12Volt Trigger cables

thsmith
thsmith Posts: 6,082
edited September 2009 in Electronics
My AVR(Denon 2808CI) has 12v trigger connectors as well as the outlet I am considering.

What kind of connectors/cables to you connect the AVR and outlet?

http://www.diguniverse.com/HOME-THEATER/DISTRIBUTED-AUDIO-AND-VIDEO/DHACT1.html

TIA
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  • polkie4life
    polkie4life Posts: 231
    edited June 2009
    Without knowing what you want to hook up. The 12v trigger uses a 3.5mm mono plug similar to a headphone plug, which is generally the same for all components. I use a similar cable to switch my power amp on automatically with my AVR.

    The switched outlet uses an elongated hex type plug from avr to an iec to another component. I use my switched outlet for my tuner.
    In terms of audio, i truly feel sorry for the visually impaired. How can they know what they like if they cant read google?


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  • polkie4life
    polkie4life Posts: 231
    edited June 2009
    A friend has no 12v trigger on his avr so had to use a dc convertor. It has the type of plug a switched outlet has, see in pic the plug middle right.

    http://search.digikey.com/scripts/DkSearch/dksus.dll?Detail&name=T945-P6P-ND
    In terms of audio, i truly feel sorry for the visually impaired. How can they know what they like if they cant read google?


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  • Hawkeye
    Hawkeye Posts: 1,313
    edited June 2009
    There are 2 types, mono and stereo. My gear requires 3.5 stereo wires for all the functions to work correctly. I had an oddball mono cable in my wire box and used in when setting up my gear. It took me 2 days to figure out what wire was causing the issue!

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  • jimmydep
    jimmydep Posts: 1,305
    edited June 2009
    I'm using standard 3.5mm stereo cables from my Yamaha AVR trigger to a Monster HTS5100 trigger then from that to an Emotiva 12v trigger, and all is well.
    According to the equiptment specs I can use either a Mono cable or the easier to find stereo cable.
    Jimmy
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  • polkatese
    polkatese Posts: 6,767
    edited June 2009
    Hawkeye wrote: »
    There are 2 types, mono and stereo. My gear requires 3.5 stereo wires for all the functions to work correctly. I had an oddball mono cable in my wire box and used in when setting up my gear. It took me 2 days to figure out what wire was causing the issue!

    Gordon

    I always thought that it only requires 3.5 mono to trigger. Isn't it just to trigger the relay in AMP with ON or OFF position? Interesting that yours require mini stereo. What power AMP do you have? (just curious)...
    I am sorry, I have no opinion on the matter. I am sure you do. So, don't mind me, I just want to talk audio and pie.
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  • thsmith
    thsmith Posts: 6,082
    edited June 2009
    Thanks All.

    Where can you buy or build such cables?
    Speakers: SDA-1C (most all the goodies)
    Preamp: Joule Electra LA-150 MKII SE
    Amp: Wright WPA 50-50 EAT KT88s
    Analog: Marantz TT-15S1 MBS Glider SL| Wright WPP100C Amperex BB 6er5 and 7316 & WPM-100 SUT
    Digital: Mac mini 2.3GHz dual-core i5 8g RAM 1.5 TB HDD Music Server Amarra (memory play) - USB - W4S DAC 2
    Cables: Mits S3 IC and Spk cables| PS Audio PCs
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  • polktiger
    polktiger Posts: 556
    edited June 2009
    thsmith wrote: »
    Thanks All.

    Where can you buy or build such cables?

    I suspect you can, but unless you need some super long cable you can get them for about $2 at radio shack
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  • thsmith
    thsmith Posts: 6,082
    edited June 2009
    Thanks, I may need one at least 10-12'. I will check with the shack
    Speakers: SDA-1C (most all the goodies)
    Preamp: Joule Electra LA-150 MKII SE
    Amp: Wright WPA 50-50 EAT KT88s
    Analog: Marantz TT-15S1 MBS Glider SL| Wright WPP100C Amperex BB 6er5 and 7316 & WPM-100 SUT
    Digital: Mac mini 2.3GHz dual-core i5 8g RAM 1.5 TB HDD Music Server Amarra (memory play) - USB - W4S DAC 2
    Cables: Mits S3 IC and Spk cables| PS Audio PCs
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  • lonwa
    lonwa Posts: 83
    edited June 2009
    This is probably a stupid question, but my Denon 2808CI has 2 mini audio plug ports for the trigger out, and my Parasound AMP has 4 raw wire screw blocks for its trigger in. Does this mean my Parasound can be started remotely by 2 different devices? I have never cut open the mini audio cable, but I would guess it has 2 wires inside. If so, how do i know which wires go to which terminal on the amp (or does it not matter)? I don't want to accidently fry my Parasound if I can help it.

    Looking at its manual does not explain the break down. Denon's website and manual also does not go into any detail.

    Thanks

    Lonwa
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  • unc2701
    unc2701 Posts: 3,587
    edited June 2009
    You won't fry the parasound- it's optically coupled.

    Anyhow, IIRC only the middle two screws are used; the right one is ground and the left one is +12v (but anything close to 12v will work). On the minicable the braid goes to the ground. If there's no braid, then get a volt meter and see which one is hot.
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  • Hawkeye
    Hawkeye Posts: 1,313
    edited June 2009
    polkatese wrote: »
    I always thought that it only requires 3.5 mono to trigger. Isn't it just to trigger the relay in AMP with ON or OFF position? Interesting that yours require mini stereo. What power AMP do you have? (just curious)...

    The how and why my gear requires a stereo wire to trigger is beyond my electrical knowledge :o. I do know that in my system data flows over the "trigger" wires from the controller>Transport>DAC>preamp. Not audio signals but control signals i.e. change tracks. I had the mono cable between my controller and transport and could get nothing to work correctly.

    My amps are a pair of McIntosh 501's and they are daisy chained with stereo 3.5 cords also.

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  • lukewayne
    lukewayne Posts: 80
    edited September 2009
    Hawkeye wrote: »
    The how and why my gear requires a stereo wire to trigger is beyond my electrical knowledge :o. I do know that in my system data flows over the "trigger" wires from the controller>Transport>DAC>preamp. Not audio signals but control signals i.e. change tracks. I had the mono cable between my controller and transport and could get nothing to work correctly.

    My amps are a pair of McIntosh 501's and they are daisy chained with stereo 3.5 cords also.

    Gordon

    i believe you are referring to the control port not the 12v trigger ports. control ports go by several names but basically send info that would normally be sent by remote control. like next track.
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