3-5 hungie on an avr

K-daugh
K-daugh Posts: 467
edited June 2010 in Electronics
:D:):confused:ok say you have three to five hundred dollars to spend on an avr......it must have pre-outs.....must have at least 7.1....is being used for mainly ht.....powering polk monitor line .... which direction do you go in??????use specifics......
Budget 5.1 H.T. Set Up
HK avr 247 - Adcom GFA-7605:mrgreen::mrgreen: - Belkin PF60 Power Conditioner - Cs2 center channel - Monitor 60's fronts - Monitor 30's rears
Mirage Bps 150i powered sub - 40"Samsung LCD ln40c530 - Sony Blu Ray Player BDP-S370 - Comcast digital hd box(motorola dcx3400)
Monoprice Premium Interconnects Monoprice Ultra Slim HDMI w/Redmere:mrgreen: -Knukonceptz Kord 10 Gauge Speaker Wire - Nakamichi Banana Plugs
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  • Erik Tracy
    Erik Tracy Posts: 4,673
    edited June 2010
    K-daugh wrote: »
    :D:):confused:ok say you have three to five hundred dollars to spend on an avr......it must have pre-outs.....must have at least 7.1....is being used for mainly ht.....powering polk monitor line .... which direction do you go in??????use specifics......

    Used....audiogon.com

    H9: If you don't trust what you are hearing, then maybe you need to be less invested in a hobby which all the pleasure comes from listening to music.
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  • K-daugh
    K-daugh Posts: 467
    edited June 2010
    oh and one more thing......must have hdmi:D
    Budget 5.1 H.T. Set Up
    HK avr 247 - Adcom GFA-7605:mrgreen::mrgreen: - Belkin PF60 Power Conditioner - Cs2 center channel - Monitor 60's fronts - Monitor 30's rears
    Mirage Bps 150i powered sub - 40"Samsung LCD ln40c530 - Sony Blu Ray Player BDP-S370 - Comcast digital hd box(motorola dcx3400)
    Monoprice Premium Interconnects Monoprice Ultra Slim HDMI w/Redmere:mrgreen: -Knukonceptz Kord 10 Gauge Speaker Wire - Nakamichi Banana Plugs
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  • Jetmaker737
    Jetmaker737 Posts: 1,123
    edited June 2010
    Here:

    http://www.polkaudio.com/forums/showthread.php?t=102195
    SystemLuxman L-590AXII Integrated Amplifier|KEF Reference 1 Loudspeakers|PS Audio Directream Jr|Sansui TU-9900 Tuner|TEAC A-6100 RtR|REL T/9X SE Sub
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  • Sherardp
    Sherardp Posts: 8,038
    edited June 2010
    Used but here

    http://cgi.ebay.com/PIONEER-ELITE-SC-05-SC05-7-1-RECEIVER-lightly-used-/250649694406?cmd=ViewItem&pt=Receivers_Tuners&hash=item3a5be2d0c6
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  • K-daugh
    K-daugh Posts: 467
    edited June 2010
    when i said use specifics i meant use specific reasons why you would choose that avr
    Budget 5.1 H.T. Set Up
    HK avr 247 - Adcom GFA-7605:mrgreen::mrgreen: - Belkin PF60 Power Conditioner - Cs2 center channel - Monitor 60's fronts - Monitor 30's rears
    Mirage Bps 150i powered sub - 40"Samsung LCD ln40c530 - Sony Blu Ray Player BDP-S370 - Comcast digital hd box(motorola dcx3400)
    Monoprice Premium Interconnects Monoprice Ultra Slim HDMI w/Redmere:mrgreen: -Knukonceptz Kord 10 Gauge Speaker Wire - Nakamichi Banana Plugs
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  • Sherardp
    Sherardp Posts: 8,038
    edited June 2010
    Search the forum for Icepower, Iceamp, Iceclub, and you should find some good reads.
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    Home Theater Pics in the Showcase :cool:

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  • heiney9
    heiney9 Posts: 25,487
    edited June 2010
    K-daugh wrote: »
    when i said use specifics i meant use specific reasons why you would choose that avr

    Do a search, rather than demanding. Your question has been asked atleast a hundred times in the past year. All the info and specifics you want are already here. The thing is many of us get tired of people asking the same exact questions over and over and over and over and when you're not willing to search the archives for your own answer, people aren't going to respond yet again.

    IMO, you can't get much for $300, even used.

    H9
    "Appreciation of audio is a completely subjective human experience. Measurements can provide a measure of insight, but are no substitute for human judgment. Why are we looking to reduce a subjective experience to objective criteria anyway? The subtleties of music and audio reproduction are for those who appreciate it. Differentiation by numbers is for those who do not".--Nelson Pass Pass Labs XA25 | EE Avant Pre | EE Mini Max Supreme DAC | MIT Shotgun S1 | Puritan Audio PSM136 Pwr Condtioner & Classic PC's | Legend L600 | Roon Nucleus 1 w/LPS - Tubes add soul!
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  • K-daugh
    K-daugh Posts: 467
    edited June 2010
    Understandable...... didn't think of that
    Budget 5.1 H.T. Set Up
    HK avr 247 - Adcom GFA-7605:mrgreen::mrgreen: - Belkin PF60 Power Conditioner - Cs2 center channel - Monitor 60's fronts - Monitor 30's rears
    Mirage Bps 150i powered sub - 40"Samsung LCD ln40c530 - Sony Blu Ray Player BDP-S370 - Comcast digital hd box(motorola dcx3400)
    Monoprice Premium Interconnects Monoprice Ultra Slim HDMI w/Redmere:mrgreen: -Knukonceptz Kord 10 Gauge Speaker Wire - Nakamichi Banana Plugs
    Custom Jumpers
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  • heiney9
    heiney9 Posts: 25,487
    edited June 2010
    K-daugh wrote: »
    Understandable...... didn't think of that

    I'm not busting your balls, just some friendly advice as there is a lot of info out there already. Maybe if you find some older threads then you can ask some specific questions.

    You will be hard pressed to get HDMI, 7.1 and pre-outs for $300.

    Denon
    Onkyo
    Pioneer
    HK

    all seem to get good marks, so it's a matter of what bells and whistles you can get in your budget. The HK seems a little warmer sounding than the others. This might be a consideration as the Polk Monitor line can have a tendency to be on the bright side.

    I'm not into HT, just solid 2 channel so that's about all the advice I can give at this point.

    H9
    "Appreciation of audio is a completely subjective human experience. Measurements can provide a measure of insight, but are no substitute for human judgment. Why are we looking to reduce a subjective experience to objective criteria anyway? The subtleties of music and audio reproduction are for those who appreciate it. Differentiation by numbers is for those who do not".--Nelson Pass Pass Labs XA25 | EE Avant Pre | EE Mini Max Supreme DAC | MIT Shotgun S1 | Puritan Audio PSM136 Pwr Condtioner & Classic PC's | Legend L600 | Roon Nucleus 1 w/LPS - Tubes add soul!
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  • mdaudioguy
    mdaudioguy Posts: 5,164
    edited June 2010
    http://stores.ebay.com/Harman-Audio
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  • cstmar01
    cstmar01 Posts: 4,424
    edited June 2010
    here are a few. Personally I would save up a bit more and get a Pioneer or used Onkyo but thats just me.

    http://cgi.videogon.com/cgi-bin/cl.pl?rcvr71ch&1279716208&&&/Yamaha-RXV665BL

    http://cgi.videogon.com/cgi-bin/cl.pl?rcvr71ch&1279902333&&&/YAMAHA-RXV567

    http://cgi.videogon.com/cgi-bin/cl.pl?rcvr71ch&1278898395&&&/ONKYO-TXSR508

    http://cgi.videogon.com/cgi-bin/cl.pl?rcvr71ch&1276020508&&&/ONKYO-TXSR608

    http://cgi.videogon.com/cgi-bin/cl.pl?rcvr71ch&1276019807&&&/Pioneer-VSX1020K

    http://cgi.videogon.com/cgi-bin/cl.pl?rcvr71ch&1274733737&&&/Marantz-SR-60001


    Now the problem with a lot of these is they don't have pre outs meaning that if you ever wanted to run an amp you can't. A lot of lower end AVR's don't have them. Also some of the older ones lack DD True HD, DTS Master ect. I would just check around and be patient. The one I would save up for and look for when I get more cash would be

    http://cgi.videogon.com/cgi-bin/cl.pl?rcvr71ch&1281232291&&&/Pioneer-Elite-SC07-

    Does everything you need, has a great amp section, decodes everything, and I personally like the calibration system Pio uses.
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  • Polkie2009
    Polkie2009 Posts: 3,834
    edited June 2010
    Some of the older Yamaha 7.2 AVR's can be found used around your price range.The Yamaha RX-V 663 is considered a better unit than the newer RX-V665. Same thing with the RX-V863, better than the newer 865. If you're like most of us here,you'll be eventually upgrading to a better system with separate amps,preamp or processor etc. With technology changing so fast nowadays, I'm going to wait a couple of years and keep using my 663 as a preamp/processor.
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  • Jetmaker737
    Jetmaker737 Posts: 1,123
    edited June 2010
    K-daugh wrote: »
    when i said use specifics i meant use specific reasons why you would choose that avr

    LOL... well, if you demand answers here you go:

    Onkyo TX-SR805

    1. Can be had in you price range (used obviously)
    2. I have one and have been very satisfied
    3. It has HDMI (which I don't use, BTW)
    4. It has lots of power and even drove my LSi's decently
    5. It has respectable 2 channel sound in Pure Audio or Direct modes
    6. Has Audessey
    7. Nice remote, lighted
    8. Has pre-outs, multi-ch inputs, and lots of other stuff on the back
    9. Has dimmer function
    10. On screen programming
    11. Lots of inputs with intellivolume and other programmable stuff

    How's that?
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  • tonyb
    tonyb Posts: 33,077
    edited June 2010
    3-5 hundies for what you want will be tough even used. You may have to go with an avr without pre outs and with a decent amp section for the time being untill coinage is more available.
    HT SYSTEM-
    Sony 850c 4k
    Pioneer elite vhx 21
    Sony 4k BRP
    SVS SB-2000
    Polk Sig. 20's
    Polk FX500 surrounds

    Cables-
    Acoustic zen Satori speaker cables
    Acoustic zen Matrix 2 IC's
    Wireworld eclipse 7 ic's
    Audio metallurgy ga-o digital cable

    Kitchen

    Sonos zp90
    Grant Fidelity tube dac
    B&k 1420
    lsi 9's
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  • cfrizz
    cfrizz Posts: 13,415
    edited June 2010
    tonyb wrote: »
    3-5 hundies for what you want will be tough even used. You may have to go with an avr without pre outs and with a decent amp section for the time being untill coinage is more available.

    Or exercise a bit of patience, save more money, and get a better avr the first time around that will hold him for several years.
    Marantz AV-7705 PrePro, Classé 5 channel 200wpc Amp, Oppo 103 BluRay, Rotel RCD-1072 CDP, Sony XBR-49X800E TV, Polk S60 Main Speakers, Polk ES30 Center Channel, Polk S15 Surround Speakers SVS SB12-NSD x2
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  • Hawkeye
    Hawkeye Posts: 1,313
    edited June 2010
    cfrizz wrote: »
    Or exercise a bit of patience, save more money, and get a better avr the first time around that will hold him for several years.

    Bingo! Give the lady a cigar!!:D

    Gordon
    2 Channel -
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    McIntosh C1000 Controller with Tube pre amp, 2 MC501 amplifiers, MD1K Transport & DAC, MR-88 Tuner
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  • tonyb
    tonyb Posts: 33,077
    edited June 2010
    That would be the route I would take. But you know what happens to cash sitting around,it gets spent on something else. Discipline is definately needed.
    HT SYSTEM-
    Sony 850c 4k
    Pioneer elite vhx 21
    Sony 4k BRP
    SVS SB-2000
    Polk Sig. 20's
    Polk FX500 surrounds

    Cables-
    Acoustic zen Satori speaker cables
    Acoustic zen Matrix 2 IC's
    Wireworld eclipse 7 ic's
    Audio metallurgy ga-o digital cable

    Kitchen

    Sonos zp90
    Grant Fidelity tube dac
    B&k 1420
    lsi 9's
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  • K-daugh
    K-daugh Posts: 467
    edited June 2010
    just throwen this out there....how about a refurb hk avr.....which one would be best.....in all reality i only need two hdmi(one for cable box and one for dvd).....i also plan on adding a two or three channel amp eventually....so the hk wold only need to power my surrounds (2 m30's) (hopefully four if i upgrade to 7.1)im just not sure when the amp will come into play so the avr would have to be stellar enough to power all 5 speakers in the mean time....along with 1080 processing....
    Budget 5.1 H.T. Set Up
    HK avr 247 - Adcom GFA-7605:mrgreen::mrgreen: - Belkin PF60 Power Conditioner - Cs2 center channel - Monitor 60's fronts - Monitor 30's rears
    Mirage Bps 150i powered sub - 40"Samsung LCD ln40c530 - Sony Blu Ray Player BDP-S370 - Comcast digital hd box(motorola dcx3400)
    Monoprice Premium Interconnects Monoprice Ultra Slim HDMI w/Redmere:mrgreen: -Knukonceptz Kord 10 Gauge Speaker Wire - Nakamichi Banana Plugs
    Custom Jumpers
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  • K-daugh
    K-daugh Posts: 467
    edited June 2010
    that pio elite is sic not sure how i feel about the whole i phone gadget though or is that just with the regular pioneers
    Budget 5.1 H.T. Set Up
    HK avr 247 - Adcom GFA-7605:mrgreen::mrgreen: - Belkin PF60 Power Conditioner - Cs2 center channel - Monitor 60's fronts - Monitor 30's rears
    Mirage Bps 150i powered sub - 40"Samsung LCD ln40c530 - Sony Blu Ray Player BDP-S370 - Comcast digital hd box(motorola dcx3400)
    Monoprice Premium Interconnects Monoprice Ultra Slim HDMI w/Redmere:mrgreen: -Knukonceptz Kord 10 Gauge Speaker Wire - Nakamichi Banana Plugs
    Custom Jumpers
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  • mdaudioguy
    mdaudioguy Posts: 5,164
    edited June 2010
    mdaudioguy wrote: »
    http://stores.ebay.com/Harman-Audio
    K-daugh wrote: »
    just throwen this out there....how about a refurb hk avr.....which one would be best.....in all reality i only need two hdmi(one for cable box and one for dvd).....i also plan on adding a two or three channel amp eventually....so the hk wold only need to power my surrounds (2 m30's) (hopefully four if i upgrade to 7.1)im just not sure when the amp will come into play so the avr would have to be stellar enough to power all 5 speakers in the mean time....along with 1080 processing....

    I'm using an HK AVR 254. Lot's of recommendations on this from many people over the past 12 to 18 months. An excellent choice, IMHO. I went through a couple of Yamahas and an Onkyo before setting on this.
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  • mdaudioguy
    mdaudioguy Posts: 5,164
    edited June 2010
    Dupe.
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  • K-daugh
    K-daugh Posts: 467
    edited June 2010
    mdaudioguy wrote: »
    Dupe.

    i don't understand??????:confused:
    Budget 5.1 H.T. Set Up
    HK avr 247 - Adcom GFA-7605:mrgreen::mrgreen: - Belkin PF60 Power Conditioner - Cs2 center channel - Monitor 60's fronts - Monitor 30's rears
    Mirage Bps 150i powered sub - 40"Samsung LCD ln40c530 - Sony Blu Ray Player BDP-S370 - Comcast digital hd box(motorola dcx3400)
    Monoprice Premium Interconnects Monoprice Ultra Slim HDMI w/Redmere:mrgreen: -Knukonceptz Kord 10 Gauge Speaker Wire - Nakamichi Banana Plugs
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  • mdaudioguy
    mdaudioguy Posts: 5,164
    edited June 2010
    Neither do I....:o

    See post #22... disregard #23 :)
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  • K-daugh
    K-daugh Posts: 467
    edited June 2010
    i was thinking a 354 but there kind of hard to find is the 254 sufficient in powering the speakers.....is that the only difference between the two ....the wattage????
    Budget 5.1 H.T. Set Up
    HK avr 247 - Adcom GFA-7605:mrgreen::mrgreen: - Belkin PF60 Power Conditioner - Cs2 center channel - Monitor 60's fronts - Monitor 30's rears
    Mirage Bps 150i powered sub - 40"Samsung LCD ln40c530 - Sony Blu Ray Player BDP-S370 - Comcast digital hd box(motorola dcx3400)
    Monoprice Premium Interconnects Monoprice Ultra Slim HDMI w/Redmere:mrgreen: -Knukonceptz Kord 10 Gauge Speaker Wire - Nakamichi Banana Plugs
    Custom Jumpers
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  • mdaudioguy
    mdaudioguy Posts: 5,164
    edited June 2010
    I think so. And, for the record, everyone says don't compare HK's watts per channel rating to others. It's a high current design with plenty of power for Monitor series AND it has preouts for future use.
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  • K-daugh
    K-daugh Posts: 467
    edited June 2010
    does it hold its own against ....say....an onk 807....or den 890.....definate must is preouts....i mean talk about bang for buck two hungie for a 254 ...thats crazy
    Budget 5.1 H.T. Set Up
    HK avr 247 - Adcom GFA-7605:mrgreen::mrgreen: - Belkin PF60 Power Conditioner - Cs2 center channel - Monitor 60's fronts - Monitor 30's rears
    Mirage Bps 150i powered sub - 40"Samsung LCD ln40c530 - Sony Blu Ray Player BDP-S370 - Comcast digital hd box(motorola dcx3400)
    Monoprice Premium Interconnects Monoprice Ultra Slim HDMI w/Redmere:mrgreen: -Knukonceptz Kord 10 Gauge Speaker Wire - Nakamichi Banana Plugs
    Custom Jumpers
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  • K-daugh
    K-daugh Posts: 467
    edited June 2010
    mdaudioguy do you now anything about power cables????
    Budget 5.1 H.T. Set Up
    HK avr 247 - Adcom GFA-7605:mrgreen::mrgreen: - Belkin PF60 Power Conditioner - Cs2 center channel - Monitor 60's fronts - Monitor 30's rears
    Mirage Bps 150i powered sub - 40"Samsung LCD ln40c530 - Sony Blu Ray Player BDP-S370 - Comcast digital hd box(motorola dcx3400)
    Monoprice Premium Interconnects Monoprice Ultra Slim HDMI w/Redmere:mrgreen: -Knukonceptz Kord 10 Gauge Speaker Wire - Nakamichi Banana Plugs
    Custom Jumpers
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  • mdaudioguy
    mdaudioguy Posts: 5,164
    edited June 2010
    I have a lower model Onkyo rated at 80 wpc. I like the HK better, mostly because of its warmer tone. My Yamahas were rated at 90 and 105, but were too bright when paired with my RTis.

    Power cables? That's the part you plug into the wall, right? ;) What about 'em?
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  • K-daugh
    K-daugh Posts: 467
    edited June 2010
    check out my thread in basic wiring power cables and lcds
    Budget 5.1 H.T. Set Up
    HK avr 247 - Adcom GFA-7605:mrgreen::mrgreen: - Belkin PF60 Power Conditioner - Cs2 center channel - Monitor 60's fronts - Monitor 30's rears
    Mirage Bps 150i powered sub - 40"Samsung LCD ln40c530 - Sony Blu Ray Player BDP-S370 - Comcast digital hd box(motorola dcx3400)
    Monoprice Premium Interconnects Monoprice Ultra Slim HDMI w/Redmere:mrgreen: -Knukonceptz Kord 10 Gauge Speaker Wire - Nakamichi Banana Plugs
    Custom Jumpers
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  • K-daugh
    K-daugh Posts: 467
    edited June 2010
    what do you people feel about the hk avr247 harman audio has one on the cheap $244 buy it now ......or should i just go with 254 or 354....or save up fr a 3600 i dunno i have a hard time making my mind up if you cant tell....definately leaning towards the refurb hk's though:D
    Budget 5.1 H.T. Set Up
    HK avr 247 - Adcom GFA-7605:mrgreen::mrgreen: - Belkin PF60 Power Conditioner - Cs2 center channel - Monitor 60's fronts - Monitor 30's rears
    Mirage Bps 150i powered sub - 40"Samsung LCD ln40c530 - Sony Blu Ray Player BDP-S370 - Comcast digital hd box(motorola dcx3400)
    Monoprice Premium Interconnects Monoprice Ultra Slim HDMI w/Redmere:mrgreen: -Knukonceptz Kord 10 Gauge Speaker Wire - Nakamichi Banana Plugs
    Custom Jumpers
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