Stereo Gear for sale.

Echosphere
Echosphere Posts: 395
edited June 2010 in For Sale (FS) Classifieds
My friend in Seattle has some gear he is wanting to sell. Let me know if you are interested in any of it.

Local Seattle pickup only!

Audio Research Stereo SP-8 Pre-Amp
Kinetics Research KCD-2- Compact Disc Player
Carver Asymmetrical Charge Coupled FM Detector TX-11
Nakamichi Cassette Player/Recorder 700 ZXE
PS Moving Coil Step up Amplifier

I take full responsibility for this listing and all items sold.

Cheers,
Scott
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  • Echosphere
    Echosphere Posts: 395
    edited May 2010
    Lasareath wrote: »
    Happy 200th post!

    The rules for the FM state you cannot sell your friend's gear. It needs to be your gear.

    Sorry,

    What I was told at a 100 I could sell, 200 I could sell my friends stuff, and at 300 I would get my own harem! :D

    Sorry about that really.. :(
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  • kn505
    kn505 Posts: 380
    edited May 2010
    Just curious...

    Can Echosphere buy his friend's stuff first, then resell them here?
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  • AsSiMiLaTeD
    AsSiMiLaTeD Posts: 11,728
    edited May 2010
    I believe you also need to list a price
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  • hearingimpared
    hearingimpared Posts: 21,136
    edited May 2010
    Lasareath wrote: »
    Happy 200th post!

    The rules for the FM state you cannot sell your friend's gear. It needs to be your gear.

    Sorry,

    Not true! The seller just has to be a member and make sure he knows that he and he alone is responsible for any transactions. All prices must be listed and what sort of payment is accepted. It would also help to post pictures and state the condition of each peice of gear.

    I know the rules have been modified since I sold gear for a friend but I was sure to mention that I am the one totally responsible for any transactions.

    IF this is incorrect mods please correct me.
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  • george daniel
    george daniel Posts: 12,096
    edited May 2010
    Audio Research Stereo SP-8 Pre-Amp


    how much?
    JC approves....he told me so. (F-1 nut)
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  • Polkersince85
    Polkersince85 Posts: 2,883
    edited May 2010
    George, as interesting as the SP-8 is, he still needs to follow the rules.
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  • george daniel
    george daniel Posts: 12,096
    edited May 2010
    Polkersince85 wrote: »
    George, as interesting as the SP-8 is, he still needs to follow the rules.

    Oops-- you're right

    To the OP-- nevermind-- gotta' play by the rules.
    JC approves....he told me so. (F-1 nut)
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  • Echosphere
    Echosphere Posts: 395
    edited May 2010
    hearingimpared wrote: »
    Not true! The seller just has to be a member and make sure he knows that he and he alone is responsible for any transactions. All prices must be listed and what sort of payment is accepted. It would also help to post pictures and state the condition of each peice of gear.

    I know the rules have been modified since I sold gear for a friend but I was sure to mention that I am the one totally responsible for any transactions.

    IF this is incorrect mods please correct me.

    Thanks for backing me up, but after re-reading the rules it very politely says it ain't a good idea to do that. Which pretty much means NO.

    Though, it didn't say anything about price and I've seen a few people list without it?

    I would think I should be able to buy it and then to sell here, but that's not my intention.
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  • heiney9
    heiney9 Posts: 25,498
    edited May 2010
    You do need to list a price as a package or individually . We aren't going to guess or bid against each other. You should also state the terms of your sale as in first person to show interest, dibs, first person to send money, only by PM or post interest in the thread, if you will include or charge extra for shipping, what payment method you will accept, how it will be packed, etc, etc. And pics will help a lot. However, you being new might really hamper your sale efforts so don't take it personally. :)

    H9
    "Appreciation of audio is a completely subjective human experience. Measurements can provide a measure of insight, but are no substitute for human judgment. Why are we looking to reduce a subjective experience to objective criteria anyway? The subtleties of music and audio reproduction are for those who appreciate it. Differentiation by numbers is for those who do not".--Nelson Pass Pass Labs XA25 | EE Avant Pre | EE Mini Max Supreme DAC | MIT Shotgun S1 | Puritan Audio PSM136 Pwr Condtioner & Classic PC's | Legend L600 | Roon Nucleus 1 w/LPS - Tubes add soul!
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  • Echosphere
    Echosphere Posts: 395
    edited May 2010
    heiney9 wrote: »
    You do need to list a price as a package or individually . We aren't going to guess or bid against each other. You being new might really hamper your sale efforts so don't take it personally. :)

    H9

    Aww, now that makes sense, I didn't think about a bidding war happening, hate that stuff. Much thanks and not taking any of it personally. If anything, I'm the newbie dork...
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  • NotaSuv
    NotaSuv Posts: 3,871
    edited May 2010
    So if you buy your friends equipment, and post it here as yours with a set price you should be well within the rules....................
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  • TECHNOKID
    TECHNOKID Posts: 4,298
    edited May 2010
    NotaSuv wrote: »
    So if you buy your friends equipment, and post it here as yours with a set price you should be well within the rules....................
    No one should lead him into lying so far he's been doing good as a member. Many of the members have claimed for tighter rules in the FS so why now that Polk has taken action should it be different?

    Who ever wants to deal with this can take out of CP, right?

    Cheers!
    TK
    DARE TO SOAR:
    “Your attitude, almost always determine your altitude in life” ;)
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  • hearingimpared
    hearingimpared Posts: 21,136
    edited May 2010
    TECHNOKID wrote: »
    No one should lead him into lying so far he's been doing good as a member. Many of the members have claimed for tighter rules in the FS so why now that Polk has taken action should it be different?

    Who ever wants to deal with this can take out of CP, right?

    Cheers!
    TK

    TK who is goading him into lying?
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  • TECHNOKID
    TECHNOKID Posts: 4,298
    edited May 2010
    hearingimpared wrote: »
    TK who is goading him into lying?
    So if you buy your friends equipment, and post it here as yours with a set price you should be well within the rules....................
    I'm sure you can reas between the lines ;)
    DARE TO SOAR:
    “Your attitude, almost always determine your altitude in life” ;)
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  • hearingimpared
    hearingimpared Posts: 21,136
    edited May 2010
    TECHNOKID wrote: »
    I'm sure you can reas between the lines ;)

    Sorry TK but rules clearly state to buy your friends gear and then post it for sale. Do I don't see any need to read in between the lines.
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  • Echosphere
    Echosphere Posts: 395
    edited May 2010
    NotaSuv wrote: »
    So if you buy your friends equipment, and post it here as yours with a set price you should be well within the rules....................

    I just want to rock and roll. All night. Really.
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  • polkfarmboy
    polkfarmboy Posts: 5,703
    edited May 2010
    Get pictures up dude .... we need to see the goods

    You are spitting on your fellow members faces for you to argue about the rules not sayin you have to list a price
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  • hearingimpared
    hearingimpared Posts: 21,136
    edited May 2010
    polkfarmboy wrote: »
    Get pictures up dude .... we need to see the goods

    You are spitting on your fellow members faces for you to argue about the rules not sayin you have to list a price

    Huh??? Where's my crack pipe, I would like to make sense of that sentence.:confused::confused:
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  • polkfarmboy
    polkfarmboy Posts: 5,703
    edited May 2010
    Echosphere wrote: »
    Thanks for backing me up, but after re-reading the rules it very politely says it ain't a good idea to do that. Which pretty much means NO.

    Though, it didn't say anything about price and I've seen a few people list without it?

    Dude maybe you should find the coffee pot

    Everyone knows you have to list a price even if the rules dont state it
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  • hearingimpared
    hearingimpared Posts: 21,136
    edited May 2010
    polkfarmboy wrote: »
    Dude maybe you should find the coffee pot

    Everyone knows you have to list a price even if the rules dont state it

    I was just bustin' on you!:p BTW I've got more coffee in me right now than I care to admit.:eek:
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  • NotaSuv
    NotaSuv Posts: 3,871
    edited May 2010
    TECHNOKID wrote: »
    No one should lead him into lying so far he's been doing good as a member. Many of the members have claimed for tighter rules in the FS so why now that Polk has taken action should it be different?

    Who ever wants to deal with this can take out of CP, right?

    Cheers!
    TK

    Maybe this translated different in Canadian..........no between the lines BS


    He CAN buy his friends stuff and then sell them here....
    Thats all that was posted...ball is in his court................
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  • zingo
    zingo Posts: 11,258
    edited May 2010
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    Jake
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  • Echosphere
    Echosphere Posts: 395
    edited May 2010
    Sorry, didn't mean to create friction.
    I gather though the issue about selling "friends" gear has been an area of debate on these boards.

    In regards to the pricing, I apologize as I wasn't trying to argue, since I'm relatively new, I simply didn't know. If they could add that part to the guidelines it would help noobs like me. :(

    TechnoKid can correct me if I'm wrong. But I think he was trying to say that, as a good member, I wouldn't lie and SAY I bought the stuff just so I can post it here. I think that's why he wrote "read between the lines".
    He wasn't arguing the rules, I think he just thought that NotaSuv was suggesting I SAY I just bought them so I can continue to post them here. Which is probably not what NotaSuv intended to mean.

    Also, I think TechnoKid meant to say that if anyone is interested they can take this out of CP and deal one on one? Meaning, send me a PM with email and we could deal directly, just not on the forums?

    That seems like a gray area, but if it's possible, that would be the best route now that we've already opened Pandora's box AND since this thread, as pictured above, has gone off course. :D

    My friend is currently away on vacation this long weekend and I sent him an email asking for photos and price. He should get back to me tonight or tomorrow.

    Would that be acceptable? Apologies again, if I just opened up another can of worms... :(

    Btw, You folks are awesome! Appreciate you trying to help me out. :)
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  • TECHNOKID
    TECHNOKID Posts: 4,298
    edited May 2010
    No biggy Echosphere ;)

    As I mentioned it seems your doing fine on this site and that taking chances with grey area might simply bring porblems you surely don't want.

    There has been somes issues in the past with the FS forum but yet no one has came on to you with criticisms however, if this flies and members suddenly bash other new posters for doing the same that might again create some issues.

    like I've mentioned, taking this out of the forum context might be the wise solution since no bad surprises would hit you back in the face in the long run (better be safe than sorry) ;)

    Cheers!
    TK
    DARE TO SOAR:
    “Your attitude, almost always determine your altitude in life” ;)
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  • Big Dawg
    Big Dawg Posts: 2,005
    edited May 2010
    Guys, this really isn't that tough, and the rules are quite clear:

    http://www.polkaudio.com/forums/announcement.php?f=34
    -justin- wrote:
    Selling Guidelines

    Note: Besides #1 & #2, the rest of these are just guidelines to make the sale easier.

    1. You must have a total post count of 100 (contribute to the other parts of the forum) before you can sell anything in the "For Sale (FS) Classifieds" or "Garage Sale" forums.
    2. List a price you wish to sell the item (include shipping costs). All members asking for secret bids (like ebay) will have their items removed.
    3. A price + OBO (or best offer) is OK. Please handle "best offers" through private messages.
    4. Post pictures of equipment with manual cords, etc..
    5. Give approximate age of item you are selling.
    6. State whether you are original owner.
    7. State condition of equipment (be honest if there is damage).
    8. Once the sale is complete, please post "SOLD" at the beginning or end of your thread.

    And this:

    http://www.polkaudio.com/forums/showthread.php?t=98162
    Patrick C wrote:
    Selling gear "for a friend" doesn't count in this Flea Market. You, or your "friend" need to take direct responsibility for the transaction. You should encourage them to join and participate prior to FM sales. There have been a couple bad transactions where the seller has washed his hands of it, since it wasn't "his" originally. Sorry Charlie, if the gear is that good, buy it and sell it under your name and assume responsibility.

    From Justin's #2 above, clearly you must state a price. From Patrick's rule, you can sell for a friend if you wish (although not preferable), but it is as if you are selling for yourself - you are 100% responsible for anything you sell on the forum.
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  • TECHNOKID
    TECHNOKID Posts: 4,298
    edited May 2010
    Big Dawg wrote: »
    Guys, this really isn't that tough, and the rules are quite clear:

    http://www.polkaudio.com/forums/announcement.php?f=34



    And this:

    http://www.polkaudio.com/forums/showthread.php?t=98162



    From Justin's #2 above, clearly you must state a price. From Patrick's rule, you can sell for a friend if you wish (although not preferable), but it is as if you are selling for yourself - you are 100% responsible for anything you sell on the forum.
    Thanks for the details Big Dawg. In fact echosphere did state he was taking full responsibility for the sale (well done echosphere)
    I take full responsibility for this listing and all items sold.
    The only things he is missing are pictures and prices :cool:

    Cheers!
    TK
    DARE TO SOAR:
    “Your attitude, almost always determine your altitude in life” ;)
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  • hearingimpared
    hearingimpared Posts: 21,136
    edited May 2010
    Big Dawg wrote: »
    Guys, this really isn't that tough, and the rules are quite clear:

    http://www.polkaudio.com/forums/announcement.php?f=34



    And this:

    http://www.polkaudio.com/forums/showthread.php?t=98162



    From Justin's #2 above, clearly you must state a price. From Patrick's rule, you can sell for a friend if you wish (although not preferable), but it is as if you are selling for yourself - you are 100% responsible for anything you sell on the forum.

    Mike I stated that way back in post #7 how it got this far out-of-whack is beyond me.

    I don't know, ALL of Polk Forum rules are very cut and dry. How there can be any debate or reading between the lines is also beyond me.
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  • TECHNOKID
    TECHNOKID Posts: 4,298
    edited May 2010
    To emphazise my earlier post: I stand corrected ;) What was in my mind is some previous sale of the sort that tuned sour. Personnally, I wouldn't take responsibility for someone else gear just in case, wouldn't like to jeopardize a good reputation for example. On another note, it always been a big thing when newbie sells stuff so how about someone selling for a non member? Just food for thought ;)
    DARE TO SOAR:
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  • Echosphere
    Echosphere Posts: 395
    edited May 2010
    :eek: OH MY!!!!!!!! :eek:

    I am such a fool!!!

    I never noticed that announcement link!! Since it was above the red line, it didn't look like a link to me... I am so sorry.

    Hearingimpared, you are right this should not have gone as long, as it wouldn't have it I had simply clicked on that Announcement link! I only looked at the "sticky".

    I feel like a fool...

    Wait now, that I finally read the "real" Announcement, this means if I get photos and prices I can post?

    Again, my apologies...
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  • hearingimpared
    hearingimpared Posts: 21,136
    edited May 2010
    TECHNOKID wrote: »
    To emphazise my earlier post: I stand corrected ;) What was in my mind is some previous sale of the sort that tuned sour. Personnally, I wouldn't take responsibility for someone else gear just in case, wouldn't like to jeopardize a good reputation for example. On another note, it always been a big thing when newbie sells stuff so how about someone selling for a non member? Just food for thought ;)

    TK the issue was ALWAYS someone coming in here and racking up 25 senseless posts to be able to sell in the FM. Now that it is set to 100 posts, it's easier to enforce. Aveda aveda aveda aveda that's all folks.
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