Oppo going exclusively Blu-ray?

Danny Tse
Danny Tse Posts: 5,206
edited October 2009 in Electronics
See this link....
Oppo, the maker of the acclaimed BDP-83 Blu-ray player, is expanding its BD business to the UK and has revealed that the company is no longer interested in developing DVD hardware. "We have sold out of DVD players and there are no more to come," said Oppo spokesman Pan Min to UK magazine Home Cinema Choice. "The DVD business is over for us. We are committed to Blu-ray."

Oppo is setting up a base in the UK to develop its Blu-ray business. The European version of its BD player, the BDP-831, is now available in the UK, priced at around £450.

"We may be a very small company," said Min, "but where we are different from the likes of Denon and Sony is that we listen to our customers. Feedback is really important."

Min revealed that Oppo currently has an engineering team of around 100 based in China working on its Blu-ray products.

Don't know if this will happen for the US. I think it may be time to pick up an Oppo 980.
Post edited by Danny Tse on

Comments

  • BlueFox
    BlueFox Posts: 15,250
    edited October 2009
    Makes sense. BRP can play DVDs. Probably is the start of an industry trend.
    Lumin X1 file player, Westminster Labs interconnect cable
    Sony XA-5400ES SACD; Pass XP-22 pre; X600.5 amps
    Magico S5 MKII Mcast Rose speakers; SPOD spikes

    Shunyata Triton v3/Typhon QR on source, Denali 2000 (2) on amps
    Shunyata Sigma XLR analog ICs, Sigma speaker cables
    Shunyata Sigma HC (2), Sigma Analog, Sigma Digital, Z Anaconda (3) power cables

    Mapleshade Samson V.3 four shelf solid maple rack, Micropoint brass footers
    Three 20 amp circuits.
  • dkg999
    dkg999 Posts: 5,647
    edited October 2009
    It's great that companies are now seeing enough demand for Blu-ray that they can make these investment decisions! Based on the quality of the audio from the BD concert video's I have picked up, I hope all this leads to a better 2 ch and multi-channel audio format, or at least an option that works with the Blu-ray format and doesn't require an SACD player.
    DKG999
    HT System: LSi9, LSiCx2, LSiFX, LSi7, SVS 20-39 PC+, B&K 507.s2 AVR, B&K Ref 125.2, Tripplite LCR-2400, Cambridge 650BD, Signal Cable PC/SC, BJC IC, Samsung 55" LED

    Music System: Magnepan 1.6QR, SVS SB12+, ARC pre, Parasound HCA1500 vertically bi-amped, Jolida CDP, Pro-Ject RM5.1SE TT, Pro-Ject TubeBox SE phono pre, SBT, PS Audio DLIII DAC
  • comfortablycurt
    comfortablycurt Posts: 6,745
    edited October 2009
    It's been headed toward this for a while now.

    With Blu-ray players dropping in price, it's inevitable. If you shop around for a deal, you can get a basic Blu-ray player for less than $100 now. With prices like that, it wouldn't make sense for them to produce both, especially with a smaller company like Oppo.

    As the technology advances, you'll be able to get a lot more features in a lower priced player too. Think back to when DVD players first came out...if you wanted a good one, you had to shell out some coin for it. The cheap ones were still there, but they lacked in quite a few areas.

    Look at DVD players now though...what would have cost 600-700 dollars 5-7 years ago, can now be had for $150. The same will be true of Blu-ray once they get more established.
    The nirvana inducer-
    APC H10 Power Conditioner
    Marantz UD5005 universal player
    Parasound Halo P5 preamp
    Parasound HCA-1200II power amp
    PolkAudio LSi9's/PolkAudio SDA 2A's/PolkAudio Monitor 7A's
    Audioquest Speaker Cables and IC's
  • vc69
    vc69 Posts: 2,500
    edited October 2009
    That comes as no surprise to me either.

    Thanks for the link Danny.
    -Kevin
    HT: Philips 52PFL7432D 52" LCD 1080p / Onkyo TX-SR 606 / Oppo BDP-83 SE / Comcast cable. (all HDMI)B&W 801 - Front, Polk CS350 LS - Center, Polk LS90 - Rear
    2 Channel:
    Oppo BDP-83 SE
    Squeezebox Touch
    Muscial Fidelity M1 DAC
    VTL 2.5
    McIntosh 2205 (refurbed)
    B&W 801's
    Transparent IC's
  • anhchungdoan
    anhchungdoan Posts: 760
    edited October 2009
    I am happy to see that they expand their market share. Oneday, we may see an OPPO AVR that beats the pant off Pio, Denon , Yamaha, Onkyo AVR and all. Good job, OPPO.
  • buymesome
    buymesome Posts: 281
    edited October 2009
    If oppo would have offerd a stand alone bdp for less cash thenI would have chosen it ofver my recently purchased denon2500btci

    Choice is always a good thing in this game
  • comfortablycurt
    comfortablycurt Posts: 6,745
    edited October 2009
    buymesome wrote: »
    If oppo would have offerd a stand alone bdp for less cash thenI would have chosen it ofver my recently purchased denon2500btci

    Choice is always a good thing in this game

    I'm sure they'll have one coming along soon enough. Oppo as a company is only 3-4 years old IIRC, so they're still new to the game.

    Eventually they'll come out with a better BR player too, and the BDP-83 will drop substantially in price.
    The nirvana inducer-
    APC H10 Power Conditioner
    Marantz UD5005 universal player
    Parasound Halo P5 preamp
    Parasound HCA-1200II power amp
    PolkAudio LSi9's/PolkAudio SDA 2A's/PolkAudio Monitor 7A's
    Audioquest Speaker Cables and IC's
  • vc69
    vc69 Posts: 2,500
    edited October 2009
    I'm sure they'll have one coming along soon enough. Oppo as a company is only 3-4 years old IIRC, so they're still new to the game.

    Eventually they'll come out with a better BR player too, and the BDP-83 will drop substantially in price.

    Interestingly, Oppo products don't seem to ever drop in price. They get superseded and still seem to hold their value quite well. Definitely an exception to the rule. Which seems to be this company's mantra.
    -Kevin
    HT: Philips 52PFL7432D 52" LCD 1080p / Onkyo TX-SR 606 / Oppo BDP-83 SE / Comcast cable. (all HDMI)B&W 801 - Front, Polk CS350 LS - Center, Polk LS90 - Rear
    2 Channel:
    Oppo BDP-83 SE
    Squeezebox Touch
    Muscial Fidelity M1 DAC
    VTL 2.5
    McIntosh 2205 (refurbed)
    B&W 801's
    Transparent IC's
  • Ron Temple
    Ron Temple Posts: 3,212
    edited October 2009
    I can see them adding a standalone BD player at a lower price point with similar audio features in line with the 980. I can see them coming out with a high end audio player down the road too, but I doubt they can improve the video performance. Maybe to include netstreaming and wireless. Can't see that happening for awhile though...don't want to dilute the 83 marketshare yet.

    Combo rig:

    Onkyo NR1007 pre-pro, Carver TFM 45(fronts), Carver TFM 35 (surrounds)
    SDA 1C, CS400i, SDA 2B
    PB13Ultra RO
    BW Silvers
    Oppo BDP-83SE
  • danz1906
    danz1906 Posts: 5,144
    edited October 2009
    That makes sense, Blu-Ray only.
    Linn AV5140 fronts
    Linn AV5120 Center
    Linn AV5140 Rears
    M&K MX-70 Sub for Music
    Odyssey Mono-Blocs
    SVS Ultra-13 Gloss Black:D
  • anhchungdoan
    anhchungdoan Posts: 760
    edited October 2009
    buymesome wrote: »
    If oppo would have offerd a stand alone bdp for less cash thenI would have chosen it ofver my recently purchased denon2500btci

    Choice is always a good thing in this game

    You have made a very good choice. Just remember your 2500 BTCI MSRP was $899.00 that one heck of a savings you've got.

    I have learned to save and keep my money and wait for the incredible deal on NIB closed-out deals.
  • apphd
    apphd Posts: 1,514
    edited October 2009
    Danny Tse wrote: »
    See this link....



    Don't know if this will happen for the US. I think it may be time to pick up an Oppo 980.

    Looks to be the case. I was checking their site (US) the other day and all they list for players are the BDP83 and the DV980.
  • Danny Tse
    Danny Tse Posts: 5,206
    edited October 2009
    The 980H DVD-based universal player are all gone, except for refurbished units.
  • billbillw
    billbillw Posts: 7,790
    edited October 2009
    Well, I hope they come out with a lower priced model than their current BluRay player. Oppo built their reputation on making affordable units that performed better than the competition. Sure, their current BluRay player is outperforming most of the competition (regardless of price), but the average consumer is still not going to spend $500 on a player. If they can come out with a $200 player that has BluRay output AND upscales as good as their old DVD players did, then they will have a winner. Most of the current crop of BluRay players under $500 are lousy upscalers.
  • vc69
    vc69 Posts: 2,500
    edited October 2009
    Mmmm...kay. I dunno about that. Oppo players have never been bargain priced. Actually quite the opposite. Kind of expensive (as DVD players go) but worth it. They have never been what I would call economy priced. They have always been considered a great value.

    There are some fair upscalers in the $200-$300 range. Blu-Ray perfomance is par with Oppo. There is competition at lower price points. None so far can hang with the -83 much less exceed. But it will soon happen.

    If they do come out with a lower price point BD player, I will be surprised.
    -Kevin
    HT: Philips 52PFL7432D 52" LCD 1080p / Onkyo TX-SR 606 / Oppo BDP-83 SE / Comcast cable. (all HDMI)B&W 801 - Front, Polk CS350 LS - Center, Polk LS90 - Rear
    2 Channel:
    Oppo BDP-83 SE
    Squeezebox Touch
    Muscial Fidelity M1 DAC
    VTL 2.5
    McIntosh 2205 (refurbed)
    B&W 801's
    Transparent IC's
  • billbillw
    billbillw Posts: 7,790
    edited October 2009
    vc69 wrote: »
    Mmmm...kay. I dunno about that. Oppo players have never been bargain priced. Actually quite the opposite. Kind of expensive (as DVD players go) but worth it. They have never been what I would call economy priced. They have always been considered a great value.

    There are some fair upscalers in the $200-$300 range. Blu-Ray perfomance is par with Oppo. There is competition at lower price points. None so far can hang with the -83 much less exceed. But it will soon happen.

    If they do come out with a lower price point BD player, I will be surprised.

    I never said economy priced. I said affordable. At the time Oppo first came out, their price was around $200-$250. Their picture quality equaled or bettered some of the Denon, Pioneer, Yamaha units that were selling for $600-$1000. To me, that's affordable. In the last couple years, Oppo had the 980 selling for $170 and it competed pretty well with the high end units that were still selling for significantly more.

    What are the fair scaling Bluray players you are referring to? I haven't seen any.
  • BlueFox
    BlueFox Posts: 15,250
    edited October 2009
    billbillw wrote: »
    Sure, their current BluRay player is outperforming most of the competition (regardless of price), but the average consumer is still not going to spend $500 on a player.

    Glad I'm not average. ;)

    This player saved me $1500.
    Lumin X1 file player, Westminster Labs interconnect cable
    Sony XA-5400ES SACD; Pass XP-22 pre; X600.5 amps
    Magico S5 MKII Mcast Rose speakers; SPOD spikes

    Shunyata Triton v3/Typhon QR on source, Denali 2000 (2) on amps
    Shunyata Sigma XLR analog ICs, Sigma speaker cables
    Shunyata Sigma HC (2), Sigma Analog, Sigma Digital, Z Anaconda (3) power cables

    Mapleshade Samson V.3 four shelf solid maple rack, Micropoint brass footers
    Three 20 amp circuits.
  • WilliamM2
    WilliamM2 Posts: 4,808
    edited October 2009
    billbillw wrote: »
    What are the fair scaling Bluray players you are referring to? I haven't seen any.

    Samsung had some models with the Reon chip for upscaling, Denon has some with ABT chips.

    I don't know why anyone would rule out Oppo making a less expensive player. They did offer three different DVD players at once, seems like they would do the same with BD. How many CE companies survive with just one product?

    I'm sure there is a market for a nice upscaling BD player without SACD and DVD-A capability.
  • vc69
    vc69 Posts: 2,500
    edited October 2009
    billbillw wrote: »
    I never said economy priced. I said affordable. At the time Oppo first came out, their price was around $200-$250. Their picture quality equaled or bettered some of the Denon, Pioneer, Yamaha units that were selling for $600-$1000. To me, that's affordable. In the last couple years, Oppo had the 980 selling for $170 and it competed pretty well with the high end units that were still selling for significantly more.

    What are the fair scaling Bluray players you are referring to? I haven't seen any.

    I think we basically agree here Bill. But I have heard the same argument over and over again.

    $250 was steep for a DVD player when Oppo introduced their player. Players could be had for next to nothing by then. Granted, the only similarity is that they played DVD's. Oppo's product was clearly superior to anyone in the know. But most people just want to watch a freaking movie.

    Same sort of thing applies here except BD performance is pretty equal across many players. It's the up-converting capabilities of this player plus the DVD-A/SACD capabilities that set it apart and make it a value buy.

    There are some good performers out there coming to market now that lack SACD, etc. but upscale pretty well. LG, Sony and JVC all have models that do pretty good. Not stellar, but acceptable to the average user looking for a 2-300 dollar player. The Oppo stuff has never appealed to the average user I don't think. And just as well, we get a better player for it if we are willing to pay Oppo's price. Which I agree, is a true value and a bargain at the asking price.

    I should add that it wouldn't make much marketing sense to price a player to compete with the -83 when it is their only offering and selling like hotcakes. I think this player may well launch Oppo past the niche status they have held previously. I only hope they maintain their QC and CS. I am a fanboi :o
    -Kevin
    HT: Philips 52PFL7432D 52" LCD 1080p / Onkyo TX-SR 606 / Oppo BDP-83 SE / Comcast cable. (all HDMI)B&W 801 - Front, Polk CS350 LS - Center, Polk LS90 - Rear
    2 Channel:
    Oppo BDP-83 SE
    Squeezebox Touch
    Muscial Fidelity M1 DAC
    VTL 2.5
    McIntosh 2205 (refurbed)
    B&W 801's
    Transparent IC's