Tube Pre's are bandaids.

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  • mhardy6647
    mhardy6647 Posts: 34,938
    edited June 2009
    Unfortunately, the only really good 6922s seem to be the expensive 6922s and their kin. I wouldn't bother with the Rooshian ones. YMMV.

    From my perspective, there isn't a worse choice for a hifi small-signal tube in this day and age :-(
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  • lightman1
    lightman1 Posts: 10,796
    edited June 2009
    shack wrote: »
    Another Dr. Phil wannabe....:rolleyes:

    I read his books and heard his tapes.

    ....snapperhead....
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  • george daniel
    george daniel Posts: 12,096
    edited June 2009
    As far a the 6922 and cousins,, I prefer a NOS Mullard,, just my .02 worth,and YMMV.
    JC approves....he told me so. (F-1 nut)
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  • heiney9
    heiney9 Posts: 25,423
    edited June 2009
    Actually the older Russian tubes are great and even the 80's tubes are pretty damn good especially for the cost.

    They aren't Mullards or Bugle Boys.............but I've found the equivalent Russian tubes in my pre-amp buffer stage to be really good. I buy them cheap from overseas.

    I use 6AQ8's (Ecc85) so they are a little less common than other variants so the cost is a bit less. The 6N1P-EV is the Russian equivalent. They have slightly higher gain which is a good thing.

    Just got 7/pr's of 6N1P-EV from the early 70's with the "OTK" stamp on them. They should sound fantastic.
    "Appreciation of audio is a completely subjective human experience. Measurements can provide a measure of insight, but are no substitute for human judgment. Why are we looking to reduce a subjective experience to objective criteria anyway? The subtleties of music and audio reproduction are for those who appreciate it. Differentiation by numbers is for those who do not".--Nelson Pass Pass Labs XA25 | EE Avant Pre | EE Mini Max Supreme DAC | MIT Shotgun S1 | Puritan Audio PSM136 Pwr Condtioner & Classic PC's | Legend L600 | Roon Nucleus 1 w/LPS - Tubes add soul!
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  • george daniel
    george daniel Posts: 12,096
    edited June 2009
    you know,, the bugle boy's just never did it for me,,I guess I just lean towards the Brit sound,, especially when Hendrix played there.;)
    JC approves....he told me so. (F-1 nut)
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  • ben62670
    ben62670 Posts: 15,969
    edited June 2009
    The Pre I am using uses 6922's I guess because it uses transformers on the outputs. Is there another tube you could recommend even if it has slightly less gain?
    Please. Please contact me a ben62670 @ yahoo.com. Make sure to include who you are, and you are from Polk so I don't delete your email. Also I am now physically unable to work on any projects. If you need help let these guys know. There are many people who will help if you let them know where you are.
    Thanks
    Ben
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  • heiney9
    heiney9 Posts: 25,423
    edited June 2009
    george daniel wrote: »
    you know,, the bugle boy's just never did it for me,,I guess I just lean towards the Brit sound,, especially when Hendrix played there.;)

    I like the German tubes too. I have a pair of Siemens Falcon logo as well as a pair of RFT's from the 70's and they have a very lush midrange and huge soundstage. I have yet to listen to a pair of 60's RCA's I bought that were manufactured at the Blackburn plant where Mullards were manufactured. Supposedly the same tube based on the markings.

    Trying to get a pair of Telefunken's at a decent price but I was outbid on fleabay.
    "Appreciation of audio is a completely subjective human experience. Measurements can provide a measure of insight, but are no substitute for human judgment. Why are we looking to reduce a subjective experience to objective criteria anyway? The subtleties of music and audio reproduction are for those who appreciate it. Differentiation by numbers is for those who do not".--Nelson Pass Pass Labs XA25 | EE Avant Pre | EE Mini Max Supreme DAC | MIT Shotgun S1 | Puritan Audio PSM136 Pwr Condtioner & Classic PC's | Legend L600 | Roon Nucleus 1 w/LPS - Tubes add soul!
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  • Face
    Face Posts: 14,340
    edited June 2009
    ben62670 wrote: »
    the pre i am using uses 6922's i guess because it uses transformers on the outputs. Is there another tube you could recommend even if it has slightly less gain?

    5965/12av7
    "He who fights with monsters should look to it that he himself does not become a monster. And when you gaze long into an abyss the abyss also gazes into you." Friedrich Nietzsche
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  • ben62670
    ben62670 Posts: 15,969
    edited June 2009
    Thanks much Face.
    Please. Please contact me a ben62670 @ yahoo.com. Make sure to include who you are, and you are from Polk so I don't delete your email. Also I am now physically unable to work on any projects. If you need help let these guys know. There are many people who will help if you let them know where you are.
    Thanks
    Ben
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  • george daniel
    george daniel Posts: 12,096
    edited June 2009
    If you can,, check with the manuf.and see if 6CG7's can be used in place,,same pinout,different plate voltage,,but in some cases they can be subbed,, much lower gain as well. Good luck.
    JC approves....he told me so. (F-1 nut)
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  • nikolas812
    nikolas812 Posts: 2,915
    edited June 2009
    I hated the EH 6922's I had.

    In fact. I;ve hated every EH tube I have ever tried.








    Nick
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  • hearingimpared
    hearingimpared Posts: 21,136
    edited June 2009
    nikolas812 wrote: »
    I hated the EH 6922's I had.

    In fact. I;ve hated every EH tube I have ever tried.








    Nick

    I'm not a big fan of EH tubes either although the EH Gold aren't too bad.
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  • rubin
    rubin Posts: 565
    edited June 2009
    george daniel wrote: »
    As far a the 6922 and cousins,, I prefer a NOS Mullard,, just my .02 worth,and YMMV.

    The best preamp tube combination for me so far is the GE 5751 and the MULLARD 4024.
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  • rubin
    rubin Posts: 565
    edited June 2009
    My many years with audio gear has been with mid/fi ss stuff.Other priorities would not let me go the top grade audiophile route.I bought a tube pre and a tube buffer a few years ago just to satisfy my curoiusity. Now after using them, yea I do like tubes in the chain. They are $$$$$ but I"m glad I took the plunge. All the best to you Ben.
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