Luxman tp114 or tp117

fhurricane1000
fhurricane1000 Posts: 12
edited November 2010 in Electronics
Hi, looking to buy one of these preamp/tuners. Can anyone tell me if there is any differences other than year, and which one you would get. I will be pairing it up to a Luxman M375 amp. Thank you..
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  • AudioGenics
    AudioGenics Posts: 2,567
    edited November 2010
    is there a significant difference in cost between the 2 pre ?
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  • fhurricane1000
    fhurricane1000 Posts: 12
    edited November 2010
    They're priced about the same.
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  • AudioGenics
    AudioGenics Posts: 2,567
    edited November 2010
    luxman made great equipment.

    trying to look up the spec sheets on these
    but it come down to personal preference anyway

    don;t think you can go wrong.
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  • Ron Temple
    Ron Temple Posts: 3,212
    edited November 2010
    I have the TP114 and bluecomet has/had the 117. The 114 is a nice sounding unit, but I believe the 117 might be a dual tuner with a zone B and is the more expensive piece. I was given mine, but the 114 might be found for ~ $100, the 117 ~ $200, if you can find either. I think they sold for close to a grand or slightly higher new.

    Combo rig:

    Onkyo NR1007 pre-pro, Carver TFM 45(fronts), Carver TFM 35 (surrounds)
    SDA 1C, CS400i, SDA 2B
    PB13Ultra RO
    BW Silvers
    Oppo BDP-83SE
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  • fhurricane1000
    fhurricane1000 Posts: 12
    edited November 2010
    I couldn't find any specs on the 117 or 114. So I really appreciate any and all input. Thank you Ron T.
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  • Ron Temple
    Ron Temple Posts: 3,212
    edited November 2010
    I have the manual somewhere. I'll post the specs when I find it.

    Combo rig:

    Onkyo NR1007 pre-pro, Carver TFM 45(fronts), Carver TFM 35 (surrounds)
    SDA 1C, CS400i, SDA 2B
    PB13Ultra RO
    BW Silvers
    Oppo BDP-83SE
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  • fhurricane1000
    fhurricane1000 Posts: 12
    edited November 2010
    It will be greatly appreciated..
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  • Ron Temple
    Ron Temple Posts: 3,212
    edited November 2010
    Output voltage:
    Rated (Variable) 1.0V
    Fixed 300mV
    Max 8V

    THD:
    At 2V output 20hz-20khz = 0.007%
    At 8V output 1khz = 0.007%

    IM distortion:
    At 2V out 0.005%

    Input Sensitivity/Impedence:
    Phono (MM) 2.5mV/47k ohms
    CD/Tape, Aux, AV 150mV/47k ohms

    Input Overload:
    Phono(MM) 150mV
    CD, Tape, Aux, AV 9V

    S/N ratio (re 2V out, IHF-A)
    Phono(MM) 82db (re 5 mV)
    CD, Tape, Aux, AV 100db (re 0.5V

    Frequency Response:
    Phono RIAA 20-20khz (+/- 0.5db)
    CD, Tape, Aux AV 3hz - 180khz (+/- 3db)

    Tone Control Range:
    Bass +/- 10db @ 100hz
    Treble +/- 10db @ 10khz

    Subsonic filter:
    Turnover Freq 18hz
    Slope - 6db/octave

    Loudness Compensation:
    + 6db @ 100hz
    + 4dv @ 10khz

    I'm leaving out the tuner section...

    General:
    Power Supply: AC 120V/60hz
    Power Consumption: 9.5W
    Dims: 17 1/4" X 4 3/5" X 13"

    Weight: 11lbs net

    I use it as a 2 channel pre, it's extremely transparent, better than any AVR pre I've used (duh) and really likes to be paired with a Luxman M-117 or warmer amps...I'm using a Carver TFM 35 with it now.

    Combo rig:

    Onkyo NR1007 pre-pro, Carver TFM 45(fronts), Carver TFM 35 (surrounds)
    SDA 1C, CS400i, SDA 2B
    PB13Ultra RO
    BW Silvers
    Oppo BDP-83SE
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  • bluecomet
    bluecomet Posts: 1,118
    edited November 2010
    I have both the TP 114 and the TP 117. The TP117 was way ahead of it's time. It can play two amps front and back at the same time. The tuner on it is one of the best made in that time period. You can do many things with the 117. The manual is huge. The one thing with the TP117 is that you need the Luxman remote that goes with it to operate it properly. Without it you will not be able to access some of it's capabilities. The TP114 is a very good pre amp but is not dual zone and does not have as good of a tuner built in. You can only use one amp with it. The one plus is that it will work with a generic remote. If you have the chance to buy a TP117 with remote for the same price of the TP114 then it is a no brainer to choose the TP117. Without the remote go with the TP114. Either way you will be getting a quality pre amp. With both of my Luxman pre amps I use Luxman M117 amps and really enjoy the combination. You can tell they were built for each other. I have also used Carver amps with my Luxman pre amps and they work well together also.
    Polk HT system 1: LSIC, LSI25 mains, LSI F/X rears, Lsi F/X rear centers,
    Yamaha RX-V2500 System, Carver A753 3 channel amp.

    Polk HT system 2: , SRT system with f/x 1,000's rear speakers on 7.1 system currently using Onkyo TX-RZ820 receiver, powered by Sunfire Grand Theater amp

    Polk Speaker collection: SDA SRS 1.2tl x 2, SRT system, SDA SRS 2 P/B, SDA 2A, SDA 1C Studio, SDA CRS+, Monitor 7B & 4, SRS 3.1tl, RTA 15tl, LS90, LSI 9
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  • fhurricane1000
    fhurricane1000 Posts: 12
    edited November 2010
    Bluecomet your post was extremely helpful. Thanks again bluecomet and Ron Temple.
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