Bobsama's HTPC

Bobsama
Bobsama Posts: 526
edited September 2010 in Electronics
disneyjoe7 wrote: »
Bob good luck with yours I like the case nice and small.

Today I picked up this local, about $10 more.

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16814150467&cm_re=radeon_hd_5670-_-14-150-467-_-Product

Also replaced hd master with a sata considered a ssd but too much local, I may do a small one for virtual memory swapping if needed down the road. So since I replaced the windows 7 drive, it was very nice to see the new video card has a hdmi video output on the power up. Nice card. :)
:( It didn't go so well. I ran into issues with spacing. The overriding issue was that the CPU fan was a centimeter too close to the front of the chassis. My slightly-longer-than-your-average-Lite-On-DVD-burner-BD-ROM. Long story short, the extra centimeter meant that the CPU fan blocked the drive cage from getting in. A bit of finicking let me get the cage in but the nthe CPU fan blocked the SATA power connector from, well, connecting. I also had an issue with getting the stock HSF mounted--the board was rather flexy so I had to take it all apart and remove the board to get the HSF in.

Right now, it's up and running. I removed the BD-ROM and replaced it with my (~3-year-old) DVD burner. That burner fit just fine. At least right now, the Samsung Eco F2 1.5TB drive is working fine.

I have run into an issue with Windows 7 and sleep mode. I have a remote control, wireless keyboard, and wireless mouse attached to the desktop. When I try to Sleep the computer, it goes to sleep for about a minute and then resumes. I disabled the auto-wake for tasks option and it continues to do so. And of course, NT6 has become even more crippled than NT5 in that we can no longer (easily) select which devices can or will wake a computer.

What I need is for the mouse to not wake the computer. The keyboard and remote control should be the only devices that can wake it.

Anyone want to give me some help with this? It's my first HTPC build and I am quickly running out of time: I'm leaving for New England on Saturday morning.

Everything else seems to be working fine. The new TV is arriving tomorrow and I suppose that the Polk SurroundBar 50 will be ordered within the next week. I have a feeling that, come Thanksgiving or Christmas, I'll be rebuilding the HT & HTPC.


As a review, here are the specs...
Bobsama wrote: »
I've actually in the middle of building an HTPC right now. I'll rattle off what I'm using...

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16819116264
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16856119021
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http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16822152175
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http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16823201035
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I replaced the Lite-On BD-ROM with a Lite-On DVD Burner. I am using Transcend JetRAM 2GB DDR2 800. I am also using Windows 7 Professional 64-bit.
polkaudio Monitor 5 Series II
polkaudio SDA-1 (with the SL1000)
TEAC AG-H300 MK III stereo receiver
beyerdynamic DT-880 Premium (600 Ω) headphones
SENNHEISER HD-555 headphones
Little Dot MK IV tube headphone amp
Little Dot DAC_I balanced D/A converter
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  • cseils
    cseils Posts: 10
    edited September 2010
    Does your wireless mouse have an on/off switch? I have this issue occasionally when I tell mine to sleep then I bump the desk getting up, turning it off is the best way for me to get around that. Not sure you can tell Windows to not wake on mouse movement, its a pretty standard input.
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  • Zeros
    Zeros Posts: 940
    edited September 2010
    Are you sure it is being awakened by the keyboard or mouse? If WOL (wake on lan) is enabled it could be network data that is waking the computer up.
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  • Bobsama
    Bobsama Posts: 526
    edited September 2010
    Yes, and it was firmly off. Same with the keyboard. It's not connected to the LAN either--all that's connected is the HDMI out, two USB, the S/PDIF Coax Out, and (naturally) power. I don't know what's causing it to keep waking up but it's bloody annoying at a minimum. I set it to Hibernate (it seems to be shutting down entirely instead) and it won't wake to mouse or keyboard or remote.
    polkaudio Monitor 5 Series II
    polkaudio SDA-1 (with the SL1000)
    TEAC AG-H300 MK III stereo receiver
    beyerdynamic DT-880 Premium (600 Ω) headphones
    SENNHEISER HD-555 headphones
    Little Dot MK IV tube headphone amp
    Little Dot DAC_I balanced D/A converter
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  • Zeros
    Zeros Posts: 940
    edited September 2010
    What are the two USB things? Try unplugging them and see if it still wakes up.
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  • Bobsama
    Bobsama Posts: 526
    edited September 2010
    Both are entirely necessary. One is the keyboard & mouse dongle and the other is the IR receiver.
    polkaudio Monitor 5 Series II
    polkaudio SDA-1 (with the SL1000)
    TEAC AG-H300 MK III stereo receiver
    beyerdynamic DT-880 Premium (600 Ω) headphones
    SENNHEISER HD-555 headphones
    Little Dot MK IV tube headphone amp
    Little Dot DAC_I balanced D/A converter
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  • cokewithvanilla
    cokewithvanilla Posts: 1,777
    edited September 2010
    there are settings under device manager>[device]>power management to choose whether or not the device can wake the computer.

    cmd> powercfg -lastwake will tell you which device woke the computer, you can then disable waking from that device.
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  • Bobsama
    Bobsama Posts: 526
    edited September 2010
    It's apparently "USB Composite Device" that is waking the computer. However, that's not on the "powercfg -devicequery wake_armed" list and it won't let me disabled it with the command. I did disable LAN & mouse, though. I realize that's probably the keyboard & mouse's dongle, though I suppose it could be the memory card reader or the very presence of the frontside ports.
    polkaudio Monitor 5 Series II
    polkaudio SDA-1 (with the SL1000)
    TEAC AG-H300 MK III stereo receiver
    beyerdynamic DT-880 Premium (600 Ω) headphones
    SENNHEISER HD-555 headphones
    Little Dot MK IV tube headphone amp
    Little Dot DAC_I balanced D/A converter
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  • cokewithvanilla
    cokewithvanilla Posts: 1,777
    edited September 2010
    try to disable EVERY device it allows to wake (including the remote and keyboard, if applicable) and then if it doesn't wake itself, start enabling them one by one to find out what is doing it.
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  • Bobsama
    Bobsama Posts: 526
    edited September 2010
    I found what it was/is. Apparently, somehow, the IR receiver is receiving some sort of input. Nevermind that the remote is sitting on the top of the table doing nothing out sight of the receiver. It just randomly blinks. I'll try some other stuff but does anyone know a fix? I'm alone in the house so it's not like it's a cruel trick or something.
    polkaudio Monitor 5 Series II
    polkaudio SDA-1 (with the SL1000)
    TEAC AG-H300 MK III stereo receiver
    beyerdynamic DT-880 Premium (600 Ω) headphones
    SENNHEISER HD-555 headphones
    Little Dot MK IV tube headphone amp
    Little Dot DAC_I balanced D/A converter
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  • cokewithvanilla
    cokewithvanilla Posts: 1,777
    edited September 2010
    Bobsama wrote: »
    I found what it was/is. Apparently, somehow, the IR receiver is receiving some sort of input. Nevermind that the remote is sitting on the top of the table doing nothing out sight of the receiver. It just randomly blinks. I'll try some other stuff but does anyone know a fix? I'm alone in the house so it's not like it's a cruel trick or something.

    you sure the remote isn't broken? Mine certainly doesn't do that. If you leave the PC on, and go into the software that recognize the IR signals (the one that allows you to change what they do), does it recognize the signal being sent? Is it from the remote (pull the batteries), or some other IR device?
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  • Bobsama
    Bobsama Posts: 526
    edited September 2010
    What program might let me see what signals are sent? I have noticed no effects while using WMC though the dongle still lights up a little bit.
    polkaudio Monitor 5 Series II
    polkaudio SDA-1 (with the SL1000)
    TEAC AG-H300 MK III stereo receiver
    beyerdynamic DT-880 Premium (600 Ω) headphones
    SENNHEISER HD-555 headphones
    Little Dot MK IV tube headphone amp
    Little Dot DAC_I balanced D/A converter
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  • cokewithvanilla
    cokewithvanilla Posts: 1,777
    edited September 2010
    The remote should have come with some software to program the buttons.
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  • Bobsama
    Bobsama Posts: 526
    edited September 2010
    cokewithvanilla wrote: »
    The remote should have come with some software to program the buttons.
    It's a Rosewill thing and is a basic WMCE remote. All functions were pre-programmed. Now then, I removed the batteries from the MC remote and I noted that the receiver blinked afterward. I removed the batteries from the new TV's remote (a remote that wasn't here yesterday. It seems that the receiver's stopped blinking, though I'm curious if it'll keep sleeping now.

    EDIT: Batteries back into both TV & MC remotes and it seems fine for the moment...
    polkaudio Monitor 5 Series II
    polkaudio SDA-1 (with the SL1000)
    TEAC AG-H300 MK III stereo receiver
    beyerdynamic DT-880 Premium (600 Ω) headphones
    SENNHEISER HD-555 headphones
    Little Dot MK IV tube headphone amp
    Little Dot DAC_I balanced D/A converter
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  • cokewithvanilla
    cokewithvanilla Posts: 1,777
    edited September 2010
    That really only gives you two options: stop the device from sending random signals or disable the remote from waking the pc.
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  • Zeros
    Zeros Posts: 940
    edited September 2010
    Could the receiver be picking up IR from something else? Maybe IR leak from a plasma nearby or the IR port on a laptop? I had a Thinkpad that had an IR port that would make my IR receiver blink like crazy even when the laptop wasn't in use.
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  • Bobsama
    Bobsama Posts: 526
    edited September 2010
    Zeros wrote: »
    Could the receiver be picking up IR from something else? Maybe IR leak from a plasma nearby or the IR port on a laptop? I had a Thinkpad that had an IR port that would make my IR receiver blink like crazy even when the laptop wasn't in use.
    What do you mean--from a plasma nearby? Plasma TVs cause interference? Right now, there's a limited number of things on.

    I removed batteries from all the remotes. All laptops are off. Only the desktop, new 54" plasma TV, and MCE remote are on...
    polkaudio Monitor 5 Series II
    polkaudio SDA-1 (with the SL1000)
    TEAC AG-H300 MK III stereo receiver
    beyerdynamic DT-880 Premium (600 Ω) headphones
    SENNHEISER HD-555 headphones
    Little Dot MK IV tube headphone amp
    Little Dot DAC_I balanced D/A converter
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  • Zeros
    Zeros Posts: 940
    edited September 2010
    yes, plasmas give off and IR signal when they are on. Usually it can interfere with how well a remote works, but I doubt it is causing your HTPC to wake.

    Here's a link about plasma / IR leak:

    http://www.avsforum.com/avs-vb/showthread.php?t=1062076
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  • disneyjoe7
    disneyjoe7 Posts: 11,435
    edited September 2010
    Don't know what too add here Bob, but I can say Windows 7 is going to sleep by itself. Wakes up only if power button which is on the tuner 2250 card remote. This connects to the tuner card and isn't usb, now saying that. Working ok on my end with parts I have now, but not 100% yet either. My 1080i or 720p doesn't fill screen leaving a 1" all around, and is a off brightness I sure it's a driver issue.

    Speakers
    Carver Amazing Fronts
    CS400i Center
    RT800i's Rears
    Sub Paradigm Servo 15

    Electronics
    Conrad Johnson PV-5 pre-amp
    Parasound Halo A23
    Pioneer 84TXSi AVR
    Pioneer 79Avi DVD
    Sony CX400 CD changer
    Panasonic 42-PX60U Plasma
    WMC Win7 32bit HD DVR


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  • cokewithvanilla
    cokewithvanilla Posts: 1,777
    edited September 2010
    disneyjoe7 wrote: »
    Don't know what too add here Bob, but I can say Windows 7 is going to sleep by itself. Wakes up only if power button which is on the tuner 2250 card remote. This connects to the tuner card and isn't usb, now saying that. Working ok on my end with parts I have now, but not 100% yet either. My 1080i or 720p doesn't fill screen leaving a 1" all around, and is a off brightness I sure it's a driver issue.

    Windows 7 has many power settings. I made mine so it doesn't sleep unless I tell it to. Mines 100%. The inch you are missing can be gained by overscan correction.
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  • Bobsama
    Bobsama Posts: 526
    edited September 2010
    I didn't know about the IR leak.

    I have Windows 7 set to sleep after 4 hours and, iirc, hibernate after 6. My issue is that "USB Composite Device" is causing the computer to wake. Windows 7 won't let me disable the device's ability to wake the computer and it's not listed as wake-armed. Yes, I am running CMD in admin mode.

    I am also running into the brightness issue whenever I change windows. The video also seems to be fuzzy and shimmering. I did use Overscan to bring the picture (roughly) to the edge of the screen.

    The TV is a Panasonic TC-P54G25--a 54" Viera G25 plasma HDTV.
    polkaudio Monitor 5 Series II
    polkaudio SDA-1 (with the SL1000)
    TEAC AG-H300 MK III stereo receiver
    beyerdynamic DT-880 Premium (600 Ω) headphones
    SENNHEISER HD-555 headphones
    Little Dot MK IV tube headphone amp
    Little Dot DAC_I balanced D/A converter
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