Bi-Amp workaround question

I have the h/k 520 and have never thought of this configuration. Pretty damn clever in my opinion. While reading through it I was thinking what a pain it would be everytime you fire the h/k you would have to turn on zone 2 but the writer worked his way through that also. Good job to whomever wrote that!

BTW I am a believer in bi-amping and am on the side that thinks bi-amping is more effective than bi-wiring for what its worth.

HBomb

Note: I've never actually did this myself, as I haven't ever really had too, but if the situation was right, I would do it in a hearbeat. If you have a receiver with 7 powered channels, of which you are only using 5 of them, and your mains are biampable/biwireable, it would be almost foolish not to take advantage of this. Especially since it is so easy to do and virtually free. Plus, there will be no gain difference issues whatsoever to worry about by doing it this way.


It CAN be done, at least on a Denon 5803 (and I would assume, on a 3802/3803 and 4802 also in the same manner) as follows:


Bi-Amping on a Receiver?

You betcha! True all of the benefits of bi-amping cannot be realized without eliminating the passive crossovers in the speaker system and actively bandwidth limiting the signals line level, but adding more clean power to a system is usually a good thing and something I happily welcome. The initial phase of my listening tests were to be conducted in 2 channel and 5.1 multi-channel surround and audio. I thought to myself, why let those two hulking 170 wpc amps that would normally power the back surround channels go to waste. I figured I could simply route the preouts of the main channels into the pre-ins of the rear back channels and boost my headroom by 3dB for the front channels and go to bed with a smile on my face that I had a receiver pumping 340 watts to each of my main speakers.



Well it didn't quite turn out that way as Denon did not provision preamp couplers for this task. A quick phone call questioning “why?” to Denon's fabulous tech support revealed that they did this for a very good reason, eliminate a path for noise. Ordinarily I would have questioned that, but the very fact that year after year, Denon products, namely their receivers and DVD players always measure some of the lowest noise floors in the industry as illustrated by their exceptional Signal to Noise (SNR) measurements in all modes of operation conducted by various audio publications.



After some thought, Denon tech support gave me the info on how to accomplish the bi-amping task. Here is how to do it. Note this will only work if you don't plan on using the amps for surround back channels or multi zone 2 applications.



Bi-Amp Configuration of Main Channels

Step #1: Connect a pair of analog RCA cables from the preamp outs of the “Front” channels to an unused input of the AVR-5803 (In my case, I chose VDP).

Step #2: Select the chosen input as the source for Multi Zone 2.

Step #3: In the Multi Zone Control menu, select power amp assignment for “Multi Zone 2”.

Step #4: Using the internal test tones of the AVR-5803, position the SPL meter (slow response,
C-weighted) at the listening position and increase the master volume control until each speaker
reads about 75dB.

Step #5: Disconnect the speaker level connections from the “Front” channels at the AVR-5803 and
reconnect them to the appropriate “Multi Zone 2” speaker level connections.

Step #6: Repeat Step#4 while varying the “Multi Zone 2” volume level. I found nearly unity gain
correlation between the “Front” channel and “Multi Zone 2” amplifiers to be at the “Multi Zone 2”
volume level setting of +2dB.


Note: It would have been nice if the channel trim for this volume level control had +/-0.5dB precision, as all of the other channel trims of this receiver had, for better precision. Better yet, it would have been even nicer if Denon had a unity gain strap for this exact application so I could have avoided the pains of this set-up. Hint Hint. During my operation of the receiver in this set-up, I was always a little concerned if the wife or my daughter were to accidentally press a few wrong buttons on the remote and screw things up. However, if I couldn't audibly notice if this problem occurred, then I probably didn't deserve to worry about it.



Step #7: Remove the jumpers on the back of the main speakers (you would be amazed at how many people forget to do this, Yikes!)

Step #8: Connect a set of wires from the “Front” channels of the receiver to the highs section of each of your front speakers and a set of wires from the “Multi Zone 2” channels of the receiver to the lows of your front speakers.


All of the basic audio calibrations were now complete, with a sign if relief, I was filled with anticipation to begin my subjective listening testing of two channel and 5.1 multi channel audio.

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BTW RVJII, refresh my memory here, what receiver do you have? Is it a HK 7200? Or a Denon 4802 maybe?

i dont think you can get the m282 anymore (unless used). you can get the INTEGRA ADM 2.1. its the same as the m282 (better cuircutry inside supposedly). I use one to power my surround channel, and sometimes use it in 2 channel mode as a spare system when needed. I can say it is a sweet sounding amp for its 300.00 price tag. I dont think there is a 300.00 amp new that can touch this thing. might want to consider it.

man, who doesn't have 7.1 by now anyways? get on the bandwagon!