LSi9's - I Stand Corrected

DForeman
DForeman Posts: 468
edited February 2010 in Speakers
I am on record here somewhere along the line claiming the LSi9's were not very good for hard rock. I recently replaced the stock jumpers on all my speakers and there was a tremendous improvement. This was not a subtle improvement but a dramtic one. Drums are punchy now, guitars were grating on my ears before at times but are a lot less fatiguing now. I guess I could sum up by saying the edginess I heard before (with this type of music, played at higher volumes) has been tamed.

I certainly didn't expect this much of an improvement but my ears are loving it.
Parasound P5 Pre
Marantz AV 7703 Pre/Pro
Outlaw 7500 Amp
Marantz SA14s1 SACD/CD
Rega Planar 2 TT
Polk Audio Speakers: LSiM 705 Fronts, LC65FX Surround, LSiM 704c
Oppo BDP-103
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  • keeneyrm01
    keeneyrm01 Posts: 80
    edited January 2010
    What did you use to replace the stock jumpers with?
    HT basement room:
    TV- 42in Panasonic S1 Plasma
    A/V Receiver- Onkyo NR807
    Blu-Ray- 80GB Sony PS3
    Power Supply- Monster HTS-1600
    5 Disc Sony CD/DVD Changer
    Time Warner HD Cable Box
    Speakers:
    Front- Polk RTi A3
    Center- Polk CSi3
    Side Surround- Polk RTi4
    Back Surround- Polk RM6750
    Sub- Outlaw Audio LFM-1 EX
    Bedroom:
    32in Visio LCD, Sony STR-DE685 AVR, MTX Monitor 12, Sony 5 disc DVD changer
  • DForeman
    DForeman Posts: 468
    edited January 2010
    keeneyrm01 wrote: »
    What did you use to replace the stock jumpers with?

    I used Signal jumpers, to go along with my Signal speaker cables. Jumpers are not shown anywhere on Signal's website, but they do make them.
    Parasound P5 Pre
    Marantz AV 7703 Pre/Pro
    Outlaw 7500 Amp
    Marantz SA14s1 SACD/CD
    Rega Planar 2 TT
    Polk Audio Speakers: LSiM 705 Fronts, LC65FX Surround, LSiM 704c
    Oppo BDP-103
  • bluecomet
    bluecomet Posts: 1,118
    edited January 2010
    Were they expensive? It might be a worthwhile upgrade.
    Polk HT system 1: LSIC, LSI25 mains, LSI F/X rears, Lsi F/X rear centers,
    Yamaha RX-V2500 System, Carver A753 3 channel amp.

    Polk HT system 2: , SRT system with f/x 1,000's rear speakers on 7.1 system currently using Onkyo TX-RZ820 receiver, powered by Sunfire Grand Theater amp

    Polk Speaker collection: SDA SRS 1.2tl x 2, SRT system, SDA SRS 2 P/B, SDA 2A, SDA 1C Studio, SDA CRS+, Monitor 7B & 4, SRS 3.1tl, RTA 15tl, LS90, LSI 9
  • DForeman
    DForeman Posts: 468
    edited January 2010
    bluecomet wrote: »
    Were they expensive? It might be a worthwhile upgrade.

    $19.50 per speaker.
    Parasound P5 Pre
    Marantz AV 7703 Pre/Pro
    Outlaw 7500 Amp
    Marantz SA14s1 SACD/CD
    Rega Planar 2 TT
    Polk Audio Speakers: LSiM 705 Fronts, LC65FX Surround, LSiM 704c
    Oppo BDP-103
  • Face
    Face Posts: 14,340
    edited January 2010
    Audioholics is a haven for luddites.
    "He who fights with monsters should look to it that he himself does not become a monster. And when you gaze long into an abyss the abyss also gazes into you." Friedrich Nietzsche
  • concealer404
    concealer404 Posts: 7,440
    edited January 2010
    I don't read the newsssspaperssss because dey aaaallllllllll...... have ugly print.

    Living Room: B&K Reference 5 S2 / Parasound HCA-1000A / Emotiva XDA-2 / Pioneer BDP-51FD / Paradigm 11se MKiii

    Desk: Schiit Magni 2 Uber / Schiit Modi 2 Uber / ISK HD9999

    Office: Schiit Magni 2 Uber / Schiit Modi 2 Uber / Dynaco SCA-80Q / Paradigm Legend V.3

    HT: Denon AVR-X3400H / Sony UBP-X700 / RT16 / CS350LS / RT7 / SVS PB1000
  • mightymouse
    mightymouse Posts: 254
    edited January 2010
    Cheese..., got a fungal infection down there?
    Audioholics can lick my sack cheese.
  • jmwest1970
    jmwest1970 Posts: 846
    edited January 2010
    If you think upgrading the jumpers makes a difference, go bi-wire. When I did that my Rainmakers really came alive.
  • kevon27
    kevon27 Posts: 18
    edited February 2010
    Ha, ha.. Audioholics makes you guys look like fools
    Cable lifts, cables with batteries attached, etc, etc..
    It's true with this saying .... "A fool and his money are soon parted."

    Top Ten Signs an Audio Cable Vendor is Selling You Snake Oil
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    by Gene DellaSala — last modified March 14, 2007

    Watch out if a Cable Vendor or Manufacturer:

    1. Promotes that their product allegedly eliminates audio related Skin Effect and/or "Strand Jumping" problems.
    2. Claims revolutionary breakthrough in cable technology by polarizing or biasing the dielectric using a battery.
    3. Promotes that their products eliminate "Audiogenic", "Diode Rectification" or any type of non linear distortions. See Debunking the Myth of Cable Distortion and Dielectric Biasing
    4. Physically places (+) and (-) wire leads in separate dielectrics not closely spaced in a common jacket. See: Calculating Cable Inductance of Twin Feeder Cables
    5. Claims vast improvements in sound by inserting "Cable Elevators" to raise the cables off the floor and minimize electron misfiring or static energy fields.
    6. Claims that cryogenically freezing cables improves fidelity or measurably changes electrical properties after the cable is restored to room temperature.
    7. Claims that their cables require a "Break In" period.
    8. Claims that measurements cannot quantify why their designs are superior and often misapply engineering principles in their reasoning but abandon the associated governing laws and metrics that establish them.
    9. Claims audible differences exist between stranded and non-stranded wires of same gauge rating, geometry and conductor spacing.
    10. Claims audible differences between silver and copper cables of equal design geometry and gauge.

    Bonus Scams

    * Sells speaker cables or interconnects costing more than a plasma TV or a lease on a new Infinity G35 sports coupe.
    * Claims wire is directional.
    * Slaps RLC boxes on their cables.
    * Claims of Speaker Cable Resonance at Audio Frequencies

    image_preview
  • concealer404
    concealer404 Posts: 7,440
    edited February 2010
    kevon27 wrote: »
    Ha, ha.. Audioholics makes you guys look like fools
    Cable lifts, cables with batteries attached, etc, etc..
    It's true with this saying .... "A fool and his money are soon parted."

    Top Ten Signs an Audio Cable Vendor is Selling You Snake Oil
    Post to del.icio.us
    SlashdotSlashdot It!
    by Gene DellaSala — last modified March 14, 2007

    Watch out if a Cable Vendor or Manufacturer:

    1. Promotes that their product allegedly eliminates audio related Skin Effect and/or "Strand Jumping" problems.
    2. Claims revolutionary breakthrough in cable technology by polarizing or biasing the dielectric using a battery.
    3. Promotes that their products eliminate "Audiogenic", "Diode Rectification" or any type of non linear distortions. See Debunking the Myth of Cable Distortion and Dielectric Biasing
    4. Physically places (+) and (-) wire leads in separate dielectrics not closely spaced in a common jacket. See: Calculating Cable Inductance of Twin Feeder Cables
    5. Claims vast improvements in sound by inserting "Cable Elevators" to raise the cables off the floor and minimize electron misfiring or static energy fields.
    6. Claims that cryogenically freezing cables improves fidelity or measurably changes electrical properties after the cable is restored to room temperature.
    7. Claims that their cables require a "Break In" period.
    8. Claims that measurements cannot quantify why their designs are superior and often misapply engineering principles in their reasoning but abandon the associated governing laws and metrics that establish them.
    9. Claims audible differences exist between stranded and non-stranded wires of same gauge rating, geometry and conductor spacing.
    10. Claims audible differences between silver and copper cables of equal design geometry and gauge.

    Bonus Scams

    * Sells speaker cables or interconnects costing more than a plasma TV or a lease on a new Infinity G35 sports coupe.
    * Claims wire is directional.
    * Slaps RLC boxes on their cables.
    * Claims of Speaker Cable Resonance at Audio Frequencies

    image_preview


    So you think that the OP isn't hearing a difference, and you're going to use an Audioholics link (cue laughter here) to prove that?

    Please see post #9 in this thread. Thanks! Have a great day!
    I don't read the newsssspaperssss because dey aaaallllllllll...... have ugly print.

    Living Room: B&K Reference 5 S2 / Parasound HCA-1000A / Emotiva XDA-2 / Pioneer BDP-51FD / Paradigm 11se MKiii

    Desk: Schiit Magni 2 Uber / Schiit Modi 2 Uber / ISK HD9999

    Office: Schiit Magni 2 Uber / Schiit Modi 2 Uber / Dynaco SCA-80Q / Paradigm Legend V.3

    HT: Denon AVR-X3400H / Sony UBP-X700 / RT16 / CS350LS / RT7 / SVS PB1000
  • cstmar01
    cstmar01 Posts: 4,424
    edited February 2010
    To the OP thanks for the info, I didn't know they made those either and might have to look into getting some.
    To the guy who says that cables dont' make a difference, stop trying to make trouble. Go and use your rat shack stuff, I'll stick to my Signal Cables and MIT.
  • hearingimpared
    hearingimpared Posts: 21,136
    edited February 2010
    kevon27 wrote: »
    Ha, ha.. Audioholics makes you guys look like fools
    Cable lifts, cables with batteries attached, etc, etc..
    It's true with this saying .... "A fool and his money are soon parted."

    Top Ten Signs an Audio Cable Vendor is Selling You Snake Oil
    Post to del.icio.us
    SlashdotSlashdot It!
    by Gene DellaSala — last modified March 14, 2007

    Watch out if a Cable Vendor or Manufacturer:

    1. Promotes that their product allegedly eliminates audio related Skin Effect and/or "Strand Jumping" problems.
    2. Claims revolutionary breakthrough in cable technology by polarizing or biasing the dielectric using a battery.
    3. Promotes that their products eliminate "Audiogenic", "Diode Rectification" or any type of non linear distortions. See Debunking the Myth of Cable Distortion and Dielectric Biasing
    4. Physically places (+) and (-) wire leads in separate dielectrics not closely spaced in a common jacket. See: Calculating Cable Inductance of Twin Feeder Cables
    5. Claims vast improvements in sound by inserting "Cable Elevators" to raise the cables off the floor and minimize electron misfiring or static energy fields.
    6. Claims that cryogenically freezing cables improves fidelity or measurably changes electrical properties after the cable is restored to room temperature.
    7. Claims that their cables require a "Break In" period.
    8. Claims that measurements cannot quantify why their designs are superior and often misapply engineering principles in their reasoning but abandon the associated governing laws and metrics that establish them.
    9. Claims audible differences exist between stranded and non-stranded wires of same gauge rating, geometry and conductor spacing.
    10. Claims audible differences between silver and copper cables of equal design geometry and gauge.

    Bonus Scams

    * Sells speaker cables or interconnects costing more than a plasma TV or a lease on a new Infinity G35 sports coupe.
    * Claims wire is directional.
    * Slaps RLC boxes on their cables.
    * Claims of Speaker Cable Resonance at Audio Frequencies

    image_preview

    The gospel according to Audiofoolics.:rolleyes: With ten post on this forum you sure know how to make friends and influence.:eek:

    BTW Welcome to Club Polk, I think.:cool:
  • pearsall001
    pearsall001 Posts: 5,094
    edited February 2010
    Hey!! Go easy...I'm a seasoned member over there. ;)
    "2 Channel & 11.2 HT "Two Channel:Magnepan LRSSchiit Audio Freya S - SS preConsonance Ref 50 - Tube preParasound HALO A21+ 2 channel ampBluesound NODE 2i streameriFi NEO iDSD DAC Oppo BDP-93KEF KC62 sub Home Theater:Full blown 11.2 set up.