I know :wink:
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  • Face
    Face Posts: 14,340
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    pietro944 wrote: »
    ......and you belong with the lemmings and kool-aid drinkers:eek:
    Thanks for reinforcing how little you know.
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  • halo71
    halo71 Posts: 4,572
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    Damnit Enders......I was trying to keep that outta this! lol

    Tony, I think you may be right there.
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  • 67jason
    67jason Posts: 57
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    halo71 wrote: »
    Post 'em up. Thought it would be funny to hear what crazy ridiculous things you've heard before.



    I actually read this on another audio forum recently. He was not joking either!


    If you are going to quote me, I'd appreciate it if you would include my name. :wink:

    Its funny to me that there are so many kool-aid drinkers over here. I lurk most days over here and get a few good laughs while I am bored at work.

    Go ahead it get you panties in a bunch and say how wrong and clueless i am etc. It no skin off my back. The fact is none of you can prove scientifically that your beliefs are true, the best argument you got is going to be telling me how you don't need science to prove your beliefs and all the things you think you hear. Its all good. Remember way back when people didn't need science to prove the world was flat, but they did need it to prove it was round. So all you guys enjoy your gear and keep your beliefs to yourself, because I dont need to hear it. And any one who will attempt to argue with me over here, you wasting your breath, because your arguments will be falling on deaf ears. So go ahead and flame away, flex your superiority complexes. I know it will make you feel better tearing me up. I will be enjoying me gear.

    so have it boys.
  • halo71
    halo71 Posts: 4,572
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    Deaf ears huh? Apparently not. :cheesygrin:

    If you can not hear a difference that is all fine and well. You should post that as opinion though.


    Yep Tony....you were correct! lol
    --Gary--
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  • BlueFox
    BlueFox Posts: 15,251
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    67jason wrote: »
    Go ahead it get you panties in a bunch and say how wrong and clueless i am etc. It no skin off my back. The fact is none of you can prove scientifically that your beliefs are true, the best argument you got is going to be telling me how you don't need science to prove your beliefs and all the things you think you hear. Its all good. Remember way back when people didn't need science to prove the world was flat, but they did need it to prove it was round. So all you guys enjoy your gear and keep your beliefs to yourself, because I dont need to hear it. And any one who will attempt to argue with me over here, you wasting your breath, because your arguments will be falling on deaf ears. So go ahead and flame away, flex your superiority complexes. I know it will make you feel better tearing me up. I will be enjoying me gear.

    As Abraham Lincoln so wisely stated:

    "Better to remain silent and be thought a fool than to speak out and remove all doubt." :rolleyes:
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  • BeefJerky
    BeefJerky Posts: 1,319
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    A bit-perfect copy of a CD sounds different than the original.
    ...
    A lossless file from a bit-perfect CD rip sounds different than the original CD.
    ...
    Digital cable X sounds different than digital cable Y.

    Those are the ones that spring to mind for me.
  • decal
    decal Posts: 3,205
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    halo71 wrote: »
    Post 'em up. Thought it would be funny to hear what crazy ridiculous things you've heard before.



    I actually read this on another audio forum recently. He was not joking either!

    worms.jpg

    The can has officially been opened !!!!!!!!
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  • sda2mike
    sda2mike Posts: 3,131
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    the placement of the instruments was spot-on....how the F would they know? were they there, in the studio or hall?
  • WilliamM2
    WilliamM2 Posts: 4,713
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    BeefJerky wrote: »
    A bit-perfect copy of a CD sounds different than the original.
    ...
    A lossless file from a bit-perfect CD rip sounds different than the original CD.
    ...
    Digital cable X sounds different than digital cable Y.

    Those are the ones that spring to mind for me.

    Well of course they don't sound the same if you haven't broken them in properly. Everyone knows you have to play the files for 200 hours before comparing! :rolleyes:
  • F1nut
    F1nut Posts: 49,787
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    67jason wrote: »
    .

    I culled your posts over there. I see you got into an entry level consumer AVR, entry level consumer speakers and entry level consumer cable last year, which is all fine and dandy. I'm curious though, have you ever owned anything other than entry level consumer gear because I see you still haven't learned the difference between an amp and an AVR, which when coupled with your quoted comment at the beginning of this thread naturally leads one to believe that you do not possess the experience and knowledge needed to formulate an opinion on the matter.
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  • Toolfan66
    Toolfan66 Posts: 16,894
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    ......and you belong with the lemmings and kool-aid drinkers:rolleyes:
  • Face
    Face Posts: 14,340
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    Great thread Gary. :rolleyes:
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  • Toolfan66
    Toolfan66 Posts: 16,894
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    67jason wrote: »
    If you are going to quote me, I'd appreciate it if you would include my name. :wink:

    Its funny to me that there are so many kool-aid drinkers over here. I lurk most days over here and get a few good laughs while I am bored at work.

    Go ahead it get you panties in a bunch and say how wrong and clueless i am etc. It no skin off my back. The fact is none of you can prove scientifically that your beliefs are true, the best argument you got is going to be telling me how you don't need science to prove your beliefs and all the things you think you hear. Its all good. Remember way back when people didn't need science to prove the world was flat, but they did need it to prove it was round. So all you guys enjoy your gear and keep your beliefs to yourself, because I dont need to hear it. And any one who will attempt to argue with me over here, you wasting your breath, because your arguments will be falling on deaf ears. So go ahead and flame away, flex your superiority complexes. I know it will make you feel better tearing me up. I will be enjoying me gear.

    so have it boys.

    Flush...
  • markmarc
    markmarc Posts: 2,309
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    F1nut wrote: »
    I culled your posts over there. I see you got into an entry level consumer AVR, entry level consumer speakers and entry level consumer cable last year, which is all fine and dandy. I'm curious though, have you ever owned anything other than entry level consumer gear because I see you still haven't learned the difference between an amp and an AVR, which when coupled with your quoted comment at the beginning of this thread naturally leads one to believe that you do not possess the experience and knowledge needed to formulate an opinion on the matter.

    A valid question! Nothing beats actual seat time with a variety of equipment.
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  • SCompRacer
    SCompRacer Posts: 8,352
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    67jason wrote: »
    So all you guys enjoy your gear and keep your beliefs to yourself, because I dont need to hear it.

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  • halo71
    halo71 Posts: 4,572
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    Face wrote: »
    Great thread Gary. :rolleyes:

    You no approve? Gotta admit, his comment was funny.
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  • brgman
    brgman Posts: 2,859
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    "Quote Originally Posted by 67jason View Post
    So all you guys enjoy your gear and keep your beliefs to yourself, because I dont need to hear it."

    That's why i joined the forum as well.To not hear what anybody has to say.
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  • SDA1C
    SDA1C Posts: 2,069
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    Ohh, Ohh, I got one....

    "Yea Yea I know...I need to get some cable management!"

    Me too! Where do you get that stuff these days? Next to the black paint? What you really mean is "Yea Yea...I know, I need to get off my lazy **** and clean my Shi7 up. If I call my gross lack of attention to detail some wacky catch phrase people will think I am more important than I am and I'll be cool like the rest"

    Cable Management? Are you effin kidding me? Sounds like something you would read on the back of an LG T.V somewhere!
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  • tonyb
    tonyb Posts: 32,906
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    Just to set the young lad straight on something. Science didn't prove the world wasn't flat. Someone actually got in a boat and discovered that fact.....experience, they found out for themselves, and thats all we ask of people here.

    I should get a cookie or somethin' for calling this thread early. :cheesygrin:
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  • BlueFox
    BlueFox Posts: 15,251
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    tonyb wrote: »
    Just to set the young lad straight on something. Science didn't prove the world wasn't flat. Someone actually got in a boat and discovered that fact.....experience, they found out for themselves, and thats all we ask of people here.

    That is a good point, and it applies to audio. The science at the time wasn't able to prove the world was round, but later as more discoveries were made science can prove the world is round. Same with audio. Right now we are proving these audible differences with experience, and as more discoveries are made the subtle differences in gear, cables, etc. will be quantifiable with science.
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