300 to spend, need surge protector

They are both excellent, I have the APC H15 and it's a great unit that does everything and more.

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Sure we are :biggrin:

Is the Panamax in the for sale section still available? I think is was the 5100?? or something? I would buy that one. I have the 5300 and like it alot. Never had any issues with it. Have thought about buying the one in the FS section for my bedroom.

Here is my take between the H15 and PF60. It came down to the AVR (which I really WANTED, not sure it was a NEED). I have bad power, and I know it. But, I've made it this many years without owning anything with the AVR feature.

Technically speaking, the PF60 has better specs, minus the AVR. Also looks better IMO.

What it finally boiled down to was warranty. The only reason I was in the market, was because my Monster bit the dust. Only had a 5 year warranty, and it's been over that. The APC unit has a 5 year, Belkin has lifetime. I didn't want to be in the same situation in another 5 years down the road. That's also why I passed on some APC Smart-UPS units (Sine-wave units) - 3 year warranty, plus the recurring costs of the batteries)

Also I was able to get the Belkin from ProVantage for $137. I would have been all over the H15 for $99, but I haven't even found anything within $150 of that. So - for me it came down to cost and lifetime warranty. I just bought/installed my Belkin 2 weeks ago. Kind of nice that it has a front plug too (although I haven't used it for anything, I like the idea)

Look at the SurgeX line of suppressors... They are used by the military. The SA1810 has 10 industrial grade outlets rated at 10amps each. I have them and have no issues.

SurgeX is the leading manufacturer of premium AC power conditioning products for the professional and residential audio, video, and multi-media marketplace. Our patented technology is built exclusively to properly protect ProAV and home theater equipment from AC surges and electrical transients that can disrupt sound quality and digital performance.

• 100% Fail Safe Protection: For the past twelve years, SurgeX technology has never failed to protect connected equipment, due to an AC surge-related event. That?s a fact.
• Advanced Series Mode? Surge Elimination Technology: Superior to conventional MOV or MOV-Hybrid based technologies, SurgeX technology is completely non-sacrificial and eliminates surge energy without producing harmful side effects such as ground contamination or common-mode disturbances.
• A-1-1 Certified: SurgeX Advanced Series Mode Technology is the first powerline surge elimination technology in the world to be certified Grade A, Class 1, Mode 1. Developed by Underwriters Laboratories, this certification testing is used in U.S. Government guidelines and assures dependable protection from destructive spikes, surges and inductive transients.
• Complete Protection Package: Only SurgeX?s product line provides robust technology that protects ProAV equipment, in more ways than one. Additional SurgeX technology, includes: COVUS Catastrophic Over/Under Voltage Shutdown, Impedance Tolerant EMI/RFI Filtering (both normal and common mode), and ICE Inrush Current Elimination Filtration.
• Government/Education Best Practice: Our entire line meets the most stringent government purchase specifications for powerline surge suppressors and are A-1-1 Certified for all government installations.
• Industry Expertise and Support: Through key relationships with other industry experts, we have become a source of knowledge and assistance for all AC power and grounding issues, not just surge elimination and power conditioning. Our senior staff are all SynAudCon graduates with extensive experience in the professional audio/video industry. Additionally, our chief engineer is a member of the InfoComm Faculty, a full member of the Audio Engineering Society and a member of the AES Standards Committee Working Group on Electromagnetic Compatibility.
• Proven Experience: SurgeX is the most widely used ProAV power protection provider in nationally recognized concert halls, sports areas, and auditoriums. Recent installations include: Carnegie Hall, Dallas Cowboys new 2009 Stadium, Yankees Stadium, and The Kimmel Center.
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Off the top of my head, I can't recall the difference between the PF60 and the 30. I think it's just outlets? Easy enough to find out, but I've done my share of research already. lol

But I would definately recommend checking out Provantage as they were the cheapest price I could find (for the Belkin at least, and I don't believe they were listed on Google shopping searches)

I bought the PF60 2 weeks ago at Buy.com for $119 + $8 shipping. It's installed now and seems like a pretty nice unit. I too was down to the H15 because of the AVR and the PF60. Both have plenty of outlets, same class of filtering, similar joule numbers, etc. but I just couldn't reconcile the $250 versus the $125 difference for AVR capabilities only. My power here is pretty stable (117 - 125) so I was really more concerned with outlets & filtering.

One thing I do like about the Belkin is the "amps being used" readout for each bank of outlets. I have my Carver 705x plugged into the high-current outlet and see no evidence of current being limited. It's somewhat surprising how few amps are being pulled for everything. Of course that probably would be different for someone with multiple amps (or maybe tube equipment). I don't think you could go wrong with either one.

I saw that too. It's the thinner of the 2, with the display in the middle. The thicker one, with the larger display offset to the side is their UPS line. Not sure why they can't figure that out when they post pictures like that (that they are different).



Oh - and not that it matters much, but the front actually says Belkin, rather than Pure l AV

Probably not the best pics without removing it from the rack but maybe it will help.