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  • erniejade
    erniejade Posts: 6,321
    edited March 2010
    I also forgot to mention, I have a friend that drives his with a sansiu 9090db and sometimes with a g-8700

    Actually they sound quite good on the g8700!!
  • nooshinjohn
    nooshinjohn Posts: 26,064
    edited March 2010
    erniejade wrote: »
    I also forgot to mention, I have a friend that drives his with a sansiu 9090db and sometimes with a g-8700

    Actually they sound quite good on the g8700!!

    +1 on the Sansui... I had (briefly:() a Sansui Au20000, which was absolutly spectacular on my 2.3TL's. I can only imagine what this would have sounded like on the 1.2's;)

    Check your stack of stuff. Chances are you may already have magic waiting to happen in there somewhere.:cool:
    The Gear... Carver "Statement" Mono-blocks, Mcintosh C2800 Arcam AVR20, Oppo UDP-203 4K Blu-ray player, Sony XBR70x850B 4k, Polk Audio Legend L800 with height modules, L400 Center Channel Polk audio AB800 "in-wall" surrounds. Marantz MM7025 stereo amp. Simaudio Moon MiND2 Shunyata Triton/Typhon Rotel RP9400 Turntable

    “When once a Republic is corrupted, there is no possibility of remedying any of the growing evils but by removing the corruption and restoring its lost principles; every other correction is either useless or a new evil.”— Thomas Jefferson


    How many flies need to be buzzing a dead horse before you guys stop beating it?
  • davis419b
    davis419b Posts: 61
    edited March 2010
    I already own 3 - 9090db,s and a Yamaha CR-3020 which produces 160 wpc @ 8 ohms. This is what I would like to use until I get the right amp and preamp. This is a huge receiver measuring 25" lomg and weighing 85 lbs. It is a monster and should drive them pretty well for now. I have no idea what the wpc will be at 6 ohm
  • nooshinjohn
    nooshinjohn Posts: 26,064
    edited March 2010
    As I said... sounds like you already have that covered. Try them with a 9090 and see what you think. I bet you are good to go and don't even know it yet.
    The Gear... Carver "Statement" Mono-blocks, Mcintosh C2800 Arcam AVR20, Oppo UDP-203 4K Blu-ray player, Sony XBR70x850B 4k, Polk Audio Legend L800 with height modules, L400 Center Channel Polk audio AB800 "in-wall" surrounds. Marantz MM7025 stereo amp. Simaudio Moon MiND2 Shunyata Triton/Typhon Rotel RP9400 Turntable

    “When once a Republic is corrupted, there is no possibility of remedying any of the growing evils but by removing the corruption and restoring its lost principles; every other correction is either useless or a new evil.”— Thomas Jefferson


    How many flies need to be buzzing a dead horse before you guys stop beating it?
  • davis419b
    davis419b Posts: 61
    edited March 2010
    I went and picked up the SRS,s tonight. The guy told me tonight he was the original qwner but has not been able to locate the manuel yet. When I got these inside and was able to get a good look at them they are great shape. There are some stains on the face of the crossover panel that I cant figure out. At this point I had looked at them long enough it was time to hear them. I just happened to have Sansui 8080db hooked up next to them so all I had to do was plug them in and sit back. Ay only 85 wpc I knew I didnt have the recommended power but I wanted to see what they sounded like. I popped in a cd and I coulndnt beleive it, they sound amazing. The bass was way more than I expected. Everything about them sounded absolutely great. I cant wait till tomorrow when I double the power with the Yamaha cr-3020.
  • NJPOLKER
    NJPOLKER Posts: 3,475
    edited March 2010
    Congratulations

    Those are a fine pair of speakers. I hope you understand that when the guys suggest moving up the chain and away from receivers its only because it will better your listening experience. I doubt there is a receiver that can truly do those speakers justice. If you were to move to a tube integrated amp you may fall in love with it. Audiogon has some nice pieces listed all the time. Good luck and enjoy.

    By the way where are you from?
  • davis419b
    davis419b Posts: 61
    edited March 2010
    NJPOLKER wrote: »
    Congratulations

    Those are a fine pair of speakers. I hope you understand that when the guys suggest moving up the chain and away from receivers its only because it will better your listening experience. I doubt there is a receiver that can truly do those speakers justice. If you were to move to a tube integrated amp you may fall in love with it. Audiogon has some nice pieces listed all the time. Good luck and enjoy.

    By the way where are you from?

    I am from Dallas, Tx. I am in search of a bigger amp. I am really leaning towards Carver but in the meantime I have to listen to them. Oddly enough I have played them pretty loud so far and onlyseems to be usind about 50 watts. The bass is unbelievable and I am a big bass fan. On all my Klipsch I use the loundness option, this is the first set of speakers I have bought that doest need it. It seems to be lacking in the highs probablly from lack of power. I have a totally restored Marantz 2325 that I am going try next, it is 125 wpc then I am move up to the Yamaha CR-3020 at 160 wpc. Its goona be a blast trying different receivers with them and moving up in power a step at a time watching them improve. I will find the correct amp and preamp but I wanna make sure it is the right combination. From what I am reading I am not affraid to try bi-amping either !
  • F1nut
    F1nut Posts: 52,152
    edited March 2010
    You seem to have the common misconception that more watts equals better sound, it doesn't.

    I'm sure the high's seem tame compared to what you are use to. Horns and SS amplification generally result in what we call ear bleeding sound. Horns and tube gear generally result in a more pleasing sound.

    BTW, It's not from a lack of power as tweeters require very little power to sing.
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  • NJPOLKER
    NJPOLKER Posts: 3,475
    edited March 2010
    Dallas is a city I want to visit one day. Seems to be a beautiful city with lots of beautiful women.

    I know I suggested this before but you really need to concentrate on a excellent power source and a pre-amp. When I was running my SRS2's with the following units I progressively heard better and better sound. The better the power supply the better they sounded and sound great at lower levels too.
    I had used a Cambridge Audio A500 integrated amp at maybe 65 wpc and they sound nice but this fine little IA didn't do them justice. I gotta say for a little guy this IA is great.
    Then a Carver M-1.5t at 350 wpc and things picked up a little but not what I wanted/expected. Maybe it is because this amp is old and needs to be re-capped.
    Then a Adcom 5400 with a Adcom 450 pre and that was a nice combination but for me lacked the raw power I needed.
    Now I have a Belles 350a that is awesome. High current, excellent design and damn good when it comes to controlling all those drivers. Yeah it cost more than a average amp but your not driving average speakers. Anything short of a high current, high powered, high quality amp and your cheating yourself and your speakers. Of course if you go to a tube amp you don't have to concern yourself as much with the power, so to speak.
    A high quality Amp/tube Pre-amp combo will take you to a new world. Of course you'll need IC's to match the performance too. It does not seem to end :)
    Have fun with what ever you do.
  • hearingimpared
    hearingimpared Posts: 21,136
    edited March 2010
    F1nut wrote: »
    You seem to have the common misconception that more watts equals better sound, it doesn't.

    I'm sure the high's seem tame compared to what you are use to. Horns and SS amplification generally result in what we call ear bleeding sound. Horns and tube gear generally result in a more pleasing sound.

    BTW, It's not from a lack of power as tweeters require very little power to sing.

    A bit off topic here but that is the first impression I got when I changed the SL3000s to RD0198s. After break-in I found the sound of the RD0s so much more pleasing than the brassy sound of the 3000s. Actually the RD0s sounded hollow until they broke-in.
  • BAD ASP
    BAD ASP Posts: 361
    edited March 2010
    I have moved up the food chain of amplification and can only add the following to what my CP brothers have said. I started with an Onkyo at 80wpc then to a Denon 5700 at 140 wpc then to a Sunfire 2 X 300 finally to the Sunfire Signature at 425 wpc. My observations are that, yes the more wattage the louder you can make it but the more important aspect, to me, was the clarity and soundstage width and depth at normal listening levels. The improvement in SQ as the wattage increased was pretty dramatic. Subtle background sounds that were non existent in the Onkyo became beautifully displayed with the Sunfires. I usually use a RS db meter and set my listening levels to about 88 db's. The most noteable aspect is the soundstage width and depth with the 1.2's. It is literally like having headphones on with sounds coming from the entire breadth and width of an 18'0" X 8'0" wall. The more intriguing part to me is all of the subtle little sounds like drumstick strikes, fingers sliding on strings, singers breathing etc, etc. are the beauty of high quality sound not just loud. FWIW my 2c.
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    Side surround amp: Sunfire 2 X 300
    Processor: sunfire theater grand V
    Fronts:: polk sda-srs 1.2
    Rears: Polk LSiFX
    Side surrounds: Fxi5
    Center: (2)polk LSiC's
    Sub: svs pb-13 rosenut
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  • erniejade
    erniejade Posts: 6,321
    edited March 2010
    You might be better off with the marantz or the sansui. the Yammy might have more power but I personally find the 3020 a bit on the thin sounding side where the 9090 or the 2325 much more full sounding.

    Just my opinion.
  • Vette C6.r
    Vette C6.r Posts: 1,560
    edited March 2010
    F1nut wrote: »

    I'm sure the high's seem tame compared to what you are use to.


    Jesse I was looking for my treble knob. Did you take it so I couldn't turn it up ???
  • hearingimpared
    hearingimpared Posts: 21,136
    edited March 2010
    Vette C6.r wrote: »
    Jesse I was looking for my treble knob. Did you take it so I couldn't turn it up ???

    He probably covered it in place first with crazy glue then a sliver hot glue to camouflage it!:D
  • davis419b
    davis419b Posts: 61
    edited April 2010
    erniejade wrote: »
    You might be better off with the marantz or the sansui. the Yammy might have more power but I personally find the 3020 a bit on the thin sounding side where the 9090 or the 2325 much more full sounding.

    Just my opinion.

    I tried the Marantz 2325 and it is definately out. Then I tried the Yamaha cr-3020 and it was good but not as good as the Sansui 8080db. It is amazing how good these speakers sound with the Sansui. Not having alot of luck finding big Carvers yet. Not really sure yet how the tweeter aray works just yet. It seems as though the second one down on the left speaker and the third one down on the right speaker are not working.
  • davis419b
    davis419b Posts: 61
    edited April 2010
    I have been listening to these SRS 1.2's for a little while now and just love them ! the highs seem to be a little shy, looks like I might have to upgrade to the 194's. I pulled one of these tweeters and they are the SL 3000"s.
  • nooshinjohn
    nooshinjohn Posts: 26,064
    edited April 2010
    davis419b wrote: »
    I tried the Marantz 2325 and it is definately out. Then I tried the Yamaha cr-3020 and it was good but not as good as the Sansui 8080db. It is amazing how good these speakers sound with the Sansui. Not having alot of luck finding big Carvers yet. Not really sure yet how the tweeter aray works just yet. It seems as though the second one down on the left speaker and the third one down on the right speaker are not working.

    Forget the Carver stuff and go for a Sansui AU 20000 or perhaps the BA 5000.

    I would like to shoot myself in the head for letting the AU20000 I had get away.:cool:
    The Gear... Carver "Statement" Mono-blocks, Mcintosh C2800 Arcam AVR20, Oppo UDP-203 4K Blu-ray player, Sony XBR70x850B 4k, Polk Audio Legend L800 with height modules, L400 Center Channel Polk audio AB800 "in-wall" surrounds. Marantz MM7025 stereo amp. Simaudio Moon MiND2 Shunyata Triton/Typhon Rotel RP9400 Turntable

    “When once a Republic is corrupted, there is no possibility of remedying any of the growing evils but by removing the corruption and restoring its lost principles; every other correction is either useless or a new evil.”— Thomas Jefferson


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  • davis419b
    davis419b Posts: 61
    edited April 2010
    Forget the Carver stuff and go for a Sansui AU 20000 or perhaps the BA 5000.

    I would like to shoot myself in the head for letting the AU20000 I had get away.:cool:

    I would love to have a BA-5000 but I think its more than I want to spend. I have a friend who has one totally restored and he says it sounds awesome ! I will look for an AU-20000. Its unbelievable how good these sound with the little Sansui 8080db. The bass is just outstanding with the loudness off and the control set to flat. I cant imagine it getting better but will try different gear and see what happens !
  • Hypnotoad
    Hypnotoad Posts: 44
    edited April 2010
    davis419b wrote: »
    As far as what would I have to put this way. I have 14 pair of klipsch speakers which 4 of them are Klipschons in my home theater. I have 21 vintage 70's receivers in cluding Sansui, Marantz, Pioneer, Kenwood, Yamaha and Harman Kardon im my collection. I am not afraid to spend money but I just wanna be sure it was well spent. All others rooms including the garage have Klispch speaakers with Sansui receivers. My living room is going to be the Polk Audio room and I hope it sounds the best !

    Thanks, Don

    You need help.

    Help to clear all that stuff out, that is, if you have a nice vintage Sansui or even better a Luxman to sell let me know.
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  • hearingimpared
    hearingimpared Posts: 21,136
    edited April 2010
    davis419b wrote: »
    I have been listening to these SRS 1.2's for a little while now and just love them ! the highs seem to be a little shy, looks like I might have to upgrade to the 194's. I pulled one of these tweeters and they are the SL 3000"s.

    I'm confused! You say they are 1.2s but when you pulled the tweeter they have SL 3000s.:confused: SL3000s came with 1.2TLs. So you would get the RD0198s which are far better than the 194s.
  • davis419b
    davis419b Posts: 61
    edited April 2010
    I'm confused! You say they are 1.2s but when you pulled the tweeter they have SL 3000s.:confused: SL3000s came with 1.2TLs. So you would get the RD0198s which are far better than the 194s.

    You think you are confused I am really confused. They definately say 1.2 on the back. Can you tell by the serial numbers, here they are. SRS 1.2 ser # L6108 and R6108. I am going to try and put up some pics !
  • nooshinjohn
    nooshinjohn Posts: 26,064
    edited April 2010
    they are 1.2TL's.... congrats!
    The Gear... Carver "Statement" Mono-blocks, Mcintosh C2800 Arcam AVR20, Oppo UDP-203 4K Blu-ray player, Sony XBR70x850B 4k, Polk Audio Legend L800 with height modules, L400 Center Channel Polk audio AB800 "in-wall" surrounds. Marantz MM7025 stereo amp. Simaudio Moon MiND2 Shunyata Triton/Typhon Rotel RP9400 Turntable

    “When once a Republic is corrupted, there is no possibility of remedying any of the growing evils but by removing the corruption and restoring its lost principles; every other correction is either useless or a new evil.”— Thomas Jefferson


    How many flies need to be buzzing a dead horse before you guys stop beating it?
  • Toolfan66
    Toolfan66 Posts: 18,290
    edited April 2010
    Yep 1.2tl's you want RDO-198's
  • davis419b
    davis419b Posts: 61
    edited April 2010
    Yep 1.2tl's you want RDO-198's

    How can you tell ? Is it normal for Polk not to put the TL on the tags. I am very happy about being able to go with the 198's. I am guessing these are available from Polk !
  • nooshinjohn
    nooshinjohn Posts: 26,064
    edited April 2010
    Not only was it normal... It was COMMONPLACE.

    The SL-3000 tweeters denote the TL designation
    The Gear... Carver "Statement" Mono-blocks, Mcintosh C2800 Arcam AVR20, Oppo UDP-203 4K Blu-ray player, Sony XBR70x850B 4k, Polk Audio Legend L800 with height modules, L400 Center Channel Polk audio AB800 "in-wall" surrounds. Marantz MM7025 stereo amp. Simaudio Moon MiND2 Shunyata Triton/Typhon Rotel RP9400 Turntable

    “When once a Republic is corrupted, there is no possibility of remedying any of the growing evils but by removing the corruption and restoring its lost principles; every other correction is either useless or a new evil.”— Thomas Jefferson


    How many flies need to be buzzing a dead horse before you guys stop beating it?
  • davis419b
    davis419b Posts: 61
    edited April 2010
    Not only was it normal... It was COMMONPLACE.

    The SL-3000 tweeters denote the TL designation

    GREAT !! I am now a very happy camper knowing these are the best of the best. A special thanks to everyone who has helped me out with information and suggestions. It has really helped alot !
  • hearingimpared
    hearingimpared Posts: 21,136
    edited April 2010
    Yep as stated above they are TLs and John is right it happened often.
  • timmyd
    timmyd Posts: 26
    edited April 2010
    cnh wrote: »
    Anything that puts out at least 300 watts into 8ohms/channel and is stable at 4 ohms....

    Example....Larry is running his with an Adcom GFA-5802 300 x 2 at 8 ohms...

    but more importantly 450 watts at 4 ohms! That would do it.

    cnh

    I drive my srs 1.2 with a pioneer spec 4(150 w per chanel),and I hardly ever saw the power meter reach 50w,and that's pretty loud for me,my question is why do I need a 300 w per chanel amp?
    Please explain to me
    Thank
  • bluecomet
    bluecomet Posts: 1,118
    edited April 2010
    If they are SRS 1.2's the speakers are 6 ohm. Your pioneer is putting out more watts per channel than 150 at 8 ohms. Probably in the 175 range. It is decent for these speakers but you would get a fuller sound with a solid state amp in the 200+ range. Many of us use 200+ watt amps to experience the complete range of these speakers. Is it mandatory to have one no. Would your speakers benefit from one yes. If you go with a tube amp, you don't need many watts to power the speakers properly. If you live close to your neighbors, I doubt if you would want to play your speakers that loud. So if you enjoy them and like the sound sit back and enjoy the music. There is always someone who is going to tell you about a better amp or speakers. If you go down that road you will never be satisfied. If you feel your system is lacking there are many opinions here to try and help you.
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  • timmyd
    timmyd Posts: 26
    edited April 2010