External Graphics Card?

Cpyder
Cpyder Posts: 514
edited August 2009 in Electronics
Recently I've been ripping a lot of movies and tv shows to my external hard drive in full DVD quality with menus and all. I'm trying to figure out how to display them on my home theater the best way.

For the sound, I've got an M-Audio Transit outputting optical to my receiver.

For the video, I could use my vga output but it seems like the quality isn't all that great, and if I'm using up to 8GB per movie, I won't settle for less than great.

Is there a good external graphics card for video? Or another option? I don't care about the speed as I won't be using it for gaming, just video.

I could rip them to DVD and use a dedicated DVD player but I'm trying to exhaust all other options as that would take a lot of time and money, for dual layer DVDs.

Please help! Thanks!!
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  • JohnLocke88
    JohnLocke88 Posts: 1,150
    edited August 2009
    http://www.wdc.com/en/products/products.asp?driveid=572

    Usually runs $100; on sale from time to time for 70-80$. Check amazon, bbuy, ebay, the usual suspects for the best deal.
  • Sherardp
    Sherardp Posts: 8,038
    edited August 2009
    I would recommend GTX275/285 video card or an ATI equal. That should give you what you want plus HDMI out if needed.
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  • JohnLocke88
    JohnLocke88 Posts: 1,150
    edited August 2009
    Whoops, I guess you mean "dedicated" by "external." If so, check out the 4850 from ATI, best for HT and gaming IMHO... Plus you can use the adapter to stream audio and video out on HDMI (audio will be LPCM)
  • Cpyder
    Cpyder Posts: 514
    edited August 2009
    Thanks but I'm sorry. I wasn't clear enough. I'm using a laptop. Not much room for upgrading. Also, I'm pretty sure everything is part of my motherboard. I was wondering about somthing with USB connectivity maybe?
  • Sherardp
    Sherardp Posts: 8,038
    edited August 2009
    Build HTPC and be done with it.
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  • Shicks18
    Shicks18 Posts: 397
    edited August 2009
    +1 to that. The USB slot will be way too slow to handle major graphics. They can be pretty expensive as well.

    http://optimitza.cat/news/2009/07/01/vidock-2-are-external-graphics-cards-finally-here/

    That'll run you about $400. That can go a long way in funding a new HTPC
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  • AsSiMiLaTeD
    AsSiMiLaTeD Posts: 11,728
    edited August 2009
    Did you guys even read the original thread? He doesn't need a gaming card, and he doesn't need another PC...

    Cpyder, take a look at this, this should be what you're looking for. If you have specific questions about it, contact eVGA support, they're the Polk Audio of the video card industry.

    http://www.evga.com/products/moreInfo.asp?pn=100-U2-UV16-A1&family=USB
  • Cpyder
    Cpyder Posts: 514
    edited August 2009
    Did you guys even read the original thread? He doesn't need a gaming card, and he doesn't need another PC...

    Cpyder, take a look at this, this should be what you're looking for. If you have specific questions about it, contact eVGA support, they're the Polk Audio of the video card industry.

    http://www.evga.com/products/moreInfo.asp?pn=100-U2-UV16-A1&family=USB

    Thanks! That seems to be pretty much what I'm looking for. My only concern is that if my laptop, through VGA, picture doesn't look all that great, will this change anything? I'm assuming my computer is just poor at converting the video file to analogue and interlaced to progressive, etc, etc. Will this change anything? Is the problem how I'm connecting my computer or is it the computer's conversion process?

    Thanks everyone!
  • Cpyder
    Cpyder Posts: 514
    edited August 2009
    Hopefully not, but maybe the only way to do this (keeping full quality) is to burn all my movies to DVD and use a DVD player... I hope not as I have well over 200 "discs" on my computer and that would dig a hole pretty deep shelling out for DL DVDs. :(
  • tcrossma
    tcrossma Posts: 1,301
    edited August 2009
    Cpyder wrote: »
    Hopefully not, but maybe the only way to do this (keeping full quality) is to burn all my movies to DVD and use a DVD player... I hope not as I have well over 200 "discs" on my computer and that would dig a hole pretty deep shelling out for DL DVDs. :(

    http://www.amazon.com/Memorex-240min-spindle-storage-media/dp/B000UWX70S/ref=sr_1_3?ie=UTF8&s=electronics&qid=1250005173&sr=8-3

    $160 for the discs, but then you can play them anywhere, anytime, instead of having to stream them from your laptop. And that's cheaper than a lot of graphics cards...
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  • Cpyder
    Cpyder Posts: 514
    edited August 2009
    tcrossma wrote: »
    http://www.amazon.com/Memorex-240min-spindle-storage-media/dp/B000UWX70S/ref=sr_1_3?ie=UTF8&s=electronics&qid=1250005173&sr=8-3

    $160 for the discs, but then you can play them anywhere, anytime, instead of having to stream them from your laptop. And that's cheaper than a lot of graphics cards...

    I actually never used/had a need for DLs until now. I've heard some pretty bad horror stories about Memorex's DL DVDs. What's your take on them?

    The general consensus is that Verbatim is the way to go.
  • Marty913
    Marty913 Posts: 760
    edited August 2009
    Cpyder wrote: »
    Thanks! That seems to be pretty much what I'm looking for. My only concern is that if my laptop, through VGA, picture doesn't look all that great, will this change anything? I'm assuming my computer is just poor at converting the video file to analogue and interlaced to progressive, etc, etc. Will this change anything? Is the problem how I'm connecting my computer or is it the computer's conversion process?
    Thanks everyone!

    It depends on several things but I suspect it's the VGA output and/or the internal graphics chip. The current wave of media steamers (like the WD mentioned by JohnLocke88) use a Realtek or Sigma chip versus say the Intel Graphics chip built into some laptops. That and VGA is an entirely different animal than HDMI. Specifically (to answer your question), it's probably the connection not the conversion (unless you are trying to up-convert with the laptop?).

    By the way, USB 2.0 connections handle STD DVD's fine. Blu-ray is not handled very well at all. My WD box uses an external drive as do a lot of media streamers & there are no issues with STD. I mention this only because of the USB eVGA add-on box mentioned above.


    Cpyder wrote: »
    Hopefully not, but maybe the only way to do this (keeping full quality) is to burn all my movies to DVD and use a DVD player... I hope not as I have well over 200 "discs" on my computer and that would dig a hole pretty deep shelling out for DL DVDs. :(

    There is something to be said for storing all of your movies on a hard drive, and quite frankly it probably is the wave of the future. That is the reason for the rise in popularity of media servers, NAS boxes, and HTPC's. DVD sales (retail boxes) are falling, movie downloads are rising. Having said that, I have 700 DVD's and will continue to collect them as most people still do. Still, I have a had drive loaded with favorites and it is nice to just call up a menu of movies, pick one, and hit play. My way of doing both scenarios I guess.

    As for Memorex dual-layer quality, I don't really know about the current Memorex products. Back in the early days the quality was terrible so I started using Maxell & Verbatim and have never had a problem. I did purchase a 50 pack of TDK dual-layer a few months ago and have used about 30 so far. They have all worked just fine.
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  • tcrossma
    tcrossma Posts: 1,301
    edited August 2009
    Cpyder wrote: »
    I actually never used/had a need for DLs until now. I've heard some pretty bad horror stories about Memorex's DL DVDs. What's your take on them?

    The general consensus is that Verbatim is the way to go.

    I don't know, to me a disc is a disc. With some brands you get a few more bad discs than others, but just toss 'em and move on. I'm sure as with anything, everybody has brands that have treated them well or treated them badly.

    How about this then?

    http://www.amazon.com/Verbatim-95310-Double-Layer-2-4X-6X/dp/B000T9XE46/ref=sr_1_15?ie=UTF8&qid=1250029773&sr=8-15
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  • Marty913
    Marty913 Posts: 760
    edited August 2009
    tcrossma wrote: »
    I don't know, to me a disc is a disc. With some brands you get a few more bad discs than others, but just toss 'em and move on. I'm sure as with anything, everybody has brands that have treated them well or treated them badly.

    How about this then?

    http://www.amazon.com/Verbatim-95310-Double-Layer-2-4X-6X/dp/B000T9XE46/ref=sr_1_15?ie=UTF8&qid=1250029773&sr=8-15

    Agree. I guess brand sensitivity dies hard. Back in the day (really, not that long ago) a blank DVD could cost a couple bucks and burned at 2X. I remember blank CD's at $1+ each and my first burner was a 1X. Do a little bit of that and you quickly learn that tossing them and moving on can get expensive. Times have changed a lot quality-wise and at 25 cents a disk (80 cents for dual-layer) I don't worry about it too much. Still, I don't like taking a ripped movie off the shelf and having it freeze or go unreadable halfway through a movie.
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  • kcoc321
    kcoc321 Posts: 1,788
    edited August 2009
    What kind of DVD player do you have?
    I just got the newest Cambridge Audio DVD99 and it will read and play movies from a USB drive. It also does SACD & DVD-A. Also I think the new Oppo player does as well.
    May end being alittle more than the video converter shown above
    (the CA DVD99 is $399) but you would also get an up to date DVD player as well. And if you went Oppo, then a blue ray player as well. ($499)
    worth a shot....
  • Cpyder
    Cpyder Posts: 514
    edited August 2009
    If one were to use this:
    http://gizmodo.com/5141876/grand-hd-cinema-converts-usb-to-hdmi

    (Grand HD Cinema USB to HDMI converter) Would this allow the receiver you send the signal to to convert the video into progressive?

    That would most likely do a better job than my laptop.
  • Marty913
    Marty913 Posts: 760
    edited August 2009
    Cpyder wrote: »
    If one were to use this:
    http://gizmodo.com/5141876/grand-hd-cinema-converts-usb-to-hdmi

    (Grand HD Cinema USB to HDMI converter) Would this allow the receiver you send the signal to to convert the video into progressive?

    That would most likely do a better job than my laptop.

    It appears from the description that the box converts to 720p so it will already be progressive. Whether your receiver can convert (up-convert) it higher to 1080p depends on your receiver. Most receivers I believe do not up-convert HDMI to HDMI but rather just pass it through. The Harmon Kardon 254/354 do but I believe they are the exception.
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  • greymatter
    greymatter Posts: 35
    edited August 2009
    Cpyder wrote: »
    clear.gifThats a steal! Why is that so cheap?

    indeed, get it while you can