Oppo bdp-95
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I'll tell ya my personal experience: my first BD player is a Panasonic DMP-BD35K, then I moved up to the Oppo BDP-83, upgraded it to BDP-83SE, sold that and currently use a BDP-93, is trying to sell it since I already bought the BDP-95. That means I've gone through all Oppo BD players, and the BDP-93 video output beat the hell out of the BDP-83 (http://www.polkaudio.com/forums/showthread.php?p=1471759#post1471759). I was so excited with it that a month ago I brought it to my uncle's home who was running a Samsung bluray player BD-P1600. We did an A/B comparison which convinced him more than enough to go ahead and placed an order for the BDP-93 right at that point. That's how great the Oppo BDP-93's video output is.
If you decide to go with the BDP-93, look in our Flea Market, I got one listed there :biggrin:
it's all good to me,I don't regret, paying $999...tax $1,0023
If you don't do 2-channel or utilize the 7.1-channel analog output, which means you simply use the HDMI connection for both audio/video, you won't need to upgrade at all. The reason I am upgrading to the BDP-95 is because I run 2-channel in my Zone2, and the BDP-93 isn't adequate.
Currently whenever I want to ask the BDP-93 to output audio signal to Zone2 2-channel, I have to go into its Audio Processing menu to downmix the output to "Stereo", and I mean each and every time, not just one and done. That little issue made me miss my Oppo BDP-83SE so much, but now that the BDP-95 came out, I would be happy again :biggrin:
it's all good to me,I don't regret paying $999...tax $1,0023PolkAudioClyde -
The 95 looks very Impressive, I wonder how the Balanced outs compare to my
Esoteric DV-50 on SACD. I know that the Video will smoke my Pany DMP-BD85K.
Believe me.hey,check it out for your self.PolkAudioClyde -
HDCD IS SO MUCH BETTER THAN SACD,in my opinion.
How many SACD's do you have to compare with? Does HDCD have multi channel?
There are some who only are interested in two channels on SACD. I find multi channel can be quite enjoyable. Just my opinion.Front - Polk LSiM 705, Center - Polk LSiM 704c, Rear - Polk LSi 7
Subwoofer - Epik Legend
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Television - 58" Samsung Plasma PN58B860
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Are you saying it costs over a $1K dollar to ship? Or the total price is over a $1K? That would make sense since its MSRP is $999.
Yeah it came up to 1043 ish shipped to me. Just wondering what improvement I would see over the 83 via HDMI before I pull the plug.Shoot the jumper.....................BALLIN.............!!!!!
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Yeah it came up to 1043 ish shipped to me. Just wondering what improvement I would see over the 83 via HDMI before I pull the plug.
The whole point of the 95 is to use its analog outs for either 2-channel or multichannel. Only using the 95 via HDMI would not make sense.
If you were to make an upgrade to the 83 and only use HDMI, then the 93 is your unit of choice.
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I wonder how the 93 with a external dac would compare to the 95?
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I wonder how the 93 with a external dac would compare to the 95?
One point that I have wondered about is whether Bluray music files can be decoded by an external DAC, or if they are like SACD and have a DRM scheme.Lumin X1 file player, Westminster Labs interconnect cable
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Shunyata Sigma HC (2), Sigma Analog, Sigma Digital, Z Anaconda (3) power cables
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I wonder how the 93 with a external dac would compare to the 95?
Depends on the external DAC.
I went down that road with my Oppo 83 - bought an external DAC (Bel Canto DAC-2) thinking that a $1K new DAC (got if for a sweet price used on 'gon) would crush and slay my CA 640c2 CDP.....nope.....not in my rig for my tastes.
Results may have been different with a different DAC.
If I were looking for a single player that does BD, CD, SACD and wanted to get close to 'high end' analog AQ - the 95 seems to be the mark.
From what all I've been able to sift thru on the AVS thread, the jury is still out as to whether a 95 is better than a dedicated high end CDP or SACD player.....close....but to some the 95 still falls a tad short against some players.
But that by itself says alot for a $1K player that does practically everything except toast
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for a small amount you would pay for a LED,LCD... Fully 3D
I doubt your 2-year-old DLP supports Full HD signals for both eyes Gears shared to both living room & bedroom:
Integra DHC-80.3 / Oppo BDP-105 / DirecTV HR24 DVR /APC S15blk PC-UPS
Living room:
LSiM707's / LSiM706c / LSiM702 F/X's / dual JL Audio Fathom F113's / Parasound Halo A51 / Panasonic 65" TC-P65VT50
Bedroom:
Usher Dancer Mini 2 Diamond DMD's / Logitech SB Touch / W4S STP-SE / W4S DAC-2 / W4S ST-1000 / Samsung 52" LN52B750
Other rooms:
Audioengine AP4's / GLOW Audio Sub One / audio-gd NFB-3 DAC / Audioengine N22
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Erik Tracy wrote: »The whole point of the 95 is to use its analog outs for either 2-channel or multichannel. Only using the 95 via HDMI would not make sense.
If you were to make an upgrade to the 83 and only use HDMI, then the 93 is your unit of choice.
Thanks for sharing this Erik. I knew the 95 was to supposed to have a better analog section. I may go ahead and order the 93 then and go from there. That 95 is a gorgeous looking machine though.Shoot the jumper.....................BALLIN.............!!!!!
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How many SACD's do you have to compare with? Does HDCD have multi channel?
There are some who only are interested in two channels on SACD. I find multi channel can be quite enjoyable. Just my opinion.
it's good brother,I just like HDCD Better,to my ears, anyway.PolkAudioClyde -
I doubt your 2-year-old DLP supports Full HD signals for both eyes
It looks good to me brother,especially with a new bulb.The "comass" cable guy came over and looked at the picture quality of my DLP,he said,I have never seen a TV that big, soo beautiful and bright.it's a great TV.Now,back to what you were saying.Full HD,What is it, 1080p? I'm serious and still learning,I really don't care about 3D,right now.But I tell you what, Mr. DMara,I do love those samsung LED's,but mine will run neck to neck with the best of them.PolkAudioClyde -
It looks good to me brother,especially with a new bulb.The "comass" cable guy came over and looked at the picture quality of my DLP,he said,I have never seen a TV that big, soo beautiful and bright.it's a great TV.Now,back to what you were saying.Full HD,What is it, 1080p? I'm serious and still learning,I really don't care about 3D,right now.But I tell you what, Mr. DMara,I do love those samsung LED's,but mine will run neck to neck with the best of them.
Full HD =1080p/24 & 1080p/60 or the new stuff with frame interpolation(creation) 1080p/120Shoot the jumper.....................BALLIN.............!!!!!
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It looks good to me brother,especially with a new bulb.The "comass" cable guy came over and looked at the picture quality of my DLP,he said,I have never seen a TV that big, soo beautiful and bright.it's a great TV.Now,back to what you were saying.Full HD,What is it, 1080p? I'm serious and still learning,I really don't care about 3D,right now.But I tell you what, Mr. DMara,I do love those samsung LED's,but mine will run neck to neck with the best of them.
You said you bought a 3D TV DLP two years ago and claimed it's fully 3D. Well, I'm just teasing you that it's not really that, i.e. it probably wouldn't be able to send a separate 1920 x 1080 full-HD image to each eye. Do some more research and you will see most old 3D TVs can only send a 720p image to one eye and a 1080p image to the other.Gears shared to both living room & bedroom:
Integra DHC-80.3 / Oppo BDP-105 / DirecTV HR24 DVR /APC S15blk PC-UPS
Living room:
LSiM707's / LSiM706c / LSiM702 F/X's / dual JL Audio Fathom F113's / Parasound Halo A51 / Panasonic 65" TC-P65VT50
Bedroom:
Usher Dancer Mini 2 Diamond DMD's / Logitech SB Touch / W4S STP-SE / W4S DAC-2 / W4S ST-1000 / Samsung 52" LN52B750
Other rooms:
Audioengine AP4's / GLOW Audio Sub One / audio-gd NFB-3 DAC / Audioengine N22
audio-gd NFB-10.2 / Denon AH-D7000 -
Full HD =1080p/24 & 1080p/60 or the new stuff with frame interpolation(creation) 1080p/120
My TV have those same features,,when I read in the owner's manual about the 1080p/24 didn't understand it,therefore I leave the settings on 1080p.PolkAudioClyde -
My TV have those same features,,when I read in the owner's manual about the 1080p/24 didn't understand it,therefore I leave the settings on 1080p.
Got any pics of your setup?
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Every year OPPO goes up in price. is this one worth $1000?
The first OPPO I bought was like $269
You are looking at it backwards. Oppo's selling point was higher price performance at a lower price. The real question is; Is the $1000 player equal, or better than, other manufacturer's 2K-3K players.Lumin X1 file player, Westminster Labs interconnect cable
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Magico S5 MKII Mcast Rose speakers; SPOD spikes
Shunyata Triton v3/Typhon QR on source, Denali 2000 (2) on amps
Shunyata Sigma XLR analog ICs, Sigma speaker cables
Shunyata Sigma HC (2), Sigma Analog, Sigma Digital, Z Anaconda (3) power cables
Mapleshade Samson V.3 four shelf solid maple rack, Micropoint brass footers
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Ok, So what's the answer?
The same Dac that's in the OPPO 95 is in a $10,000 McIntoush<spell check< stand alone CD player. I just did a google.there's a lot of infomation about this Dac. I feel good, Paid only a $1000 for a $10,000 Player. that's the way to look at it.PolkAudioClyde -
I guess for me it's not worth it because my expensive gear is in a room with no TV and only 2 channels.
In my living room where I have a TV and am only using the TV's speakers for sound.
For me I think the unit would be wasted.
Tv speakers? Helloooooo............is Las around? It's going to rain on your head for that one bro. :biggrin:
J/K bro.Shoot the jumper.....................BALLIN.............!!!!!
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Every year OPPO goes up in price. is this one worth $1000?
The first OPPO I bought was like $269
That would be the question for me. It seems past my price point. It was stretching to get the OPPO 83. I would be guessing that the DAC's would really be that much better. I can get a Blu Ray player that plays SACD's for $100.Front - Polk LSiM 705, Center - Polk LSiM 704c, Rear - Polk LSi 7
Subwoofer - Epik Legend
Receiver (as Preamp) - Sony STR-DA3400 ES
Amplifier - Outlaw 7125
Television - 58" Samsung Plasma PN58B860
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I guess for me it's not worth it because my expensive gear is in a room with no TV and only 2 channels.
In my living room where I have a TV and am only using the TV's speakers for sound.
For me I think the unit would be wasted.
You may have reach your Godly satisfaction.I have seen pictures of your gear and YouTube video.What else do you need to add to your already, great system.PolkAudioClyde -
look under 2 channel> I'm in two channel heaven and there you will find picsGot any pics of your setup?
ThanksPolkAudioClyde -
Thanks. But a true audiophile is never done. So many things to upgrade to. All MIT wires. A pair of one off Bob Carver Mono Tube Amps. That'll be a good start. Only need another 10 to 12k. LOL!
Then maybe I'll get the OPPO. I'd like to try a Jolida CD Player first though.
Sal
You are not the only one...I would Love to own A pair of Bob Carver's Mono Tube Amps. what's the cost now-days?PolkAudioClyde -
I feel good, Paid only a $1000 for a $10,000 Player. that's the way to look at it.
You are dreaming.
Man, I love my Oppo, but that McIntosh player is in another league altogether. The transport and analog section of the Oppo could be greatly improved upon. I think it's a great player at it's price point. In fact I think it's value is unsurpassed. But it ain't no giant killer.-Kevin
HT: Philips 52PFL7432D 52" LCD 1080p / Onkyo TX-SR 606 / Oppo BDP-83 SE / Comcast cable. (all HDMI)B&W 801 - Front, Polk CS350 LS - Center, Polk LS90 - Rear
2 Channel:
Oppo BDP-83 SE
Squeezebox Touch
Muscial Fidelity M1 DAC
VTL 2.5
McIntosh 2205 (refurbed)
B&W 801's
Transparent IC's -
You are dreaming.
Man, I love my Oppo, but that McIntosh player is in another league altogether. The transport and analog section of the Oppo could be greatly improved upon. I think it's a great player at it's price point. In fact I think it's value is unsurpassed. But it ain't no giant killer.
it's simple,the oppo has the same dac,that McIntosh have,at least in that area they are equal...do a blind test and you couldn't tell the difference.PolkAudioClyde -
it's simple,the oppo has the same dac,that McIntosh have,at least in that area they are equal...do a blind test and you couldn't tell the difference.
The DAC, while important, is only a small part of the system. How jitter free is the transport? How regulated is the power supply? How heavy is the chassis? How good is the analog section? How good are the connectors? There are beaucoup things that can affect the final sound.Lumin X1 file player, Westminster Labs interconnect cable
Sony XA-5400ES SACD; Pass XP-22 pre; X600.5 amps
Magico S5 MKII Mcast Rose speakers; SPOD spikes
Shunyata Triton v3/Typhon QR on source, Denali 2000 (2) on amps
Shunyata Sigma XLR analog ICs, Sigma speaker cables
Shunyata Sigma HC (2), Sigma Analog, Sigma Digital, Z Anaconda (3) power cables
Mapleshade Samson V.3 four shelf solid maple rack, Micropoint brass footers
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it's simple,the oppo has the same dac,that McIntosh have,at least in that area they are equal...do a blind test and you couldn't tell the difference.
Nothing in this hobby is simple. But if simple mindedness is what you are about then you win. I won't debate this with you except to say that everything matters and where digital sources are concerned, DAC's are only a third of the total equation (and I'm being generous). Analog section and transport mechanism have a role in the overall sound and that is where the Oppo falls short. Believe me when I say I could most definitely hear a difference in a blind comparison. I have an ARC CD3 that absolutely smokes my Oppo with redbook audio. SACD is a different story, the ARC does not do SACD.-Kevin
HT: Philips 52PFL7432D 52" LCD 1080p / Onkyo TX-SR 606 / Oppo BDP-83 SE / Comcast cable. (all HDMI)B&W 801 - Front, Polk CS350 LS - Center, Polk LS90 - Rear
2 Channel:
Oppo BDP-83 SE
Squeezebox Touch
Muscial Fidelity M1 DAC
VTL 2.5
McIntosh 2205 (refurbed)
B&W 801's
Transparent IC's -
I understand the Oppo 'luv' alot folks have (still have and 'luv' my 83).
I applaud their willingness to put time and effort into a player with better analog performance.
The buzz is that it offers very good performance at its price point.
But after that - I wouldn't make any generalizations.
Any comparisons need to be player vs player - not DAC vs DAC or RCA vs XLR or anything else that does not include the whole player as a unit.
And even then it should still come down to each person deciding for themselves in their rig what they like better.
I'm tempted to give the 95 a try myself. If it is better, then I could turn some components and come out ahead!
But...I'll let my own ears decide.
H9: If you don't trust what you are hearing, then maybe you need to be less invested in a hobby which all the pleasure comes from listening to music. -
Nothing in this hobby is simple. But if simple mindedness is what you are about then you win. I won't debate this with you except to say that everything matters and where digital sources are concerned, DAC's are only a third of the total equation (and I'm being generous). Analog section and transport mechanism have a role in the overall sound and that is where the Oppo falls short. Believe me when I say I could most definitely hear a difference in a blind comparison. I have an ARC CD3 that absolutely smokes my Oppo with redbook audio. SACD is a different story, the ARC does not do SACD.
Amen vc69PolkAudioClyde
