Any experience with Adcom GFA-585?

nduitch
nduitch Posts: 316
edited June 2009 in Electronics
This thing is on ebay, being sold as is which scares me, but I called the seller and they are a consignment shop and said that they dont have any way to test the gear but said that the guy who brought it in said it was working. 250wpc into 8 ohm and 400 into 4ohm. So it would be a nice upgrade from my carver receiver at 150wpc. What do these amps usually go for? Anyone ever own one, if so how are they?
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  • ben62670
    ben62670 Posts: 15,969
    edited June 2009
    They are awesome bad **** amps for sure if they do not have any problems with DC offset. I just sold mine, and I hated selling it:( If it is not local, or cheap stay away. I can fix them for Polkies cheap, but the shipping is the problem. They are heavy.
    Ben
    Please. Please contact me a ben62670 @ yahoo.com. Make sure to include who you are, and you are from Polk so I don't delete your email. Also I am now physically unable to work on any projects. If you need help let these guys know. There are many people who will help if you let them know where you are.
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  • RandyWilliamson
    RandyWilliamson Posts: 178
    edited June 2009
    hard to find...i gave up looking for them..but "as is" is usually a warning sign....ask them to honor a DOA gaurantee......
    Cool stuff: Adcom GFA-555, GFP-710, Oppo BDP-83, Monitor 10's w/RDO198s, rebuilt and modded XO: Sonicap/Mundorf topside, Daytons Low.
    Benq W5000

    "Leaning back like a maxwell tape commercial listening to pure polk bliss"
  • ben62670
    ben62670 Posts: 15,969
    edited June 2009
    hard to find...i gave up looking for them..but "as is" is usually a warning sign....ask them to honor a DOA gaurantee......

    Amen. Add $400 to the price if you don't know who you are dealing with. I have repaired many Adcom GFA-565's, and 585's for polkies and others.
    Please. Please contact me a ben62670 @ yahoo.com. Make sure to include who you are, and you are from Polk so I don't delete your email. Also I am now physically unable to work on any projects. If you need help let these guys know. There are many people who will help if you let them know where you are.
    Thanks
    Ben
  • nduitch
    nduitch Posts: 316
    edited June 2009
    It is in lancaster PA, about 6 hours each way. I wonder what it will go for?
  • nduitch
    nduitch Posts: 316
    edited June 2009
    ben62670 wrote: »
    Amen. Add $400 to the price if you don't know who you are dealing with. I have repaired many Adcom GFA-565's, and 585's for polkies and others.



    You mean 400$ for the repair?
  • ben62670
    ben62670 Posts: 15,969
    edited June 2009
    Email me with your number
    Please. Please contact me a ben62670 @ yahoo.com. Make sure to include who you are, and you are from Polk so I don't delete your email. Also I am now physically unable to work on any projects. If you need help let these guys know. There are many people who will help if you let them know where you are.
    Thanks
    Ben
  • nduitch
    nduitch Posts: 316
    edited June 2009
    here is what the seller said:

    Dear nduitch,

    Unfortunately we do not have any speakers to test this. Therefore, we are selling it "as is" with no guarantee regarding functionality (non-returnable). I was able to find out the following information from the owner: There is a little noise in the left channel at start up that goes away. Other than that he claims that it works great. Thank you for your interest and best regards,

    Auction Inn Customer Service



    Anyone have any idea whata this problem could be and how easy it would be to fix?
  • lakesailor
    lakesailor Posts: 319
    edited June 2009
    The 585 was probably the only Adcom product I ever had any problems with. Unfortunately I didn't get to spend enough time with it "working" to form much of a conclusion about it. I ended up trading it off "as is" at a dealer towards an Aragon at the time.
  • RandyWilliamson
    RandyWilliamson Posts: 178
    edited June 2009
    They got a sub and a pair of Bose speakers for sale......
    Cool stuff: Adcom GFA-555, GFP-710, Oppo BDP-83, Monitor 10's w/RDO198s, rebuilt and modded XO: Sonicap/Mundorf topside, Daytons Low.
    Benq W5000

    "Leaning back like a maxwell tape commercial listening to pure polk bliss"
  • leroyjr1
    leroyjr1 Posts: 8,785
    edited June 2009
    I try to stay away from "AS IS " deals.
  • heiney9
    heiney9 Posts: 25,497
    edited June 2009
    Adcom had a bad run of caps from the manufacturer. Those ended up in some of the GFA 585 and GFA 565 amps and are prone to premature failure. They leak the corrosive electroytics all over the input boards and end up causing all kinds of issues including DC offset and full failure which can damage other parts.

    The boards can be cleaned and parts replaced but it's a very painstaking labor intensive process that someone needs to know how to do properly (Ben does). Once the boards are cleaned and repopulated you're good to go for 20 more years. Also note new boards are no longer avail from Adcom

    Note: not all units were affected......there's really no way to tell and obviously a unit that has had the procedure done either as a preventative measure or as a repair is the unit to look for. My brother has a 585 and has had no issues with it...........usually by now if the unit has the defective caps they rear their ugly head.

    Hope this helps

    H9

    P.s. It's an incredible amp. Built by Victor Campos and Walt Yung it was the pinnacle of Adcom design for the time.
    "Appreciation of audio is a completely subjective human experience. Measurements can provide a measure of insight, but are no substitute for human judgment. Why are we looking to reduce a subjective experience to objective criteria anyway? The subtleties of music and audio reproduction are for those who appreciate it. Differentiation by numbers is for those who do not".--Nelson Pass Pass Labs XA25 | EE Avant Pre | EE Mini Max Supreme DAC | MIT Shotgun S1 | Puritan Audio PSM136 Pwr Condtioner & Classic PC's | Legend L600 | Roon Nucleus 1 w/LPS - Tubes add soul!