Dolby TrueHD + DTS-HD vs Dolby Digital + DTS

Dan2036
Dan2036 Posts: 148
edited February 2010 in Electronics
Is their any audible difference between the two formats ? Compressed vs Uncompressed and Dolby vs DTS ?
TV- Samsung 24" LCD T240HD
5.1 Receiver - Harman/Kardon AVR 247
Stereo Receiver - Harman/Kardon 3390
Front - Monitor 60
Center - Cs10
Surround - Tsi100
Sub - SVS PB10-NSD :D
Playstation 3
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  • keeneyrm01
    keeneyrm01 Posts: 80
    edited January 2010
    Dolby vs. DTS- yeah
    compressed vs. uncompressed- yeah
    Dolby True HD vs. DTS-HD- not so much
    HT basement room:
    TV- 42in Panasonic S1 Plasma
    A/V Receiver- Onkyo NR807
    Blu-Ray- 80GB Sony PS3
    Power Supply- Monster HTS-1600
    5 Disc Sony CD/DVD Changer
    Time Warner HD Cable Box
    Speakers:
    Front- Polk RTi A3
    Center- Polk CSi3
    Side Surround- Polk RTi4
    Back Surround- Polk RM6750
    Sub- Outlaw Audio LFM-1 EX
    Bedroom:
    32in Visio LCD, Sony STR-DE685 AVR, MTX Monitor 12, Sony 5 disc DVD changer
  • Dan2036
    Dan2036 Posts: 148
    edited January 2010
    Which ones are better (in your opinions) as far as DTS vs Dolby ? How big is the difference between compressed and uncompressed ?
    TV- Samsung 24" LCD T240HD
    5.1 Receiver - Harman/Kardon AVR 247
    Stereo Receiver - Harman/Kardon 3390
    Front - Monitor 60
    Center - Cs10
    Surround - Tsi100
    Sub - SVS PB10-NSD :D
    Playstation 3
  • BlueFox
    BlueFox Posts: 15,251
    edited January 2010
    Dan2036 wrote: »
    Which ones are better (in your opinions) as far as DTS vs Dolby ? How big is the difference between compressed and uncompressed ?


    Uncompressed, there is no difference between Dolby True HD and DTS-HD. They are just two methods to compress the same file, and give the same uncompressed lossless results.

    For a regular DVD, which uses lossy compression, I prefered DTS over Dolby. It just seems a bit better, but few DVDs offer DTS.
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  • keeneyrm01
    keeneyrm01 Posts: 80
    edited January 2010
    for regular dolby digital and dts, dts seems better for most movies. The DTS format is said to use less compression than dolby so it is a little more engaging. The uncompressed formats are pretty much the same because they are "lossless" meaning they are exactly the same as when the movie was made for theaters, nothing is lost or compressed. Its a pretty big difference between compressed formats and non-compressed.
    HT basement room:
    TV- 42in Panasonic S1 Plasma
    A/V Receiver- Onkyo NR807
    Blu-Ray- 80GB Sony PS3
    Power Supply- Monster HTS-1600
    5 Disc Sony CD/DVD Changer
    Time Warner HD Cable Box
    Speakers:
    Front- Polk RTi A3
    Center- Polk CSi3
    Side Surround- Polk RTi4
    Back Surround- Polk RM6750
    Sub- Outlaw Audio LFM-1 EX
    Bedroom:
    32in Visio LCD, Sony STR-DE685 AVR, MTX Monitor 12, Sony 5 disc DVD changer
  • Dan2036
    Dan2036 Posts: 148
    edited January 2010
    Good to know thanks for the help guys
    TV- Samsung 24" LCD T240HD
    5.1 Receiver - Harman/Kardon AVR 247
    Stereo Receiver - Harman/Kardon 3390
    Front - Monitor 60
    Center - Cs10
    Surround - Tsi100
    Sub - SVS PB10-NSD :D
    Playstation 3
  • keeneyrm01
    keeneyrm01 Posts: 80
    edited January 2010
    Dan i was looking at your equipment in your sig and see you use ps3. If you haven't used the lossless audio formats with it yet and are going to, you need to make sure your audio settings on PS3 are set to Linear PCM through HDMI to get the lossless formats... unless you have the new slim ps3.
    HT basement room:
    TV- 42in Panasonic S1 Plasma
    A/V Receiver- Onkyo NR807
    Blu-Ray- 80GB Sony PS3
    Power Supply- Monster HTS-1600
    5 Disc Sony CD/DVD Changer
    Time Warner HD Cable Box
    Speakers:
    Front- Polk RTi A3
    Center- Polk CSi3
    Side Surround- Polk RTi4
    Back Surround- Polk RM6750
    Sub- Outlaw Audio LFM-1 EX
    Bedroom:
    32in Visio LCD, Sony STR-DE685 AVR, MTX Monitor 12, Sony 5 disc DVD changer
  • wutadumsn23
    wutadumsn23 Posts: 3,702
    edited January 2010
    keeneyrm01 wrote: »
    Dan i was looking at your equipment in your sig and see you use ps3. If you haven't used the lossless audio formats with it yet and are going to, you need to make sure your audio settings on PS3 are set to Linear PCM through HDMI to get the lossless formats... unless you have the new slim ps3.

    +1, the older PS3's won't bitstream, only pass the signal via LPCM. I have heard both the newer codecs and I honestly don't have a preference for one or the other, they both sound amazing.


    -Jeff
    HT Rig
    Receiver- Onkyo TX-SR806
    Mains- Polk Audio Monitor 70
    Center- Polk Audio CS2
    Surrounds- Polk Audio TSi 500's :D
    Sub- Polk Audio PSW125
    Retired- Polk Audio Monitor 40's
    T.V.- 60" Sony SXRD KDS-60A2000 LCoS
    Blu-Ray- 80 GB PS3


    2 CH rig (in progress)
    Polk Audio Monitor 10A's :cool:

    It's not that I'm insensitive, I just don't care.. :D
  • Dan2036
    Dan2036 Posts: 148
    edited February 2010
    Ya thanks took me awhile to figure that one out but i think i finally have it working, Tried it out today and i really feel that the system see's a huge boost in bass frequencies, way fuller sound
    TV- Samsung 24" LCD T240HD
    5.1 Receiver - Harman/Kardon AVR 247
    Stereo Receiver - Harman/Kardon 3390
    Front - Monitor 60
    Center - Cs10
    Surround - Tsi100
    Sub - SVS PB10-NSD :D
    Playstation 3
  • keeneyrm01
    keeneyrm01 Posts: 80
    edited February 2010
    Yeah i was missing out on the lossless formats too when i first hooked mine up cause it was set to bitstream but what a difference it makes when its set up right and getting the HD formats.
    HT basement room:
    TV- 42in Panasonic S1 Plasma
    A/V Receiver- Onkyo NR807
    Blu-Ray- 80GB Sony PS3
    Power Supply- Monster HTS-1600
    5 Disc Sony CD/DVD Changer
    Time Warner HD Cable Box
    Speakers:
    Front- Polk RTi A3
    Center- Polk CSi3
    Side Surround- Polk RTi4
    Back Surround- Polk RM6750
    Sub- Outlaw Audio LFM-1 EX
    Bedroom:
    32in Visio LCD, Sony STR-DE685 AVR, MTX Monitor 12, Sony 5 disc DVD changer
  • wutadumsn23
    wutadumsn23 Posts: 3,702
    edited February 2010
    With LPCM, you won't get the display to show "Dolby TrueHD" or "DTS HDMA" but all you have to do is press the select button on the PS3 controller and on the top right of the screen it will tell you what format it is playing in.

    -Jeff
    HT Rig
    Receiver- Onkyo TX-SR806
    Mains- Polk Audio Monitor 70
    Center- Polk Audio CS2
    Surrounds- Polk Audio TSi 500's :D
    Sub- Polk Audio PSW125
    Retired- Polk Audio Monitor 40's
    T.V.- 60" Sony SXRD KDS-60A2000 LCoS
    Blu-Ray- 80 GB PS3


    2 CH rig (in progress)
    Polk Audio Monitor 10A's :cool:

    It's not that I'm insensitive, I just don't care.. :D
  • digitalvideo
    digitalvideo Posts: 983
    edited February 2010
    keeneyrm01 wrote: »
    Dan i was looking at your equipment in your sig and see you use ps3. If you haven't used the lossless audio formats with it yet and are going to, you need to make sure your audio settings on PS3 are set to Linear PCM through HDMI to get the lossless formats... unless you have the new slim ps3.

    I have a Pioneer Elite Pro-111fd and Pro-15fd plasma and they have the option in the Sound Setup to set it to Dolby or PCM on the tv. Does that make a difference when watching HD cable tv through HDMI?