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Drenis
Drenis Posts: 2,871
edited February 2012 in The Clubhouse
You know, I have to vent for a moment.

I was looking at the LSiM bookies contemplating whether I wanted to move to a smaller but better direction in my rig and it got me thinking, I wonder when polk will have more Canadian retailers selling their gear and if there were any other retailers not listed on the website because as I've recently read, some information has yet to be updated as far as authorized retailers and what not. So I call up polk CS and patiently wait for a few moments and start chatting to a young guy. I begin asking my question and you know what I'm told? "Well I can't actually help you with that". He began to tell me that I needed to contact the Canadian rep as to which I piped up and mentioned Walter Moser's name. The guy said yup! I mentioned I already had his number and thanks very much.

So here's my rant:

1. That kind of information, should be posted on the website. If this is the plan for the redesign I've read about, great. If not, incorporate it. Something as simple as a disclaimer to point out that Canadian inquiries (And any other countries if applicable. unsure about that) need to contact so and so or be directed to where we can submit our inquiries. Calling one man long distance to ask questions to is something I don't agree with and that brings me to my second point...

2. Why does polk make Walter look after everything? I know I had to contact him regarding some pieces when I bought my speakers but I don't find it fair to have him answer for everything and anything related to Canada export for polk products. I'm firm on this because I know how busy he is and what the time frame is for a response.

I guess my biggest issue is in the last year, I've seen less and less polk for sale in Canada. We have two store chains in Canada (Future Shop & Visions) that sell polk gear. No one sells any LSi, LSiM or VM equipment here at all. You can't find the Monitor line up anymore that used to be sold on newegg.ca. All you can get is the TSi line up and that's somewhat limited. Subwoofers? Well NONE of the MicroPro's can be found here or the DSW's. PSW series is easy to spot though locally. Hell I can even go look at and listen to the in wall/ceiling lines. As far as I know, there isn't anyone else who sells polk gear.

I'm not going to bug Walter about it as I know he's busy enough handling ALL duties for an entire COUNTRY. I thought he handled warranty issues only.

Anyways...
/end rant
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  • heiney9
    heiney9 Posts: 25,080
    edited February 2012
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    Are you talking about B and M stores? Because the US is in the same boat. I haven't seen a Polk product locally (3rd largest city in Illinois) in over 6 years. Warranty work, no place here to do warranty work.

    The brick and morter stores are a dying breed and the ones left are usually very small speciality stores that sell really high end gear and not much of it. Canada is not unique in this.

    H9
    "Appreciation of audio is a completely subjective human experience. Measurements can provide a measure of insight, but are no substitute for human judgment. Why are we looking to reduce a subjective experience to objective criteria anyway? The subtleties of music and audio reproduction are for those who appreciate it. Differentiation by numbers is for those who do not".--Nelson Pass Pass Labs XA25 | EE Avant Pre | EE Mini Max Supreme DAC | MIT Shotgun S1 | Pangea AC14SE MKII | Legend L600 | BlueSound Node 3 - Tubes add soul!
  • Drenis
    Drenis Posts: 2,871
    edited February 2012
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    Yeah I guess that's what you would call them. We don't use that term up here.

    I was quite frustrated when I wrote that. I guess I just wanted to try new things. I really want to hear the LSi's.
  • heiney9
    heiney9 Posts: 25,080
    edited February 2012
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    You know how I heard my LSi 9's? I bought them off Ebay. There was nowhere around here (again 3rd largest city in IL) to hear them. I spent some time with them and ultimately moved them down the road.

    Dealer's and auditioning is dying and pretty much dead. I have a friend here who I used to work with in Audio a long time ago and he has opened a very small shop with very targeted gear. Mostly Sonos and other computer/whole house solutions. He carries a couple speaker brands and a couple receivers for display. He works basically out of his house and local art gallery. His strict focus is iPod and whole house solutions via computer mostly Mac's. He isn't even making a profit to make it worth it. He does it mostly for fun on the side. He would do it full time if he could make a living at it, but the market just isn't there for enough volume.

    It's a hard game to break into now, and it's dying.

    H9
    "Appreciation of audio is a completely subjective human experience. Measurements can provide a measure of insight, but are no substitute for human judgment. Why are we looking to reduce a subjective experience to objective criteria anyway? The subtleties of music and audio reproduction are for those who appreciate it. Differentiation by numbers is for those who do not".--Nelson Pass Pass Labs XA25 | EE Avant Pre | EE Mini Max Supreme DAC | MIT Shotgun S1 | Pangea AC14SE MKII | Legend L600 | BlueSound Node 3 - Tubes add soul!
  • TECHNOKID
    TECHNOKID Posts: 4,298
    edited February 2012
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    B&M stores unfortunately do not sell large speakers any longer (especially chain type stores). What makes money/sell for them now are SoundBars, SurroundBars and satellites. From cheap Sony, Samsung, LG to more expensive such as Bose, Polk and so on. We actually experienced the death of one of our B&M last year (Auditronic/Dumoulin) so to survive, the remaining chains must adapt and sell only products that goes off the shelves.

    Stores that carries minimal Polk products;

    The Brick has a few in store products such as the blackstone along with a few more online products.

    I've seen Blackstone also at COSTCO (mainly package I believe)

    I also believe I've seen the Blackstone at Future Shop and they still carry towers in store. You can also get some Polk products online from FS.

    Crutchfield.ca is also a source for Polk products.

    Our Canadian laws and the industry ruling makes it harder for Polk to keep a good presence in Canada. You also have to keep in mind our Canadian market is rather small for a company to go trough all this trouble.

    You are very fortunate to have Visions out west as this a Canadian chain that only appears in the west and the ROC is stuck with only FS and BB (which does not carry Polk at all in Canada).

    I"m with you with wanting better Canadian representation from our belove speaker company but IMHO, Polk is not solely to blame for this. There are none of the Canadian manufactured speakers that interest you?
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  • ViperZ
    ViperZ Posts: 2,046
    edited February 2012
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    One of the main reasons I upgraded to different speakers than Polk when I was ready to upgrade from my RT1000p/CS400/R15 setup. I read all these wonderful reviews and rants about LSi. Really wanted to get my ears on LSi15 or 25, and got nowhere.
    Panasonic PT-AE4000U projector for movies
    Carada 106" Precision Series (Classic Cinema White)
    Denon AVR-X3600H pre/pro
    Outlaw 770 7-channel amplifier
    B&W CDM1-SE fronts
    B&W CDM-CNT center
    B&W CDM1 rears on MoPADs
    JBL SP8CII in-ceiling height speakers
    Samsung DTB-H260F OTA HDTV tuner
    DUAL NHT SubTwo subwoofers
    Oppo BDP-93 Blu-Ray player
    Belkin PF60 Power Center
    Harmony 1100 RF remote with RF extender
    Sony XBR-X950G 55" 4K HDR Smart TV + PS3 in the living room
  • Drenis
    Drenis Posts: 2,871
    edited February 2012
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    Thanks for the kind works folks. I just needed to vent. I agree with all of what has been said.
  • Rivrrat
    Rivrrat Posts: 2,101
    edited February 2012
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    Here in Tucson, I haven't seen one good b&m audio store. When I was younger up in Seattle I used to hang out at what I've learned was the holy trinity....The one and only, original Magnolia Hi Fi, Speakerlab (when it was really Speakerlab), and Difinitive Audio (the really hi end shop), all in the same block.

    Those were the days.
    My equipment sig felt inadequate and deleted itself.
  • Systems
    Systems Posts: 14,873
    edited February 2012
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    Not a lot of companies realize Canada even has internet capabilities.:cheesygrin:
    I am just kidding.:cheesygrin:
    I think it is the same everywhere, people buy the cheap HTIB BS and that is it.
    Nearest B&M store to me is 150 miles.
    There is one closer, but they sell crap so I don't even consider them.
    Maybe some day they will resurface, but I doubt it, and until then, it is basically the web that will be supplying what you and I want, or at the very least want to listen to.
    Those days are gone my friend.:evil:
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  • ViperZ
    ViperZ Posts: 2,046
    edited February 2012
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    pepster wrote: »
    Not a lot of companies realize Canada even has internet capabilities.:cheesygrin:
    I am just kidding.:cheesygrin:
    I think it is the same everywhere, people buy the cheap HTIB BS and that is it.
    Nearest B&M store to me is 150 miles.
    There is one closer, but they sell crap so I don't even consider them.
    Maybe some day they will resurface, but I doubt it, and until then, it is basically the web that will be supplying what you and I want, or at the very least want to listen to.
    Those days are gone my friend.:evil:

    The problem with the "web" is that not many vendors from US will ship to Canada, and when they do, we either get dinged with ridiculous "brokerage fees" (i.e. UPS and FedEx), or the shipping will cost an arm and a leg (USPS, but still less than retarded brokerage fees from UPS). And of course it doesn't solve the problem of listening to the speakers before buying them. So we have to resort to our great Canadian speaker brands like Paradigm, Energy, etc.
    Panasonic PT-AE4000U projector for movies
    Carada 106" Precision Series (Classic Cinema White)
    Denon AVR-X3600H pre/pro
    Outlaw 770 7-channel amplifier
    B&W CDM1-SE fronts
    B&W CDM-CNT center
    B&W CDM1 rears on MoPADs
    JBL SP8CII in-ceiling height speakers
    Samsung DTB-H260F OTA HDTV tuner
    DUAL NHT SubTwo subwoofers
    Oppo BDP-93 Blu-Ray player
    Belkin PF60 Power Center
    Harmony 1100 RF remote with RF extender
    Sony XBR-X950G 55" 4K HDR Smart TV + PS3 in the living room