If im on a Budget for a projector Do I want 1080p over 720p

Polkie918
Polkie918 Posts: 245
edited November 2009 in Electronics
Id like to get 1080p but there is no way i can go over 800 or so for one so im thinking that will bring me down to a 720p if im only sitting approx 15 feet back is that gonna make a difference? gonna watch lots of blu rays and video game on ps3 and xbox 360


whats the good brands and model please I not sure how to look it up cause there are so many...HDMI if course.

thanks
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Sub- Velodyne 12"
Onkyo TX-SR806
Ps3
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65" DLP 1080P Toshiba TV
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  • buymesome
    buymesome Posts: 281
    edited November 2009
    I will sell you this for $ 550

    http://www.projectorcentral.com/panasonic_ax200u_home_theater_projector.htm

    Here is where I bought it

    http://www.projectorpeople.com/panasonic-pt-ax200u/
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  • ben62670
    ben62670 Posts: 15,969
    edited November 2009
    I have a 480p that works decent for movies, but text sucks bad. I would go for the 1080. Ebay has a few sellers that sell new projectors cheap. Read the reviews on newegg, and compare prices on Ebay.
    Please. Please contact me a ben62670 @ yahoo.com. Make sure to include who you are, and you are from Polk so I don't delete your email. Also I am now physically unable to work on any projects. If you need help let these guys know. There are many people who will help if you let them know where you are.
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  • apphd
    apphd Posts: 1,514
    edited November 2009
    I'm not the right person to talk PJs but I think most times users are projecting a pretty large image. The 15' distance probably is a little help but if you are looking at image sizes greater than 50" diagonal, you probably would see a nice improvement with 1080p source material if you use a 1080p projector.
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  • buymesome
    buymesome Posts: 281
    edited November 2009
    Other options are the epsons but with all normal 720 dlp an lcd your going to have a horrible screen door effect except with any panasonic . They have no pixel structure I have 3 pj,s and the panasonic is just as good as the 1080p model I own asnd better ifor games and bluray ,sports with the lights on when there is company over
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  • PSOVLSK
    PSOVLSK Posts: 5,372
    edited November 2009
    I went from a Panasonic AE-900U to an Epson 1600 and the difference is not dramatic. Of course the Epson is better, but the Panasonic threw a nice picture.

    I have about a 100" screen from about 13' away.

    If it were me, I'd get the best 720p I find in my price range...but I'm very impatient. A smart person would wait and save a few more $$ to get a 1080p.
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  • buymesome
    buymesome Posts: 281
    edited November 2009
    The panasonic 900 is horrible
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  • madmax
    madmax Posts: 12,434
    edited November 2009
    I went with a used 720p for around $400. It's good enough for me, at least until such time I want to spend 3 times as much. It all depends on how perfect you want it to be and if you have to impress. 720p is certainly more than just watchable.
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  • TECHNOKID
    TECHNOKID Posts: 4,298
    edited November 2009
    I've been using a 720p with great satisfaction for the past 2 years. I mainly play HD DVD movies and upscaled DVDs and never had any issues or complaints from any of the viewers. you have to realize that LCD/Plasma and PJ users are looking for a different experience (LCD/Plasma = max HD resolution while PJ = big screen theater experience). While 720p on the big screen is a big thing for me, I couldn't see my self having the theater experience on a LCD/Plasma but I am not a gamer either.

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  • Sherardp
    Sherardp Posts: 8,038
    edited November 2009
    1080p very close to your price range, Optoma HD20, a bang for buck PJ and will shame 720p on a larger screen.



    http://www.projectorpeople.com/projectors/projdtls.asp?itemid=24765&itmname=Optoma+HD20

    Some user feedback

    http://forum.blu-ray.com/showthread.php?t=117674

    http://www.avsforum.com/avs-vb/showthread.php?t=1175774
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  • Sherardp
    Sherardp Posts: 8,038
    edited November 2009
    buymesome wrote: »
    Other options are the epsons but with all normal 720 dlp an lcd your going to have a horrible screen door effect except with any panasonic . They have no pixel structure I have 3 pj,s and the panasonic is just as good as the 1080p model I own asnd better ifor games and bluray ,sports with the lights on when there is company over

    False information. At 15 feet the OP should and most likely will not experience SDE. If your going to recommend Panny, do so without the expense of bashing a darn good name in the PJ industry.
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  • PSOVLSK
    PSOVLSK Posts: 5,372
    edited November 2009
    buymesome wrote: »
    The panasonic 900 is horrible

    Your opinion. It was a top rated PJ in it's price range when it was new and it served me well for 2 years.
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  • Polkie918
    Polkie918 Posts: 245
    edited November 2009
    well I want to get at least a 100" screen probably 106" i think thats the normal size...and im pretty sure if be the 15 feet back....i will use it for games too....
    Fronts- RTi8
    Center- CSi5
    Rears- FXiA4
    Sub- Velodyne 12"
    Onkyo TX-SR806
    Ps3
    Xbox 360
    65" DLP 1080P Toshiba TV
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  • dcmartinpc
    dcmartinpc Posts: 844
    edited November 2009
    I just picked up a Mitsubishi HC3000 for $200 because I was in the same boat you are right now. I wanted 1080p, but I am on a 720p budget right now. The Mitsu is 720p and I am running it at 92" right now. Viewing from more than 4 feet there is 0 screen door... The picture quality is outstanding! One nice thing about this projector is that it is 1280x768, which means you can run standard PC resolutions if you happen to be running a HTPC like I am. I run 1080p content through this, and I am sure it would be better through a 1080p projector, but it still looks phenomenal at 720p...

    An option that I looked into is the Optoma HD65 (720p). It gets great ratings and many people love it. Had I not run across this Mistu, I would have gotten one of these. I believe you can pick it up for $695...

    The HD20 from Optoma is also a great option if you are willing to shell out $1,000... Excellent cost to performance ratio....

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  • buymesome
    buymesome Posts: 281
    edited November 2009
    Sherardp wrote: »
    False information. At 15 feet the OP should and most likely will not experience SDE. If your going to recommend Panny, do so without the expense of bashing a darn good name in the PJ industry.
    What darn good names do I bash ? and in what way ? lol

    You say my informations on the SDE effect is false yet you use the words 'most likley ' wont see the SDE effect ? For my post to be true or false he either will or wont see it
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  • gdb
    gdb Posts: 6,012
    edited November 2009
    Will a Bluray player work properly with a 720P television or projector?? I thought that Blurays required a 1080P display.:confused:
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  • buymesome
    buymesome Posts: 281
    edited November 2009
    gdb wrote: »
    Will a Bluray player work properly with a 720P television or projector?? I thought that Blurays required a 1080P display.:confused:

    Nice thread jack lol

    Yes buy a bluray player and it should down scale it to 720p . But check the specks on the bdp just incase it was made in russia or india and doesnt have this option although it is highly unlikely
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  • gdb
    gdb Posts: 6,012
    edited November 2009
    Thanks! I didn't see it as a "jack" because there were several mentions of bluray use with a 720p projector in this thread. I just wanted some clarification as I'm going to be looking at players and 720 & 1080 TVs this holiday season.:)
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  • buymesome
    buymesome Posts: 281
    edited November 2009
    Are you getting a pj ? Tv's cant deliver

    If I could start over I would have kept my crt tv and bought a JVC 1080 pj with the money I used for the flat screens
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  • Sherardp
    Sherardp Posts: 8,038
    edited November 2009
    Well put it this way, he should not experience SDE on newer projectors. I mentioned the Optoma HD20 which is 1080p at 900 bucks. At 15 feet throw it will give him image size he wants and viewing from 10-12 feet will work perfectly.
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  • Sherardp
    Sherardp Posts: 8,038
    edited November 2009
    buymesome wrote: »
    Are you getting a pj ? Tv's cant deliver

    If I could start over I would have kept my crt tv and bought a JVC 1080 pj with the money I used for the flat screens

    JVC is a whole new level of experience. How's that Sony VW-50? :confused:
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  • buymesome
    buymesome Posts: 281
    edited November 2009
    Dull but ok for 90 inch . I will sell it soon for $1200 once the bulbs dead and I have 2300 hours on it running high power . One of my panasonic 200's died and I got 2800 hours out of it .I got the vw50 and the pt200 at the same time

    Right now I have options

    panasonic 4000 @ $2000
    epson 8500 @ 2300
    sony hw15 @ 3000 on credit from sony style

    The panasonic I am using now has what looks like a red mist at the very bottom of the image when theres a strong blank white image. I wonder if the lcd panels burned or if its dust .

    What ever the case I dont feel safe with lcd tech any more
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  • Sherardp
    Sherardp Posts: 8,038
    edited November 2009
    buymesome wrote: »
    Dull but ok for 90 inch . I will sell it soon for $1200 once the bulbs dead and I have 2300 hours on it running high power . One of my panasonic 200's died and I got 2800 hours out of it .I got the vw50 and the pt200 at the same time

    Right now I have options

    panasonic 4000 @ $2000
    epson 8500 @ 2300
    sony hw15 @ 3000 on credit from sony style

    The panasonic I am using now has what looks like a red mist at the very bottom of the image when theres a strong blank white image. I wonder if the lcd panels burned or if its dust .

    What ever the case I dont feel safe with lcd tech any more

    A good screen could be an asset to your setup over goo. Something to think about there. I personally don't think the problem lies in the LCD tech itself. Panny models have been known for dust blobs and panel failures in the past. Not sure about the newer 2k/3k/4k models, but less have been reported. If you really want to try something different save your money and buy a used JVC HD1, now that's something special.
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  • Krazyz1
    Krazyz1 Posts: 256
    edited November 2009
    Be cautious of whatever you buy. Research specs. at Company web site. Example on a Panasonic 50" depending on what model , vertical lines of resolution was AS LOW as 600. All the way up to 1080 VLR. Buyer beware. Just cause it says 1080 or 720 CHECK VLR. That's why you see for example 3 50' same brand T.V.'s at different prices. IT's FOR A REASON!
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  • Sherardp
    Sherardp Posts: 8,038
    edited November 2009
    Krazyz1 wrote: »
    Be cautious of whatever you buy. Research specs. at Company web site. Example on a Panasonic 50" depending on what model , vertical lines of resolution was AS LOW as 600. All the way up to 1080 VLR. Buyer beware. Just cause it says 1080 or 720 CHECK VLR. That's why you see for example 3 50' same brand T.V.'s at different prices. IT's FOR A REASON!

    Not an issue with projectors.
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  • TECHNOKID
    TECHNOKID Posts: 4,298
    edited November 2009
    Sherardp wrote: »
    1080p very close to your price range, Optoma HD20, a bang for buck PJ and will shame 720p on a larger screen.



    http://www.projectorpeople.com/projectors/projdtls.asp?itemid=24765&itmname=Optoma+HD20

    Some user feedback

    http://forum.blu-ray.com/showthread.php?t=117674

    http://www.avsforum.com/avs-vb/showthread.php?t=1175774
    +1 on the HD20, I paid ruffly the same price for my 720p few years ago and being satisfied with my 720p optoma, I fully agree with you this upgrade at the price is a no brainer. You are not buying High End but you get a good deal for the small $$ you are paying.
    Sherardp wrote: »
    False information. At 15 feet the OP should and most likely will not experience SDE. If your going to recommend Panny, do so without the expense of bashing a darn good name in the PJ industry.
    +1, Pannies are at the top of HT PJs in their price range.
    gdb wrote: »
    Will a Bluray player work properly with a 720P television or projector?? I thought that Blurays required a 1080P display.:confused:
    No problems what so ever, BDs will downscale to whatever signal your end visual gear will take. IE: My PJ is capble of 720p while my HD players are 1080p, both gear talk to ech other and the player will automatically downscale the resolution down to 720p.
    Sherardp wrote: »
    Well put it this way, he should not experience SDE on newer projectors. I mentioned the Optoma HD20 which is 1080p at 900 bucks. At 15 feet throw it will give him image size he wants and viewing from 10-12 feet will work perfectly.
    Yet, I found the best distance for my optoma was actually 13 feet. It could potentially go up to 15' away however your lens adjustment would be more likely maxed out not leaving any play for adjustment on the one way. I always like to keep a little adjustment for any potnetial issues that may arise.

    Cheers!
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  • mmadden28
    mmadden28 Posts: 4,283
    edited November 2009
    I have a Marantz VP4001 720p PJ (which has a ton of good reviews out there) to a 106" screen. Originally retailed for over $4k, I got it used at only a few months old for about 750 with only 150 hours on it.
    IIRC the PJ is mounted about 12' back. I haven't found the sweet spot yet for watching, but I think its a bit too close where my couch is now (at about 12'). Not so sure the action/motion is smooth enough for me - almost makes it hurt the eyes.
    I don't see any SDE unless I get up close to it if SDE is what I think it is.

    Gaming with the XBox360 it great. No real complaints there. Action/Motion is fine.

    Seems less sharp when watching BluRay or HDDVD. Less sharp in comparison to the sharpness I experience on my 1080p 52" Rear Projection DLP. I am elated that I have an HD PJ at all and its still pretty good, but I'm not satisfied to the point where I don't want an upgrade. One day I'll buy the big bad one (probably following whatever Sherardp does ;)), but for now, for the money, I'm good. Well as soon as I buy a new bulb dammit-darn kids leaving the PJ on all the time. I now have to decide to invest in a new bulb, or put that towards a newer 1080p PJ. I was thinking about an $8k floor model Runco 1080p PJ on sale for $4k recently....
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  • Sherardp
    Sherardp Posts: 8,038
    edited November 2009
    mmadden28 wrote: »
    One day I'll buy the big bad one (probably following whatever Sherardp does ;)), but for now, for the money, I'm good. Well as soon as I buy a new bulb dammit-darn kids leaving the PJ on all the time. I now have to decide to invest in a new bulb, or put that towards a newer 1080p PJ. I was thinking about an $8k floor model Runco 1080p PJ on sale for $4k recently....

    Not so sure about Runco MMadden. Seems you don't get much value for the money. And not to mislead you, that's just from reading up on the brand, as I have not experienced the brand so I could be very wrong. $4k can buy you allot of projector, to include the JVCs. I am a huge fan of JVC PJs but I have seen the Sony's, Panny's, and Epson's. To be honest, at 4K you can't go wrong with any brand really, I would say pick one. The Panny 4000 @ just under 2k seems to offer allot of value for the dollar. One to think on if you don't want to splurge much coin.
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  • mmadden28
    mmadden28 Posts: 4,283
    edited November 2009
    Thanks. Yeah well I wasn't really ready to drop $4k on a used PJ unless it was a helluva deal. I've only ever heard that Runco was the real man's projector, but I haven't done much research so I appreciate your insight. I'll say one thing for sure, its beastly big.
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