Belkin PF60 or APC H15...?

buccidiego
buccidiego Posts: 75
edited July 2010 in Electronics
Any feedback or experiences on which of these Power Conditioners would be a better fit for a Home Theater System? (quality, durability, value, features, price)

Thanks for your insights...
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  • Conradicles
    Conradicles Posts: 6,370
    edited June 2010
    I just purchased the APC H15 and have nothing but good things to say about this unit. Quality feels top notch for that price point, extremely durable, the price I paid was an incredible value and it has all the features one could want for most H/T applications.
    The dimming feature is really sweet.

    No experience with that particular Belkin, so I can not comment there.
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  • acmf74
    acmf74 Posts: 937
    edited June 2010
    I agree with Conradicles....

    Great unit and price.
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  • fujicat
    fujicat Posts: 18
    edited June 2010
    I have 2 PF60 for over 3 years and no problems
    SDA SRS, 3.1TL, 2B, SDA CRS, Outlaw Sub
    Carver TMF and SAE amps, Panny projector
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  • gfong
    gfong Posts: 1,079
    edited June 2010
    I have the APC H10 and it is great, I live in an older place and with the certain combo of equipment on, the APC kicks in and ups the voltage as required.
    It instantly cleared up my cable tv signal but not sure what it did for the sound as I had also made some minor changes to my system at the same time.

    I know the APC H15 has more features then the H10 but they operate on the same premise.
    Plenty of hook-ups and receptacles on the back, sharp design. In my opinion the voltage control is an advantage over the other brand as it allows for voltage sags & swells.
    Higly recommended!
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  • acmf74
    acmf74 Posts: 937
    edited June 2010
    Anyone here use the Coax/RF connectors in the back?

    (having a line from the cable box and the out to the tv?)

    wouldn't this weaken the signal since it has to pass through the box?
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  • gfong
    gfong Posts: 1,079
    edited June 2010
    I am using the coax (into house) from the cable provider to the APC H10 and then to the providers cable box and I thought it may not work good or it would make the signal weaker.
    I tired it and it greatly sharpened the SD channels and improved the HD channels!
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  • Ric5811
    Ric5811 Posts: 400
    edited June 2010
    I posted a review of the PF 60 a few days ago.

    http://www.polkaudio.com/forums/showthread.php?t=102836
    Polk RTi A7's FrontPolk CSi A4 CenterPolk Tsi 100's SurroundOnkyo TX-RZ50:)Oppo BDP 83 (Collecting dust)MIT Terminator 3 Speaker CableMIT Terminator 2 IC's (Oppo 2 chan)Signal Cable HT TWOEpson PowerLite Home Cinema 1080Hisense 55 U8GBelkin PF 60 Power Center
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  • Des Moines
    Des Moines Posts: 115
    edited June 2010
    Ric5811 wrote: »
    I posted a review of the PF 60 a few days ago.

    Ric, did you compare the APC when you were researching the Belkin?
    HT in Progress
    Receiver - Harmon Kardon AVR520 5.1
    Fronts - Polk SDA 1C
    Center - Polk CS350
    Monitor - Sharp Aquos LCD
    NMT - Mede8er500x
    Cables - Signal Ultra
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  • Ric5811
    Ric5811 Posts: 400
    edited June 2010
    Des Moines wrote: »
    Ric, did you compare the APC when you were researching the Belkin?

    Yeah, I looked at a lot of protectors, the Belkin has a higher joule rating, plus you can monitor each bank independently, or as a whole. Even has a reset fuse. Plus it also has a front outlet, which comes in handy. so a total of 13 outlets.
    Polk RTi A7's FrontPolk CSi A4 CenterPolk Tsi 100's SurroundOnkyo TX-RZ50:)Oppo BDP 83 (Collecting dust)MIT Terminator 3 Speaker CableMIT Terminator 2 IC's (Oppo 2 chan)Signal Cable HT TWOEpson PowerLite Home Cinema 1080Hisense 55 U8GBelkin PF 60 Power Center
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  • abc5
    abc5 Posts: 32
    edited June 2010
    hey there, any you folks that own the pf60 can tell me one quick thing... how much watts does the unit itself draw, with nothing plugged into it pls?
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  • buccidiego
    buccidiego Posts: 75
    edited June 2010
    Thanks for the inputs.....all of them useful
    I finally got a used APC H15 $ 130 shipped....let's see how it works
    I'll post my experiences later on
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  • LessisNevermore
    LessisNevermore Posts: 1,519
    edited June 2010
    abc5 wrote: »
    hey there, any you folks that own the pf60 can tell me one quick thing... how much watts does the unit itself draw, with nothing plugged into it pls?

    An insignificant amount.
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  • acmf74
    acmf74 Posts: 937
    edited June 2010
    gfong wrote: »
    I am using the coax (into house) from the cable provider to the APC H10 and then to the providers cable box and I thought it may not work good or it would make the signal weaker.
    I tired it and it greatly sharpened the SD channels and improved the HD channels!

    I did that and the difference was quite substantial.

    Awesome. :cool:
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  • Conradicles
    Conradicles Posts: 6,370
    edited June 2010
    acmf74 wrote: »
    I did that and the difference was quite substantial.

    Awesome. :cool:

    Wow, really? I have never tired that. Guess I should give that a try soon.
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  • abc5
    abc5 Posts: 32
    edited June 2010
    LessisNevermore wrote: »
    An insignificant amount.

    what is insignificant though?

    more than 4 watts is significant to me, because i'm in the northeast and electricity is expensive... and i have alot of other devices drawing idle juice 24/7/365.
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  • LessisNevermore
    LessisNevermore Posts: 1,519
    edited June 2010
    abc5 wrote: »
    what is insignificant though?

    more than 4 watts is significant to me, because i'm in the northeast and electricity is expensive... and i have alot of other devices drawing idle juice 24/7/365.

    I posed the question to Belkin, I'll let you know what the response is.
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  • Ric5811
    Ric5811 Posts: 400
    edited June 2010
    Conradicles wrote: »
    I just purchased the APC H15 and have nothing but good things to say about this unit. Quality feels top notch for that price point, extremely durable, the price I paid was an incredible value and it has all the features one could want for most H/T applications.
    The dimming feature is really sweet.

    No experience with that particular Belkin, so I can not comment there.

    Except that it looks like a old comcast cable box!:D
    Polk RTi A7's FrontPolk CSi A4 CenterPolk Tsi 100's SurroundOnkyo TX-RZ50:)Oppo BDP 83 (Collecting dust)MIT Terminator 3 Speaker CableMIT Terminator 2 IC's (Oppo 2 chan)Signal Cable HT TWOEpson PowerLite Home Cinema 1080Hisense 55 U8GBelkin PF 60 Power Center
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  • abc5
    abc5 Posts: 32
    edited June 2010
    Conradicles wrote: »
    I just purchased the APC H15 and have nothing but good things to say about this unit. Quality feels top notch for that price point, extremely durable, the price I paid was an incredible value and it has all the features one could want for most H/T applications.
    The dimming feature is really sweet.

    No experience with that particular Belkin, so I can not comment there.

    nice, where'd you buy it from, and for how much?
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  • Conradicles
    Conradicles Posts: 6,370
    edited June 2010
    abc5 wrote: »
    nice, where'd you buy it from, and for how much?

    I got mine here:
    http://www.vanns.com/shop/servlet/item/features/753629642/apc-h15?s_c=site_search
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  • abc5
    abc5 Posts: 32
    edited June 2010
    looks like 279$. thought you got it for a deal. thanks for link though.
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  • Conradicles
    Conradicles Posts: 6,370
    edited June 2010
    I got mine on clearance for much, much cheaper....

    Keep a look at their clearance items that come with a full warranty.
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  • gfong
    gfong Posts: 1,079
    edited June 2010
    abc5 wrote: »
    looks like 279$. thought you got it for a deal. thanks for link though.

    B&H has it for 209 free delivery. You have to add it to your cart to get the 209 price!

    I got the H10 two weeks ago, it is the lower model of the H15. I paid 199 and now they go and lower the price of the H15! Bad timming on my part! :(

    They are nice pieces!
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  • buccidiego
    buccidiego Posts: 75
    edited June 2010
    I got it for $110 but used...in good condition though
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  • abc5
    abc5 Posts: 32
    edited June 2010
    gfong wrote: »
    B&H has it for 209 free delivery. You have to add it to your cart to get the 209 price!

    I got the H10 two weeks ago, it is the lower model of the H15. I paid 199 and now they go and lower the price of the H15! Bad timming on my part! :(

    They are nice pieces!


    yes, looks like 208.xx but i could not see free shipping?, and i have to pay tax though.
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  • abc5
    abc5 Posts: 32
    edited June 2010
    does the H15 draw what kind of wattage for itself when nothing else is connected into it, btw?
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  • gfong
    gfong Posts: 1,079
    edited June 2010
    abc5 wrote: »
    yes, looks like 208.xx but i could not see free shipping?, and i have to pay tax though.

    It was on with free shipping and now they have changed it. I was going to go with the H15 but it was $75.00 more and now it is only 9 dollars more but they have dropped the free shipping!
    Sorry for the confussion on this one! You can get the H10 with free shipping but you will pay $199. for it! :)
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  • dfledezma
    dfledezma Posts: 148
    edited June 2010
    I didn´t want to create a new thread about this, but I´m looking for a surge protector. Been thinking on the belkin PF30 and the APC AV 15 Amp G Type Rack Power Filter. How do these compare to the PF60 and the H15? Any suggestions in this price range, 100 dollars more or less??

    thanks
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  • miner
    miner Posts: 1,305
    edited June 2010
    I picked up my H15 new from Audio Advisors for $149 - had to be the silver face for this price though.
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  • heiney9
    heiney9 Posts: 25,487
    edited June 2010
    abc5 wrote: »
    does the H15 draw what kind of wattage for itself when nothing else is connected into it, btw?

    Well of course it does, unless it's powered off. Nothing to even worry about and I got a big chuckle about your "4 watts is significant" statement.

    H9
    "Appreciation of audio is a completely subjective human experience. Measurements can provide a measure of insight, but are no substitute for human judgment. Why are we looking to reduce a subjective experience to objective criteria anyway? The subtleties of music and audio reproduction are for those who appreciate it. Differentiation by numbers is for those who do not".--Nelson Pass Pass Labs XA25 | EE Avant Pre | EE Mini Max Supreme DAC | MIT Shotgun S1 | Puritan Audio PSM136 Pwr Condtioner & Classic PC's | Legend L600 | Roon Nucleus 1 w/LPS - Tubes add soul!
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  • abc5
    abc5 Posts: 32
    edited June 2010
    miner wrote: »
    I picked up my H15 new from Audio Advisors for $149 - had to be the silver face for this price though.

    hi, you just picked it up or was that price a long time ago?
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