Emotiva XPA-5 amplifier

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  • kuntasensei
    kuntasensei Posts: 3,263
    edited May 2011
    piker wrote: »
    I'm not telling anyone what they should do here, but for me personally, I bumped up the front stage about 3db and left the surrounds where they were. Now everything sounds more cohesive to my ears. I'm getting more sound out of the front, which is more like how it was before I re-ran Audyssey.

    Maybe I need to go splurge on an SPL meter. That would be things dialed in most accurately, wouldn't it?

    Like I said, Dynamic EQ gradually dials back the surrounds as you turn it louder. So if you balanced it at a certain volume, the balance will be different when you change from that volume. In other words, at 0 (reference level), all channels are at the same level. As you back down from 0, Dynamic EQ gradually bumps up the presence of the surrounds. Audyssey's theory on this is that movies are mixed for reference level, and as you get below reference level, your impression of surround presence rolls off. Personally, I've done a few runs of Audyssey that left my system like what you're describing - too heavy on surrounds. But once you get a tripod and can do a proper run with all positions, I'm willing to bet it will be more balanced.

    Regardless, if it sounds good to you, that's what matters. Don't get too hung up on whether it strictly adheres to reference standards.
    Equipment list:
    Onkyo TX-NR3010 9.2 AVR
    Emotiva XPA-3 amp
    Polk RTi70 mains, CSi40 center, RTi38 surrounds, RTi28 rears and heights
    SVS 20-39CS+ subwoofer powered by Crown XLS1500
    Oppo BDP-93 Blu-ray player
    DarbeeVision DVP5000 video processor
    Epson 8500UB 1080p projector
    Elite Screens Sable 120" CineWhite screen
  • EndersShadow
    EndersShadow Posts: 17,689
    edited May 2011
    piker wrote: »
    Maybe I need to go splurge on an SPL meter. That would be things dialed in most accurately, wouldn't it?

    It would help greatly. I would suggest the analog one over the digital (although I bought the digital myself) since its more accurate I believe.
    "....not everything that can be counted counts, and not everything that counts can be counted." William Bruce Cameron, Informal Sociology: A Casual Introduction to Sociological Thinking (1963)
  • piker
    piker Posts: 101
    edited May 2011
    I got the SPL meter. Now do you suggest resetting the AVR to stock before using it? Or should I just re-run Audyssey and then use the SPL afterwards to tweak things?
    AVR: Onkyo TX-NR808
    Amp: Emotiva XPA-5 200 watts x 5
    Fronts: Polk Monitor 70 Series II
    Center: Polk CS2 Series II
    Surrounds: Polk Monitor 70 Series II
    Sub: HSU VTF-2 MK4
    HDTV: 73" Mitsubishi DLP-73740 3D-ready
    PS3, 2x XBOX 360, Wii U, Gaming PC.
  • EndersShadow
    EndersShadow Posts: 17,689
    edited May 2011
    piker wrote: »
    Rre-run Audyssey and then use the SPL afterwards to tweak things?

    ^This. Once Audyssey has set everything, use the SPL meter to dial every speaker independently to 75 SPL. I believe it will be under levels in your AVR.
    "....not everything that can be counted counts, and not everything that counts can be counted." William Bruce Cameron, Informal Sociology: A Casual Introduction to Sociological Thinking (1963)
  • kuntasensei
    kuntasensei Posts: 3,263
    edited May 2011
    I strongly recommend that you not use the receiver's internal tones with the SPL meter. Get a calibration disc, turn off Dynamic EQ, then check each channel with a test disc and make note of how much boost/cut each channel needs. This lets you measure the post-equalization level of each channel instead of the non-equalized noise tone that you'll get from the internal test tones. Once you have them all balanced that way, re-enable Dynamic EQ.

    Again, you have to disable Dynamic EQ before calibrating with a disc because it raises surround presence as you get lower than reference.
    Equipment list:
    Onkyo TX-NR3010 9.2 AVR
    Emotiva XPA-3 amp
    Polk RTi70 mains, CSi40 center, RTi38 surrounds, RTi28 rears and heights
    SVS 20-39CS+ subwoofer powered by Crown XLS1500
    Oppo BDP-93 Blu-ray player
    DarbeeVision DVP5000 video processor
    Epson 8500UB 1080p projector
    Elite Screens Sable 120" CineWhite screen
  • piker
    piker Posts: 101
    edited May 2011
    I think I'm going to have to do it again the way you mentioned kuntasensei. First I tried after running Audyssey and then using the receivers built-in test tones but that seems flawed. I was able to get a reading of 0dB on the front sound stage but the rear sound stage wasn't even close, even though those sound louder to me.

    I'll try the Digital Video Essentials disc I have.

    It seems really hard to get everything dialed in right ever since I got this amp. I like the amp, but dang is it frustrating to find the right balance between all speakers.
    AVR: Onkyo TX-NR808
    Amp: Emotiva XPA-5 200 watts x 5
    Fronts: Polk Monitor 70 Series II
    Center: Polk CS2 Series II
    Surrounds: Polk Monitor 70 Series II
    Sub: HSU VTF-2 MK4
    HDTV: 73" Mitsubishi DLP-73740 3D-ready
    PS3, 2x XBOX 360, Wii U, Gaming PC.
  • williamgauci
    williamgauci Posts: 88
    edited May 2011
    I have been saving up for a few months eating bag lunches and putting the saving to my "Amp Fund". It's the only way I could get the wife to let me scratch my upgrade fever.

    Anyhow, I've been checking reviews on the XPA-5 and I have been wondering if it's worth the sacrifice. I'm glad to see that some people feel so. It's going to be a couple more months before I get to pull the trigger, but I'm looking forward to seeing how it improves the system. I am looking at the amp first with the intention of upgrading to some bigger floor standing RTi-7's and I figure trying to power them off of my older receiver is a waste of money.

    Glad to see that you're happy with the purchase Piker. Hopefully I'll be able to add my impressions soon. Lastly, I'm not sure about the odyssey setup, but I know my Yamaha settings were way different from my SPL setup. The SPL was made a big improvement in the over all sound.
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    Yamaha 6080 Emotiva XPA-5 CSi A6 RTiA-7's RTi A1's Velodyne DLS-4000R
  • BigA524
    BigA524 Posts: 63
    edited May 2011
    I was running an onkyo with some rti10s. I didnt think I was gettin mucj oyt of the speakers until i bout the xpa3. I feel the same way as piker. Clean clear sound. For music on my end you def need a sub. The speakers for me dont put enough bass on my end.
    For me the crossover is set at 100hz. I think it sounds better. Enjoy that emo. I play the system pretty much everyday no matter what I listening to.
    Marantz 1607 - Polk S60 - S35 - Emotiva XPA-3 - Polk DSWPRO550wi