Jamie Oliver's food revolution....

Systems
Systems Posts: 14,873
edited March 2010 in The Clubhouse
Anybody see this last night? Pretty saddening to watch....
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  • hearingimpared
    hearingimpared Posts: 21,137
    edited March 2010
    Nope! Any links to some clips or published info?
  • ohskigod
    ohskigod Posts: 6,502
    edited March 2010
    didnt see it but saw the trailers. like any show it's probably embelished for effect, but alot of people have horrible diets. I was one.

    heck, my diet still isnt perfect, but I am ALOT more wary of what I put in my body then before since my hospital stint.
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  • Systems
    Systems Posts: 14,873
    edited March 2010
    ohskigod wrote: »
    didnt see it but saw the trailers. like any show it's probably embelished for effect, but alot of people have horrible diets. I was one.

    heck, my diet still isnt perfect, but I am ALOT more wary of what I put in my body then before since my hospital stint.

    Oh yeah I'm sure it was "embelished" at times.....My wife works for our school district and she found it to be pretty much spot on....
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  • bobman1235
    bobman1235 Posts: 10,822
    edited March 2010
    I have it on the DVR, I"m looking forward to it. I like Jaime Oliver and am always looking for inspiration as far as eating healthy goes :)
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  • Jstas
    Jstas Posts: 14,807
    edited March 2010
    I'm all for it and I support him 100%. Even when I was in school, I never ate in the cafeteria because the food was such crap. Flavorless and mundane as well. I'd like to see change similar to what he did in the U.K. Read up on his efforts there. The guy really did change a nation and they are seeing more benefits from it then they thought they would. They have also noticed a steadily decreasing trend in medical costs as a whole, not just in kids.
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  • phuz
    phuz Posts: 2,372
    edited March 2010
    I ordered pizza while I was watching it.
  • tonyb
    tonyb Posts: 32,952
    edited March 2010
    I sucked down a double slice of cheesecake followed by a big bowl of ice cream.

    It's all well and good to promote healthy eating,but lets face it,school budgets won't allow for alot of fresh,or organic choices and the bottom line is that healthy eating starts at home with the parents.
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  • bobman1235
    bobman1235 Posts: 10,822
    edited March 2010
    I never understood why people are so angry about these types of shows. "Screw that guy for trying to help kids be more healthy! Where does he get off!! I'm going to go eat a pizza! That'll show him!"

    Healthy eating starts at home, but kids still go to school every day and it would be nice if schools made an effort to feed the kids healthy. No one's forcing you to eat well.
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  • janmike
    janmike Posts: 6,146
    edited March 2010
    Sad what some adults think is good to shove down a kids throat ALL THE TIME. This show really does demonstrate (apart from some level of embellishment) how stupid and ignorant some people truly are. Open your eyes people.
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  • Jstas
    Jstas Posts: 14,807
    edited March 2010
    Eating healthy does not necessarily mean "fresh or organic".
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  • tonyb
    tonyb Posts: 32,952
    edited March 2010
    Jstas wrote: »
    Eating healthy does not necessarily mean "fresh or organic".

    This is true. However,working on a schools budget has many challenges to offer variety and healthy. Keep in mind also alot of schools get subsidized for those who can't afford it too and that money is not alot. The actual change most look for is not from the parents but from the schools setting priorities. A few less administrative bodies could go along way into providing healthier choices at lunchtime. Good luck though getting a school district to correctly set priorities.
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  • danger boy
    danger boy Posts: 15,722
    edited March 2010
    I watched the show... i was surprised to find that kids today eat such processed foods. Pizza for breakfast, pizza for lunch, then they go home and guess what kids? We're having pizza for dinner. Frickin' amazing.

    Kids get accustomed to eating that way.. then when you try to introduce something more health and better for them.. the scoff at it. They want pizza a chicken nuggets.

    I loved the part of the show last night where Jamie cut up a whole chicken, then ground up the bones and cartilidge and put it in a food processor and formed it into chicken nuggets, fried them, and the kids wanted to eat them. Blech! that was so gross-a-rama. BUt the kids ate them and LOVED them.. they were shaped to look like chick nuggets.. so they are em up.

    I hope it's not embellished at all.. lets show the world how unhealthy we are feeding our school kids.

    Funny part was when Jamie could not believe that grade school kids were not allowed to have forks and knives for lunch.. only spoons. I LOL on that one.
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  • tonyb
    tonyb Posts: 32,952
    edited March 2010
    I tend to look at the past, when most grew up on a farm. They ate whole natural foods,but also laddened with tons of calories and fat. Difference is they worked harder to burn it off. Todays kids can't have recess anymore and go home and plop their butt down infront of the TV or computer. Now,I know the average life span was shorter way back when but advances in medical care contributed more to our presesnt longevity than eating habits. I don't think eating habits would be as much of an issue if kids would exercise more. Hell,even gym class is being put on the back burner in some schools. Priorities have always been teachers unions first,at least here in Illinois it is. What the kids need, well, somewhere down the list they'll adress that. The problem goes way deeper than just eating healthy. Every year in my state,we are asked to throw more money at schools,ala taxes, and always find that the majority of the money gets eaten up in teachers contracts and administrative costs with little filtering down to the kids. No music classes,no gym,no recess, talks of 4 day school weeks,class size approaching 50 per in some districts in my state,sound like we are moving in the right direction? Hell no,but I will say given the current climate of financial woes, adding more costs to the lunch menu in the name of eating healthy is off the radar in most districts. Here's an answer,and it worked for me growing up. If you don't like what the school is feeding your kid,pack his/her's lunch yourself and fill it with all the healthy stuff you can imagine. It comes down to the parents taking an interest in what goes in their kids mouth and keeping them active after school.
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  • danger boy
    danger boy Posts: 15,722
    edited March 2010
    I don't think the budget for most school districts would increase that much if they just revamped a 30 yr old menu. For pete's sake... when I was in grade school 30 years ago.. we didn't have the crap they have now. they are catering to what the kids will eat and it frozen, processed food.

    When I was in junior high we would rotate washing dishes in the cafeteria for a week at a time. I saw how the food back then was prepared. We got things like fresh fruit, or canned peaches or pears. Schools back then were making better food choices for kids than they are now, plain and simple.

    Each school should hire a nutritionist for today's way the kids live and learn.

    Is it that costly to put apples, oranges, carrots, grapes, bananas on the lunch menu? I know there are funds available for lunch programs in schools.. but I get the feeling no one wants to tackle such a revamping as this.

    In the show with Jamie, the cooks kept telling him he had to have something like 3 breads per meal. WTH? 3 seriously??? so the kids get pizza as one, mashed potatoes as a starch, then rolls or muffins.. and very little uncooked veggies. Does not make sense to me.
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  • janmike
    janmike Posts: 6,146
    edited March 2010
    And I wonder if they are just thinking, "I'll do what I am told so I can get paid at the end of the week." And what state was this? :confused:
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  • bobman1235
    bobman1235 Posts: 10,822
    edited March 2010
    danger boy wrote: »
    Is it that costly to put apples, oranges, carrots, grapes, bananas on the lunch menu? I know there are funds available for lunch programs in schools.. but I get the feeling no one wants to tackle such a revamping as this.

    The only reason it's costly is because that stuff will be thrown away. Given the OPTION, no kids are going to eat healthy vegetables when there's pizza staring them in the face.


    tonyb wrote:
    Hell no,but I will say given the current climate of financial woes, adding more costs to the lunch menu in the name of eating healthy is off the radar in most districts.

    No doubt you're right, Tony, and that's the whole point of Oliver's show -- putting it back ON the radar. There's no point in spending all this money and effort educating your kids on reading and writing if you're just putting them in the ground 30 years earlier than you should because they're morbidly obese and dead from diabetes. I would like to think that educating people on how to be healthy should be a higher priority than pretty much anything else, and that starts with not feeding them pizza for breakfast.
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  • lightman1
    lightman1 Posts: 10,788
    edited March 2010
    I ran over a possum then ate it. It was greasy.
  • Systems
    Systems Posts: 14,873
    edited March 2010
    janmike wrote: »
    And I wonder if they are just thinking, "I'll do what I am told so I can get paid at the end of the week." And what state was this? :confused:

    It was Huntington West Virginia

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  • John30_30
    John30_30 Posts: 1,024
    edited March 2010
    tonyb wrote: »
    I sucked down a double slice of cheesecake followed by a big bowl of ice cream.

    It's all well and good to promote healthy eating,but lets face it,school budgets won't allow for alot of fresh,or organic choices and the bottom line is that healthy eating starts at home with the parents.

    No, the bottom line is too many parents shouldn't be allowed have kids. Some of them don't get decent meals at all. Or clothes. Or a home life.

    But agreed about the school budgets. Public schools are the redheaded stepchild in this state.
  • danger boy
    danger boy Posts: 15,722
    edited March 2010
    bobman1235 wrote: »
    The only reason it's costly is because that stuff will be thrown away. Given the OPTION, no kids are going to eat healthy vegetables when there's pizza staring them in the face.

    I agree bobman, solution.. get rid of the pizza. Don't put it on the menu at all. Where in our DNA make up did we acquire a pizza gene?

    the problem isn't impossible to overcome. you can teach and dog to roll over right? you can teach your kids to eat healthier. Again, no one wants to tackle this problem, instead turning the other way.. and kids, the next generation are fat, lazy, unmotivated, computer loving, none sociable slobs.

    Seriously, why not give a kid a half of banana with peanut butter instead of a cookie or brownie, cupcake? is it really that much more expensive?

    kids and parents and the school system need a wake up call. and this is it.

    kudos to Jamie Oliver for trying to change something for the better.
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  • Norm Apter
    Norm Apter Posts: 1,036
    edited March 2010
    I'll have to check this out. Though Supersize Me was primarily about the risks associated with eating fast food on a regular basis, there was a quite a lengthy segment in there about school cafeterias and the choices on the school menu. Its been a couple of years since I've seen it, but if I recall correctly Morgan Spurlock made mention of how it really wouldn't be more expenseive to make positive changes in school menus.

    Does Jamie Oliver dig into the behavior of the suppliers of school meals at all? In Supersize Me, at least, most of the food seem to be delivered to the school completely frozen, pretty much ready to go with the zap of the microwave or after being plumped down in the deep frier. If this still exists, it seems like real change would have to come from both pressure from school boards as well as parents.

    Well, I won't say anything else until I watch the documentary. I just wanted to note that this was also discussed to some extent in Supersize Me
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    Jetmaker737 Posts: 1,045
    edited March 2010
    If you want a better understanding of what's driving a lot of this whole issue of food, nutrition, obesity, diabetes, etc read "In defense of Food" and "Omnivore's Dilemma" by Michael Pollan.
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    madmax Posts: 12,434
    edited March 2010
    Mmmmmm, pizza.
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  • Music Joe
    Music Joe Posts: 459
    edited March 2010
    Decent show... Jamie Oliver exudes a caring persona.

    Sad to see a new, [?]million[?] dollar commercial kitchen with all the bells and whistles being used to reheat fast food... chicken nuggets, pizza, hot dogs and boil water for instant potato buds... and thaw single serving prepackaged food.

    Very sad... all the wasted food after kids cherry picked two daily state supplied meals.

    My heart went out to the obese family that had the fry-daddy funeral.

    Oprah guested J.Oliver with some extra bits of the show... 'Jamie and the Radio show Host go to a funeral home to discuss the complications and high costs of burying or cremating very heavy folks. Funeral guy adds that the big-ones go up like candles.
    Seeing the double wide casket in the funeral home kind of shocked and softened the radio show host.

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