My Onkyo died... Finally!!

Slinger182
Slinger182 Posts: 512
edited October 2011 in Electronics
I've had my 606 for a few years and it's done it's job for the most part. The HDMI inputs were very finicky to say the least and over the past year or so one by one they started to not work no matter what cable or source I was using. Well last night the last one, that I was using for my BDP, stopped working.

I was pretty bummed but found a pretty good deal on a Pioneer 1121. Newegg has em for 450 with the promo code PIO1XX1 if anybody else is interested.

I always liked the way the Onkyo sounded just didn't like the way it operated. If that makes any sense.

I had my eye on an elite sc-35 but since I have plans to add an external amp or an integrated I figured I should save a little on the receiver.

The Pio should be here next week. I'm looking forward to getting it hooked up.:biggrin:
Panny 55-st30 plasma
Pioneer vsx-1121
Parasound 2100 pre
b&k tx4430 amp
Oppo bdp-83
Monster HTS 3500
polk TSi500s Vr3 Fortress modded
polk CS20 center channel Vr3 Castle modded
polk Owm 3 surrounds
polk PSW505
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  • cnh
    cnh Posts: 13,284
    edited October 2011
    Congrats, the Pio is a great replacement for the Onkyo.

    I 'really' wish Onkyo would start putting some FANS in its HDMI sections!! My 805 is still running strong (knock on wood). But I use it, maybe once a week or less! And it has 1 1/2 feet of clearance over it and is 'open' on all sides sitting on the very bottom rung of my entertainment rack! Oh yeah, the 805 has two internal fans on either side of the monster power transformer (where most of the 51 lbs of weight is)...but those fans NEVER come on unless the unit is experiencing a melt-down temp of over 165 degrees. You could almost slow cook a Turkey at that temp.

    Just 'what' are Onkyo Engineers 'thinking' I wonder? Let's see, we make a unit that has a 3-4 year life span and then people will by a new one from us! NOT! I've seen too many Onkyo HDMI boards fail, and everyone here knows that that IS the place where the MOST heat is generated. Just try to keep your hand over that when its operating without getting burned!

    In any case.....Enjoy the new unit!

    cnh
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  • polkfarmboy
    polkfarmboy Posts: 5,703
    edited October 2011
    Sad to hear about the onkyo .My 607 was solid and worked great and now I have a pioneer elite vsx and the hdmi ports are side ways spread out vertically. It sucks because 1 went out then mysteriously the other went out so I'm down to one hdmi input
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  • dvran
    dvran Posts: 280
    edited October 2011
    Is it wrong that I can't wait till my 607 goes bad for an excuse I can give to my wife to buy a new receiver? :wink:
    ~Dan

    Projector: Epson 705HD on 106" DaLite
    TV: Samsung 50" Plasma PN50B550
    Receiver: Onkyo 607
    Fronts: Polk 1000i
    Center: Polk Csi40
    Rears: Polk Fxi30
    Sub: Velodyne Minivee 10
    PS3 and Xbox
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  • cnh
    cnh Posts: 13,284
    edited October 2011
    No, I don't think so. But I hope my Onkyo lives on for years to come.

    cnh
    Currently orbiting Bowie's Blackstar.!

    Polk Lsi-7s, Def Tech 8" sub, HK 3490, HK HD 990 (CDP/DAC), AKG Q701s
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  • EndersShadow
    EndersShadow Posts: 17,687
    edited October 2011
    dvran wrote: »
    Is it wrong that I can't wait till my 607 goes bad for an excuse I can give to my wife to buy a new receiver? :wink:

    Nope, I keep hoping my Integra craps out so I can get a Denon 4311CI with Audysee XT32 :eek:. Especially since I ONLY have 2EQ right now.
    "....not everything that can be counted counts, and not everything that counts can be counted." William Bruce Cameron, Informal Sociology: A Casual Introduction to Sociological Thinking (1963)
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  • polkfarmboy
    polkfarmboy Posts: 5,703
    edited October 2011
    dvran wrote: »
    Is it wrong that I can't wait till my 607 goes bad for an excuse I can give to my wife to buy a new receiver? :wink:

    Why not open the thing up and do a little altering ?
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  • jon s
    jon s Posts: 905
    edited October 2011
    Slinger182 wrote: »
    I've had my 606 for a few years and it's done it's job for the most part. The HDMI inputs were very finicky to say the least and over the past year or so one by one they started to not work no matter what cable or source I was using. Well last night the last one, that I was using for my BDP, stopped working.

    I was pretty bummed but found a pretty good deal on a Pioneer 1121. Newegg has em for 450 with the promo code PIO1XX1 if anybody else is interested.

    I always liked the way the Onkyo sounded just didn't like the way it operated. If that makes any sense.

    I had my eye on an elite sc-35 but since I have plans to add an external amp or an integrated I figured I should save a little on the receiver.

    The Pio should be here next week. I'm looking forward to getting it hooked up.:biggrin:

    you know that the HDMI problem is common on the 606? There is a fix for it... you need to replace 10 caps on the HDMI board. Apparently, Onkyo used cheap low temp caps on the board which dries out from the heat from the HDMI processor. Just replace the bad caps with higher temp caps and it shud be good to go...
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  • BlueFox
    BlueFox Posts: 15,251
    edited October 2011
    cnh wrote: »
    and everyone here knows that that IS the place where the MOST heat is generated.

    Why is the HDMI ports generating much heat? This is the first I have heard that. I just did a Google search for HDMI heat, and there isn't much. Mainly some questions about the cable getting hot due to the +5v running through the cable and the current drawn.
    Lumin X1 file player, Westminster Labs interconnect cable
    Sony XA-5400ES SACD; Pass XP-22 pre; X600.5 amps
    Magico S5 MKII Mcast Rose speakers; SPOD spikes

    Shunyata Triton v3/Typhon QR on source, Denali 2000 (2) on amps
    Shunyata Sigma XLR analog ICs, Sigma speaker cables
    Shunyata Sigma HC (2), Sigma Analog, Sigma Digital, Z Anaconda (3) power cables

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  • jon s
    jon s Posts: 905
    edited October 2011
    BlueFox wrote: »
    Why is the HDMI ports generating much heat? This is the first I have heard that. I just did a Google search for HDMI heat, and there isn't much. Mainly some questions about the cable getting hot due to the +5v running through the cable and the current drawn.

    It's the HDMI chips that are generating the heat... The HDMI processors (especially the HQV series) are complex processors and get extremely hot. On my Onkyo 905/906, the heat is so intense, you cannot leave your hand over the case where the processor is located. Unfortunately, there are no heat sinks attached to the processors and the heat is dispersed to the HDMI circuit board. The low grade capacitors (rated for 85 degrees C) dry and the board fails. Replacement caps should be rated for 105 degrees.

    Link here for repairing the Onkyo 606
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  • BlueFox
    BlueFox Posts: 15,251
    edited October 2011
    I see. It is an Onkyo problen. I misread and thought it was HDMI in general. I never noticed my AVR getting hot, except for when I put the DVD playher on top of it.
    Lumin X1 file player, Westminster Labs interconnect cable
    Sony XA-5400ES SACD; Pass XP-22 pre; X600.5 amps
    Magico S5 MKII Mcast Rose speakers; SPOD spikes

    Shunyata Triton v3/Typhon QR on source, Denali 2000 (2) on amps
    Shunyata Sigma XLR analog ICs, Sigma speaker cables
    Shunyata Sigma HC (2), Sigma Analog, Sigma Digital, Z Anaconda (3) power cables

    Mapleshade Samson V.3 four shelf solid maple rack, Micropoint brass footers
    Three 20 amp circuits.
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  • Slinger182
    Slinger182 Posts: 512
    edited October 2011
    jon s wrote: »
    you know that the HDMI problem is common on the 606? There is a fix for it... you need to replace 10 caps on the HDMI board. Apparently, Onkyo used cheap low temp caps on the board which dries out from the heat from the HDMI processor. Just replace the bad caps with higher temp caps and it shud be good to go...

    I've read about the fix and am planning on giving it a try and giving the 606 to a buddy of mine.

    I've had the 1121 for a couple weeks and have been really impressed with it. It definitely sounds better. My girlfriend even noticed and I hadn't told her that I replaced the receiver. I haven't gotten into the network stuff yet but so far I like MCACC a whole lot more that audyssey.
    Panny 55-st30 plasma
    Pioneer vsx-1121
    Parasound 2100 pre
    b&k tx4430 amp
    Oppo bdp-83
    Monster HTS 3500
    polk TSi500s Vr3 Fortress modded
    polk CS20 center channel Vr3 Castle modded
    polk Owm 3 surrounds
    polk PSW505
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  • jbooker82
    jbooker82 Posts: 1,627
    edited October 2011
    I put a small fan on top of my onkyo because I run it in close quarters.
    AVR: Onkyo Tx-NR808
    Amplifier: Carver A-753x 250 watts x 3
    Fronts: Polk RTI A7 (modded by Trey VR3)
    Center: CSI A4 (modded by Trey VR3)
    Rear: FXI A4
    Sub: Polk DSW Pro 660wi
    TV: LG Infinia 50PX950 3D
    Speaker Cable: AudioQuest Type 8
    IC: AudioQuest Black Mamba II
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