MFSL classical SACD's......long OOP

F1nut
F1nut Posts: 51,700
edited June 2010 in For Sale (FS) Classifieds
Ok, tonight I have two, long OOP, MFSL classical SACD's for sale. Both are Mint+ in every way, played once and stored in a sealed **** bag ever since. You could not tell them from brand new sealed except that they don't have the factory wrapper.

Ravel/Bolero/LaValse - Skrowaczewski on MFSL, UDSACD 4002

I found one brand new for $220.00. Used, in like new condition for $170.00. Used, with a cut out hole drilled thru it for $110.00.

I'm asking $140.00 plus $8.00 for insured shipping in the 48.

Mussorgsky/Pictures at an Exhibition/Night on Bald Mountain - Slatkin on MFSL, UDSACD 4004

This one is going for $90.00 brand new. Used, in only very good condition for $70.00.

I'm asking $60.00 plus $6.00 shipping in the 48.


PayPal is preferred, check if I know you.
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  • hearingimpared
    hearingimpared Posts: 21,136
    edited June 2010
    Both are excellent recordings! Great prices too; I could only wish. Good luck Jess.

    BTW they both are goose bump raising material!
  • swb502
    swb502 Posts: 112
    edited June 2010
    I fancy classical music but a 200 CD seems nuts, so whats special about SACD? Is the quality jump really that much?
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  • Hawkeye
    Hawkeye Posts: 1,313
    edited June 2010
    IF your gear and EAR are trained to listen to a high quality recording, by all means buy this this. If not, go to BB :D

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  • TroyD
    TroyD Posts: 13,124
    edited June 2010
    swb502 wrote: »
    I fancy classical music but a 200 CD seems nuts, so whats special about SACD? Is the quality jump really that much?

    If you don't know what SACD is all about, there are other places to strike up that discussion....in a thread where someone is trying to sell something, ain't it.

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  • F1nut
    F1nut Posts: 51,700
    edited June 2010
    Friday night bump for all you guys with fat wallets from your paycheck. :D
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  • F1nut
    F1nut Posts: 51,700
    edited June 2010
    Just in case someone is waiting for the prices to drop, don't hold your breath. :D
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  • hearingimpared
    hearingimpared Posts: 21,136
    edited June 2010
    Hahaha! Well that settles that!:eek::D
  • mshan242700
    mshan242700 Posts: 823
    edited June 2010
    I believe high price reflects that they may be collector's items for some.
  • hearingimpared
    hearingimpared Posts: 21,136
    edited June 2010
    I believe high price reflects that they may be collector's items for some.

    Ding ding ding!!! We have a winner! However, the prices Jesse has posted for those SACD's ARE NOT high. Try to get them on-line. I could only wish to buy them.

    Bumpity bump bump.;)
  • F1nut
    F1nut Posts: 51,700
    edited June 2010
    Ravel/Bolero/LaValse - Skrowaczewski on MFSL, UDSACD 4002

    I found one brand new for $220.00. Used, in like new condition for $170.00. Used, with a cut out hole drilled thru it for $110.00.

    Well, the $220.00 new one and the two used at $170.00 sold. You can still buy the one with the hole drilled thru it or get a perfect one from me for a mere $140.00.
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  • F1nut
    F1nut Posts: 51,700
    edited June 2010
    Here's a few reviews.

    Ravel, Minnesota, Skrowaczewski: Ravel: Bolero; La Valse; etc. [Hybrid SACD]
    Remember the brief, good old days of quad? Various labels, Vox included, were experimenting with ways to get four channel sound out of the long-playing vinyl platter. I believe the old USA RCA label had a discrete four channel system that actually cut four separate channels into the otherwise 2-sided LP groove. This meant you had to have a special cartridge/needle combo to safely ride and reproduce the four tracks cut into the groove. Never took off. Others, EMI and Vox among them choose the matrixed sound path, rather like the ways FM radio was matrixing a stereo signal into its carrier waves, so that your home receiver could decode it down to two channels in your home.

    A complete set of the Ravel orchestral music was recorded in Minnesota with the era's music director, Stanislav Skrowaczewski. Like the golden era recordings of the old Mercury Golden Presence label, the engineers adopted a deliberate minimalist miking strategy. Once they found what they thought was the sweet spot, they just left the microphones alone, and let Ravel and the orchestra do the rest. Then we got these wonderful performances, highly lauded from the moment they hit the streets, on vinyl with four channels of matrixed sound. You could listen in regular stereo, or if you had the matrix decoder, get four.

    Now we are really well into the surround sound era, thanks mainly to how home theater got all of us to finally upgrade our hardware. Since we already have the equipment for movies, and now for HD television; we have little reason not to let our music collections into the mix. And, voila. These master tapes revive, standing up to something like their original audible stature, thanks to the new high resolution Superaudio format. Pentatone is doing something similar to what Mobil Fidelity is doing here, with those almost forgotten quad master tapes; and what a nice surprise - the sound couldn't be better.

    The Minnesota Orchestra of the era wasn't particularly known for its French tradition or influences as such. If anything, the Boston Symphony had inherited that crown prince designation when Koussevitsky arrived from Paris, bringing star French players with him. Then Pierre Monteux, Charles Munch helped maintain that legacy once the big K was gone. The Jean Martinon period in Chicago never really took root, and so as time passed, the Montreal Symphony and Charles Dutoit inherited the nomination for outstanding French orchestra outside of France. Nevertheless, these are utterly superb captures of a sophisticated Ravelian orchestral fabric - replete with finesse, sheen, silver - all polished to high gloss. This will remind one perhaps of the famous Hall of Mirrors at Versailles, reflecting light in all directions. And raising almost metaphysical questions of just what is real, and what is reflection, in the cross-hatch of all the refracted light.

    Skrowaczewski knows well enough to let Ravel speak, without intruding. No mannerisms or oddities mar the music, either at the musical surfaces or in the melancholy or grotesque, subtle depths lurking beneath their polish. Tempos are consistently well chosen for the piece at hand. Some may at first hear the warhorse Bolero at too slow a pace, but comparison with the extant old version conducted by the composer in person would show that this slower, more languorous tempo is what Ravel himself adopted. There is still plenty of flash and fire in this Bolero, but also lots of that French intoxication with all things North African. Tourists are still going to far places to smoke kif and indulge in love-making with the local service industry that still knows where to find them.

    Whatever you may think of French tourists smoking kif or the more hedonistic undergrounds in the North African tourist industry - As music: This is all simply marvelous to hear, especially in surround sound that finally yields up for our ears what has been sleeping on these old master tapes, all along.

    Of course, this disc offers more than Bolero done with a slow, knowing hand that feels what it is reaching out to touch, namely, you. The Rhapsody, La Valse, Pavane, and Daphnis et Chloe suite no. 2 are the real point. Each of these works is simply so fine that they make Ravel's case as one of the acknowledged Great Composers of the West, all over again. What a felicity that Vox had the imagination and guts to go to Minneapolis, and get all this down, just when the other major labels had seemingly forgotten that Minnesota ever had a great orchestra. These Ravel performances will wear extremely well, no matter who else does them in surround sound and high resolution superaudio or dvd-audio. The only sad thing about this disc is when it inevitably ends, having played through. One could only have wished that Vox had been willing to get the full score of Daphnis from these sessions, the recording of the suites is so very finely done.

    (You will find a second equally fine disc from these Minnesota sessions, also in surround sound superaudio from Mobile Fidelity. Plus, you can get their St. Louis sessions with Walter Susskind, which captured a very fine Smetana cycle of Ma Vlast, along with a rich and dramatic vision of Holst's Planets suite for large orchestra. Do not diss Susskind, by the way, because he was highly regarded by other musicians, including the likes of Ginette Niveau, Heifitz, Rubinstein, Milstein, Firkusny, Ricci, and Artur Schnabel. Nor is St. Louis confined to being a regional band: it is one of USA's oldest orchestras.)

    Five stars. Is that enough? Hardly. This disc and its companion are simply among the true peaks in the mountain ranges of the history of recorded music. They may be equaled, but probably will never be bettered. Very highly recommended. Indeed.

    Mussorgsky - Pictures At An Exhibition Ultradisc UHR™ Multichannel SACD
    Pictures At An Exhibition remains one of classical music's most popular, colorful and enduring works as does what is usually viewed as a companion piece, the orchestral version of "Night On Bald Mountain." This historic Vox recording of Leonard Slatkin conducting the St. Louis Symphony is a bold, stellar recording of both of these pieces. The tonality of the instruments is mesmerizing, excellent and, even in stereo, the sense of space is nothing less than amazing. Slatkin also brings to life the famous ballet "Dance Of The Persian Slaves" from Mussorgsky's opera, "Khovanschina". For the original 1975 sessions, specifically mic'd for surround, Slatkin also put his distinctive stamp on Borodin's "In The Steppes Of Central Asia." Each piece, be it joyously melodic or darkly menacing, is the result of maestro and ensemble working perfectly together.

    Mobile Fidelity Sound Lab maintains the resounding success of its debut surround series with this jewel from the illustrious Vox catalog on its critically acclaimed Ultradisc UHR SACD series. The full sonic spectrum of this masterpiece is finally unveiled as four channels of stunning detail, lifelike imaging and in-depth ambient information that enables listeners to experience the producer's original sonic intention for the first time. Mobile Fidelity Sound Lab's GAIN 2™ (Greater Ambient Information Network) mastering process enables the maximum amount of musical information to be extracted from an ORIGINAL MASTER RECORDING and delivers to classical aficionados and high resolution surround enthusiasts alike as a dual-layer hybrid SACD. This Ultradisc UHR SACD features 4.0 surround sound and a new illustrated booklet with the original liner notes written by Richard Freed plus additional technical information.


    Thanks to the rabbit for the above.
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  • F1nut
    F1nut Posts: 51,700
    edited June 2010
    Mussorgsky is sold.

    Ravel is still available.
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  • hearingimpared
    hearingimpared Posts: 21,136
    edited June 2010
    I'm glad to see it went for you Jess although I feel a great loss!;) BTW whoever bought is going to have two inch high goosebumps!
  • F1nut
    F1nut Posts: 51,700
    edited June 2010
    Sunday bump.
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  • hearingimpared
    hearingimpared Posts: 21,136
    edited June 2010
    Bolero is an amazing piece of work!
  • Hawkeye
    Hawkeye Posts: 1,313
    edited June 2010
    PM sent.

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  • F1nut
    F1nut Posts: 51,700
    edited June 2010
    Reply sent.
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  • hearingimpared
    hearingimpared Posts: 21,136
    edited June 2010
    Atta guy Gordo!
  • F1nut
    F1nut Posts: 51,700
    edited June 2010
    Ravel is SOLD, thanks!
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  • hearingimpared
    hearingimpared Posts: 21,136
    edited June 2010
    Glad to hear but once again green with envy!:(:eek::D

    Two folks are going to be really enjoys some masterpieces with great sonics!
  • Hawkeye
    Hawkeye Posts: 1,313
    edited June 2010
    I'm looking forward to hearing it in a couple days.

    1 of the Geriatrics:D
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  • hearingimpared
    hearingimpared Posts: 21,136
    edited June 2010
    Hawkeye wrote: »
    I'm looking forward to hearing it in a couple days.

    1 of the Geriatrics:D

    WAAAAAAAAAAAAA!!!!!!!!!:rolleyes::D