B&K vs Emotiva

F1nut wrote: »

Look at all the B&K haters.

Yea because that's the only way you'll know if you've found something good or not Their were a lot of great movies that didn't do well at the box office.

My point is people need to sack up and form their own opinions. Hate it or love it, at least YOU tried it.

audiocr381ve wrote: »

Yea because that's the only way you'll know if you've found something good or not Their were a lot of great movies that didn't do well at the box office.

My point is people need to sack up and form their own opinions. Hate it or love it, at least YOU tried it.

Your absolutely correct, one needs to try different gear to see what floats their boat. But, on the flip side of that, and more to Brocks point, remember the thread on the guy who auditioned the LSI9's and put them on top of his RTI12's ? Then said he didn't like them.

You have to play with a piece of gear for some time to truely evaluate it. Make sure the source is up to snuff, IC cables, letting it warm up first, etc. It's been my experience anyway when it comes to amps, that the quality of the connecting cable is just as important and can change the sound by no small measure. Everything works in harmony and you have to be willing also to make an attempt to find that harmony when changeing out pieces of gear. In the end it still may not be right for you or your system and thats OK, then you just move on.

Amateur.

You didn't even keep the same associated gear when trying all those amps. How is possible to compare them all and make an informed evalutation if you're just being a schizophrenic gear swapper? Leads to very little credibility and why I dismiss most of what you observe.

H9

heiney9 wrote: »

Amateur.

You didn't even keep the same associated gear when trying all those amps. How is possible to compare them all and make an informed evalutation if you're just being a schizophrenic gear swapper? Leads to very little credibility and why I dismiss most of what you observe.

H9

Good. Fine. I'm okay with that.

At the end of the day, I've still owned a lot of gear and still have pieces that haven't been rotated which have been used at almost every evaluation. Like I said, I'm perfectly fine with being an amateur. I have no desire to drop the kind of time, effort, and money the way some do. I'm an average listener with a music background who doesn't need your stamp of approval for my opinions that come from my own experience nor do I need to provide records of exactly how I've formed them.

What are you, the audio IRS or something? Nobody's being misinformed, just offering up personal experience. You need to start being okay with people doing that.

polkfarmboy wrote: »

After i got my ML Vista's in the rig I just decided I really need a new amp. Others say the emo is ok but when you have everything on the high end with the emo amp then you really notice how bad it is, or at least I have. I find the sound to be harsh and thin but at the same time the top end lacks detail. I always thought bright was too much top end but after living with the 5 ch emo in the rig I think once I recover from buying the Vista speakers then I will be going for a B&K mono block 2 ch setup and for multi ch amps i will be looking into theta intrepid's or some Halcro's

The B&K mono's are 250w @8ohm and sell for $450 to $550 a piece

Good, glad you have your own experience to share.

polkfarmboy wrote: »

Well its all subjective and personal taste in the end. no one is wrong and everyone is right

No, their are definitely absolutes. Problem is most people are absolutely crazy.

Why don't we put it this way. Some people like a particular sound. I prefer the warmth of tubes, if not tubes a warm sounding SS like B&K or Carver, or my Exposure which I have had for many years now.

If I wanted a more sterile or neutral sound I would go Rotel, NAD, Parasound (Which can also be warm) or Adcom.

If I wanted a more house sound or in your face sound I would get another Emo or run my stuff off a Receiver. I do not like that type of sound and yes I did try it for almost a year with different speakers (SDA's, EPI, Advent, AR and others) and it never gave me what I wanted. It doesn't make it the worst gear out there but it isn't for me.

To the OP, if you are happy than good on you. If the Emo is the sound your looking for I would suggest you listen and be happy. If you would like to try something along that line of sound that may not be so in your face go for a Rotel or Parasound amp. You won't be disappointed.

Tank,
You can find used B&K amps, 2 even 3 channel for the same price as a used adcom, 5-700 buck range for one in good condition. Maybe less depending. Keep your eyes open buddy boy, they sell quick.

Joe08867 wrote:

If I wanted a more sterile or neutral sound I would go Rotel, NAD, Parasound (Which can also be warm) or Adcom.

Of these I would certainly not classify Rotel and NAD as sterile. Neutral to warm maybe...but not sterile.

shack wrote: »

Of these I would certainly not classify Rotel and NAD as sterile. Neutral to warm maybe...but not sterile.

...As for in the amp "Sterile"?Like an Onkyo sound?Which by the way i find ok...but not for me.Not as much of a finer Mid-too upper Mid range sound like say a Carver or an Emo monoblock.From what i have been reading up on the B&K,Rotel or the Parasound have that more defined sound in the Mids too upper Mids with a (warm) sound too them.I have been looking into the B&K amp(monoblocks)because of there "robust"sound.I had a Onky amp back in the day and it was ok for Rockin the house down "Sterile"in your face kickass amp.Which i call the "Japanese" sound.No pune intened on the "Japanese" just a peraphase.Japanese know the way of the Samari!..

Hi all,

Just bought a B&K 200.7 for my setup this evening. Was told 'twas a showroom demo amp. Heard it there first and I was sold right away. Is $1400 a good price?

Kris