3d will be here forever !!! So get on board

digitalvideo · May 2010

The battery life in 3D glasses could be similar to battery life in hearing aids like from Belltone, I know people who have hearing aids and replace them every few weeks.

polkfarmboy · May 2010

When I work nightshift my wifes always running out of batteries

warren · May 2010

I'll wait untill it comes out in color...

reberly · May 2010

I dont think your average Joe has even considered a Blu-ray player yet forget about people getting excited about 3D except for the movie theater. If 3D ever becomes the medium of choice its got to be more than 5 years down the road

Polkitup2 · May 2010

I went to a different Best Buy today and 1 out of their 2 pairs of 3D glasses was working. So I sat down and watched Monters versus Aliens. I have to admit it was pretty cool. Reminds me of the View-Master 3D when I was a kid.

jm1 · May 2010

Polkitup2 wrote: »

I went to a different Best Buy today and 1 out of their 2 pairs of 3D glasses was working. So I sat down and watched Monters versus Aliens. I have to admit it was pretty cool. Reminds me of the View-Master 3D when I was a kid.

Saw the same movie today in 3D. Kind of neat, but I would not invest any money in this.

cnh · May 2010

3D effects have been around for my entire lifetime and that spans over a half-century....the new tech is a bit better but one can ask...a simple question....if 3D has been around for over 50 years why have so 'few' movies been shot in this great 'new' tech. Admittedly, the new glasses are a bit better than the old Green/Red lenses....but it still doesn't look quite real even in an imax?

Perhaps its better to just wait for Holographic Technology...NO TV set...just a laser system that actually forms images in the midst of your livingroom using laser cameras? I'm sure we'll see that in our lifetime. What's the point! I suppose it's that we REALLY WANT TO LIVE IN OUR DREAMS WHILE WE ARE AWAKE. To actually ENTER an Alternative Reality...isn't that the real appeal of 3D...let me experience something as REAL as my waking life..only 'more' interesting? Shades of the MATRIX....NO? How many of you would like to live in the Matrix? Just sayin

cnh

Sherardp · May 2010

cnh wrote: »

3D effects have been around for my entire lifetime and that spans over a half-century....the new tech is a bit better but one can ask...a simple question....if 3D has been around for over 50 years why have so 'few' movies been shot in this great 'new' tech. Admittedly, the new glasses are a bit better than the old Green/Red lenses....but it still doesn't look quite real even in an imax?

Perhaps its better to just wait for Holographic Technology...NO TV set...just a laser system that actually forms images in the midst of your livingroom using laser cameras? I'm sure we'll see that in our lifetime. What's the point! I suppose it's that we REALLY WANT TO LIVE IN OUR DREAMS WHILE WE ARE AWAKE. To actually ENTER an Alternative Reality...isn't that the real appeal of 3D...let me experience something as REAL as my waking life..only 'more' interesting? Shades of the MATRIX....NO? How many of you would like to live in the Matrix? Just sayin

cnh

I'm all for the Total Recall type environment.

warren · May 2010

Holographic Technology, sounds great, I'll wait also...

comfortablycurt · May 2010

Seems like most of the people here either aren't interested in 3D at all, or not interested in getting into it for at least another 5-10 years.

As myself, and others have stated before...people aren't ready to upgrade again. Most people have just finally made the upgrade to an HDTV, although MANY people still haven't. I know plenty of people that are still using older TV's, with the new digital converter boxes for their antenna's.

To that effect, the vast majority of the public is still MORE than happy with the quality of DVD's, and hasn't even really considered making the jump to Blu-ray yet. The way I see things, it's gonna be at least another 5 years or so before Blu-ray players really become a common household item. It really just isn't that important to most people.

It's gonna be at least 10-15 years before 3D becomes the standard, if that ever even happens.

The way I see things though, 3D is going to be a temporary fad that isn't going to catch on. As I've stated before...I'll never buy into it. The only way I'd get a 3D TV, is if I didn't have any choices for a non 3D TV. Even if I did have one though, I wouldn't even use it.

Amherst · May 2010

Oh come on. We'd at least try it and then give the borrowed glasses back to the neighbor.

madmax · May 2010

I'll stick with 2D and 2 channel... I like something about the number 2.
madmax

wutadumsn23 · May 2010

F1nut wrote: »

Join the Army.

OMG Jesse, I almost peed myself, the best quote you I have seen from you to date, lol. As for 3D, I am not a fan and will not upgrade until I absolutely have to. Regular TV is just fine for me.

-Jeff

doctorcilantro · May 2010

I can't but help feeling like 3D = surround sound. I don't mind watching movies in 2.0 on my hifi, and I don't want to spend more cash for more clutter and complexity.

kuntasensei · May 2010

Went to get glasses Friday and they did a 3-D perception test. I put the glasses on and was supposed to see certain circles in each pattern sticking out at me... but I only got 3 out of 10 correct. I was like, "So what does that mean?" The eye doc said, "It means don't pay the extra money to see 3-D movies."

So there you go. My eye doctor just saved me a ton of cash, and made me glad I went ahead and bought that Epson 8500UB.

anhchungdoan · May 2010

polkfarmboy wrote: »

When I work nightshift my wifes always running out of batteries

I wonder why?

Ron-P · May 2010

It will be a long, long time before I jump onto the 3D bandwagon. I don't need it, and fact is, don't really care for it. Sure, it's cool, but not near as cool going from 480p to 1080p and lossless audio.

Although, I bet it would be nice watching a 3D film when sitting 7' away from my 8' screen.

I got burned by HD-DVD and jumping in too soon. I did know the risk but I won't take that risk ever again. A new format will have to be out for several years before I buy in...again.

madmax · May 2010

Ron, I think you should jump into 3D right away, I'm about ready for a projector upgrade.

madmax

cnh · May 2010

kuntasensei wrote: »

Went to get glasses Friday and they did a 3-D perception test. I put the glasses on and was supposed to see certain circles in each pattern sticking out at me... but I only got 3 out of 10 correct. I was like, "So what does that mean?" The eye doc said, "It means don't pay the extra money to see 3-D movies."

So there you go. My eye doctor just saved me a ton of cash, and made me glad I went ahead and bought that Epson 8500UB.

Sorry to hear about that...but it looks like it worked out OK for you.

I was in an Electronic Store in Beijing the other day (Gome--kind of like a Best Buy)...they had an LG (I think) 3D with an animation film running on it. Looking at the image head-on it was blurry because of the stereoscopic visual effects. I put on the glasses and, yeah, I could see 3D (brighter than the usual fare). But when I took the glasses off they disoriented me a bit...and it took me a minute or so to readjust to my actual vision? My daughter who is 12 experienced EXACTLY the same phenomenon and said it made her head hurt for a bit?

Anyone else feel this? Just curious.

cnh

Amherst · May 2010

The phenomenon is pretty well documented. Just wait till the lawyers get a hold of this after a few car wrecks with people driving home unable to orient.

mystik610 · May 2010

cnh wrote: »

Sorry to hear about that...but it looks like it worked out OK for you.

I was in an Electronic Store in Beijing the other day (Gome--kind of like a Best Buy)...they had an LG (I think) 3D with an animation film running on it. Looking at the image head-on it was blurry because of the stereoscopic visual effects. I put on the glasses and, yeah, I could see 3D (brighter than the usual fare). But when I took the glasses off they disoriented me a bit...and it took me a minute or so to readjust to my actual vision? My daughter who is 12 experienced EXACTLY the same phenomenon and said it made her head hurt for a bit?

Anyone else feel this? Just curious.

cnh

The same thing happened to me.

I was at the Sony store a couple of months back and spent most of my lunch break demo'ing the 3D material.

I spent the rest of my day at work disoriented and with a headache. I could see the 3d effect, but could also see the inconsistencies in it. Its very different than watching it in the theater....its very unnatural.

AresPolk · May 2010

No thanks. You can keep your 3D garbage. Thanks for driving down "traditional" HDTV set prices though!

inspiredsports · May 2010

3D gives me "eye fatigue" in the same way original SL2000's give me "ear fatigue".

I'll pass until 3D RDO upgrades are available

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mystik610 · May 2010

AresPolk wrote: »

No thanks. You can keep your 3D garbage. Thanks for driving down "traditional" HDTV set prices though!

Traditional TV prices are being driven down by the normal laws of supply and demand. Improvements in LCD and Plasma technology have started to plateau....there's very little differentiating new model TV's from older ones. In some ways, new model TV's are inferior to older ones.

3D is being pushed by TV manufacturers for the sake of trying to justify a higher price premium for new model TV's. In reality though, its a feature that has no real world utility yet...if ever. There is no real 3D content...no 3D broadcasts...there aren't even standards for 3D content that would make wide-spread distribution possible. Even if 3D does become a norm, it more than likely will not exist in the form it does...much in the same way early HDTV's don't have HDMI terminals, and because of HDCP protocols, can't view 1080p movies.

The technology is being pushed prematurely for the sake of making people pay more for TV's, blu-ray players, and even A/V receivers! OLED TV's are at least a year away, and manufacturers are simply trying to justify charging over $3,000 for a TV until OLED TV's become a viable reality

polkfarmboy · May 2010

Mystic you say that... In reality though, its a feature that has no real world utility yet...if ever. There is no real 3D content.

Have a look at this http://www.nvidia.com/object/3D_Vision_3D_Games.html Now thats an aweful lot of games

Movies will be coming soon enough and theres a ton of 3D games being worked on so you may not even need a 3D tv ..just a plasma with a half decent refresh rate

Now tell me its not worth it to go out and buy a pair of 3D glasses

comfortablycurt · May 2010

polkfarmboy wrote: »

Mystic you say that... In reality though, its a feature that has no real world utility yet...if ever. There is no real 3D content.

Have a look at this http://www.nvidia.com/object/3D_Vision_3D_Games.html Now thats an aweful lot of games

Movies will be coming soon enough and theres a ton of 3D games being worked on so you may not even need a 3D tv ..just a plasma with a half decent refresh rate

Now tell me its not worth it to go out and buy a pair of 3D glasses

It's not worth it to go out and buy a pair of 3D glasses, and never will be. I still say this technology isn't going to catch on.

A pretty large percentage of the population aren't even able to see the 3D material, and another percentage gets motion sickness/nausea from it. How is this possibly going to catch on, when a significant portion of the population either can't see it to begin with, or gets sick from watching it?

If 3D ever does become a household technology...it's definitely not going to be in it's current form.

I've checked out a few 3D TV's now, and I'm capable of seeing it, and it doesn't make me sick. I just don't think it's really that impressive. It's a gimmicky effect, that IMO detracts from the TV watching experience more than improving it. I've got absolutely no interest in buying into it.

If you do enjoy it though, more power to you. As others have mentioned though, it's one of those upgrades that you'll probably be kicking yourself over a few years down the road. It'll fizzle out before it ever even catches on the way I see it. It's going to go the way of the Betamax and the HD DVD player.

mystik610 · May 2010

polkfarmboy wrote: »

Mystic you say that... In reality though, its a feature that has no real world utility yet...if ever. There is no real 3D content.

Have a look at this http://www.nvidia.com/object/3D_Vision_3D_Games.html Now thats an aweful lot of games

Movies will be coming soon enough and theres a ton of 3D games being worked on so you may not even need a 3D tv ..just a plasma with a half decent refresh rate

Now tell me its not worth it to go out and buy a pair of 3D glasses

Yes but those games only support 3D for PC's....PC has always been a very niche market, even more so today with the domination of the console market. Most PC games were originally developed for and relased for consoles, and ported over to the PC as an after-thought. There are a few great PC games of course (Starcraft II comes to mind), but PC gamers make up a very small percentage of the overall market for TV's and monitors...that market alone certainly doesn't have enough pull to ensure the success of 3D.

And out of PC gamers…how many of them are really playing on a big screen TV? Network streaming of media has eliminated the need for an HTPC, and most PC gamers would prefer playing their games on a desk with a monitor. Any gamer knows that the best way to play a FPS or RTS is on a desk with a monitor! SACD appealed to a very niche market, and look where that went?

I’m not saying with absolute certainty that 3D won’t catch on, but in its current form there are too many competing standards, and there are a lot of obstacles to overcome....obstacles like consumer's apprehension to 3D glasses, nausea, etc etc.

Until 3D video streams are standardized, it won’t stand a chance of catching on. The technology is being brought to consumers when a clear path of transitioning from 2D to 3D hasn’t even been established. Most 3D solutions now require glasses….when there are other 3D display methods in the works that could potentially eliminate the need for glasses. Early adopters to 3D are probably buying into technology that will never catch on, or will exist in a form that isn’t supported by current generation equipment.

ryanjoachim · May 2010

And out of PC gamers…how many of them are really playing on a big screen TV? Network streaming of media has eliminated the need for an HTPC, and most PC gamers would prefer playing their games on a desk with a monitor. Any gamer knows that the best way to play a FPS or RTS is on a desk with a monitor! SACD appealed to a very niche market, and look where that went?

Early adopters to 3D are probably buying into technology that will never catch on, or will exist in a form that isn’t supported by current generation equipment.

FPS on a big screen? Fun, but not practical. RTS on a big screen? Big advantage. But that's a discussion for a different thread.

I agree that 3D will never become "mainstream", but for different reasons than you mention. Early adopters of any new technology will be out-dated within the first 6mo-1yr, and they know that. That has always been the case, and has never stopped those who enjoy trying out the newest and "greatest" new thing.

When 3D makes the jump from glasses to glass-free, THEN I think it will be able to go "mainstream" in the sense that everyone will be able to enjoy it at a reasonable price. That being said however, I don't think it will ever become the viewing medium of choice for anyone but the most die-hard adopters.

I think it'll be a great thing for advertisers and such, and will become an everyday part of our lives, but I believe it'll stay out of the home life.

mystik610 · May 2010

ryanjoachim wrote: »

FPS on a big screen? Fun, but not practical. RTS on a big screen? Big advantage. But that's a discussion for a different thread.

I agree that 3D will never become "mainstream", but for different reasons than you mention. Early adopters of any new technology will be out-dated within the first 6mo-1yr, and they know that. That has always been the case, and has never stopped those who enjoy trying out the newest and "greatest" new thing.

There's a stark difference between something being out-dated, and something no longer being supported.

Take the original iPhone, for instance. I was an early adopter to the iPhone, and though its out-dated, because its still supported by Apple, I still get a lot of use from it.

My HD-DVD player, however, is no longer being supported. Other than playing old HD-DVD's, it isn't useful anymore. Blu-ray eventually became the standard format for high definition physical media.

The fact is, there's no standardization of 3D video content yet (if ever)...it will not succeed beyond a niche market level until the technology is standardized in a way that makes wide-spread distribution feasible. If a method of 3D display that doesn't require glasses becomes the standard (which is what it will take for 3D to be successful at a mass-market level), then current 3D displays will not only be outdated...they will be flat-out be incompatibile

ryanjoachim · May 2010

mystik610 wrote: »

There's a stark difference between something being out-dated, and something no longer being supported.

Take the original iPhone, for instance. I was an early adopter to the iPhone, and though its out-dated, because its still supported by Apple, I still get a lot of use from it.

My HD-DVD player, however, is no longer being supported. Other than playing old HD-DVD's, it isn't useful anymore. Blu-ray eventually became the standard format for high definition physical media.

The fact is, there's no standardization of 3D video content yet (if ever)...it will not succeed beyond a niche market level until the technology is standardized in a way that makes wide-spread distribution feasible. If a method of 3D display that doesn't require glasses becomes the standard (which is what it will take for 3D to be successful at a mass-market level), then current 3D displays will not only be outdated...they will be flat-out be incompatibile

For your iPhone argument: your phone is only what...3 years old? Apple still supports it for NOW, but they've already stated that original iPhones before the 3Gs won't be getting the new OS, and past that i'm sure support will start dwindling. It's the nature of technology. Your phone wasn't (and still isn't) a niche product (even when it was released, the cell phone market was already in a huge boom), and therefor was guaranteed support based on the popularity of the product.

The way 3D movies are made hasn't really changed in 50 years, and probably won't change much in the coming future. That means that the way they are broadcasted will remain the same. The technology used to display and project them will evolve and change, but that's not to say that they won't continue to be compatible.

Because a 3D picture is created the same way for a glass-free TV as for a glasses-required tv, the "older" style of glass-required will continue to be compatible even after the glass-free becomes mainstream simply because the actual PICTURE being sent to the TV remains the same.

3d will be here forever !!! So get on board

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