What's up with the LSi series?

pearsall001
pearsall001 Posts: 5,094
edited March 2010 in Speakers
I've been on different sites, including here & everywhere I look the LSi series are all on backorder. The LSiFX seems to be available though. Is there something going on or are they simply having delays on deliveries? Or maybe Polk is phasing them out to make room for a new version? Anybody in the know!
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  • wetcoast
    wetcoast Posts: 64
    edited December 2009
    I've had a set of LSi25's and an LSiC on order since September 12th and haven't even had a sniff so far. I ordered a set of LSiFX's on October 31st and had them two weeks later. I'm starting to get PO'd now.
    Speakers: Polk LSi 25, LSiC, LSiFX
    Sub: Maelstrom X 18" DIY
    Amps: Sunfire Sig Seven, Behringer EP-4000
    Processor: Integra DHC-80.1
    Monitor: Sharp LC 60E77UN
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  • DAlba
    DAlba Posts: 124
    edited December 2009
    I'm really hoping this means we will see some new models at CES? I am ready to upgrade!
  • dfledezma
    dfledezma Posts: 148
    edited December 2009
    How long have the LSi series been in the market?
  • phuz
    phuz Posts: 2,372
    edited December 2009
    dfledezma wrote: »
    How long have the LSi series been in the market?

    8 or 9 years.

    I'd say new stuff is due. Looking forward to it. :)
  • danz1906
    danz1906 Posts: 5,144
    edited December 2009
    Could it be a new LSi-A series:)
    Linn AV5140 fronts
    Linn AV5120 Center
    Linn AV5140 Rears
    M&K MX-70 Sub for Music
    Odyssey Mono-Blocs
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  • leroyjr1
    leroyjr1 Posts: 8,785
    edited December 2009
    It'll be another 9 years
  • dorokusai
    dorokusai Posts: 25,577
    edited December 2009
    Nope.
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  • pearsall001
    pearsall001 Posts: 5,094
    edited December 2009
    dorokusai wrote: »
    Nope.

    Your lack of wordage leads me to believe that something is afoot with the LSi series. Yea or nah & how long a wait.
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  • 1fastz28
    1fastz28 Posts: 122
    edited December 2009
    i heard from our polk rep that something new was in the works, but that was 2 years ago
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  • VSchneider
    VSchneider Posts: 443
    edited December 2009
    1fastz28 wrote: »
    i heard from our polk rep that something new was in the works, but that was 2 years ago
    I think we saw this "something new" at the headquarters during the Polk Fest tour last year, but who knows if that was just a design exercise or a production ready product.
    dfledezma wrote: »
    How long have the LSi series been in the market?

    Since winter 2001/2002? Technically, LSi has had some evolution of the series (at least 3 different cabinet finishes?), but if I understand correctly without any modification to the internals.
  • Ricardo
    Ricardo Posts: 10,636
    edited December 2009
    I guess they made the LSi's too damn good and are having a hard time to make them better.
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  • Face
    Face Posts: 14,340
    edited December 2009
    Ricardo wrote: »
    I guess they made the LSi's too damn good and are having a hard time to make them better.
    In that case, they should hire me.
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  • VSchneider
    VSchneider Posts: 443
    edited December 2009
    LOL
    Can they afford you?

    Rather... could we afford to buy the "LSi-F" (F for "Face", of course) once you are done with them?
  • megasat16
    megasat16 Posts: 3,521
    edited December 2009
    Face wrote: »
    In that case, they should hire me.

    I see the problem there! I think the smart guys don't hire someone smarter than them. :D lol
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  • Face
    Face Posts: 14,340
    edited December 2009
    Sure, I'll hook them up. ;)

    Ricardo does have a good point. The LSi's, for their price, are excellent sounding speakers. A total revamp is not really needed, but some tweaking is. Maybe a LSiA series is in order.

    As far as drivers go, the woofer could really be improved. Vifa's ring radiator is a great tweeter, but the non-radiator version has greater dispersion and may be a better choice. In fact, ScanSpeak has a nice dome tweeter that is 8ohms and is better all around, but at more than twice the price.

    My biggest gripe is the crossover components used. The tweeter caps should be at least Bennics. The cap in series with the mid should be a film cap, not electrolytic. It also wouldn't hurt if the coil in the MP was an air core too. After that, I can understand the use of cored inductors and electrolytic capacitors due to space constraints and substantial added costs involved, even some $10K+ speakers use electrolytics and cored inductors.
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  • megasat16
    megasat16 Posts: 3,521
    edited December 2009
    Face wrote: »

    My biggest gripe is the crossover components used. The tweeter caps should be at least Bennics. The cap in series with the mid should be a film cap, not electrolytic. It also wouldn't hurt if the coil in the MP was an air core too. After that, I can understand the use of cored inductors and electrolytic capacitors due to space constraints and substantial added costs involved, even some $10K+ speakers use electrolytics and cored inductors.

    Shoot! You just made me puke on my LSi9s. :eek:
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  • dorokusai
    dorokusai Posts: 25,577
    edited December 2009
    Face wrote: »
    As far as drivers go, the woofer could really be improved. Vifa's ring radiator is a great tweeter, but the non-radiator version has greater dispersion and may be a better choice. In fact, ScanSpeak has a nice dome tweeter that is 8ohms and is better all around, but at more than twice the price.

    My biggest gripe is the crossover components used. The tweeter caps should be at least Bennics. The cap in series with the mid should be a film cap, not electrolytic. It also wouldn't hurt if the coil in the MP was an air core too. After that, I can understand the use of cored inductors and electrolytic capacitors due to space constraints and substantial added costs involved, even some $10K+ speakers use electrolytics and cored inductors.

    Everyone's a toilet engineer these days.
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  • Face
    Face Posts: 14,340
    edited December 2009
    dorokusai wrote: »
    Everyone's a toilet engineer these days.
    Didn't you also upgrade a pair?
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  • Bernal
    Bernal Posts: 991
    edited January 2010
    Where to find more information?
  • cnh
    cnh Posts: 13,284
    edited January 2010
    The LSi-9s are almost unbeatable in their price range and really don't need all those tweaks...just a GREAT source, Nice Pre/amp, and good cabling...with the appropriate accessories they will hold their own with speakers costing 3 x 4 times their price. I also disagree about the Vifa tweeter...again with the right synergy they'll do very well.

    I prefer the 9s to the rest of the series because crossovers, bass drivers and amps in the towers could use some attention.

    cnh
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  • newsman
    newsman Posts: 203
    edited January 2010
    I think LSi9 vs 15 is a matter of preference. I for example, preferred LSi15 after comparing their sound to the sound of LSi9 with a Sub. In fact, I deleted Subwoofer from my HT/Music setup once I introduced LSi15 to my system.

    I'm excited about any kind of upgrade news of the LSi series. Polk sound is very addictive and I have been unable to move off the Polk brand for more than a year ever since. Even after higher priced speakers from Sonus Faber and Monitor Audio I moved to LSi speakers when they were introduced. LSi married signature Polk sound with a higher quality tweeter/drivers and better cabinet.

    By the way, as far as LSi revisions, poster above mentioned 3 but I've only aware of two versions of LSi speakers. The original one used black laminate and poorly finished wood panels on the sides - which really made speakers look cheap in person. The second revision, which I got from Tweeter, has a real piano black lacquer finish applied to wood and a smoothly finished wood sides that are most likely finished in veener (I don't think they are actually solid piece of wood). I don't know if it's true or not, but Tweeter sales guy at a time told me that Tweeter made Polk put these cosmetic upgrades as a prerequisite for them to carry LSi speakers along with Sonus, Martin Logan and other high-end speakers that they sold. If this story is even partially true than in my eyes, that alone justified Tweeter existence. Too bad they are RIP.
  • nooshinjohn
    nooshinjohn Posts: 25,475
    edited January 2010
    I would like to see an LSi-SRS
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  • wetcoast
    wetcoast Posts: 64
    edited January 2010
    dorokusai wrote: »
    Nope.

    No timeline hints?
    Speakers: Polk LSi 25, LSiC, LSiFX
    Sub: Maelstrom X 18" DIY
    Amps: Sunfire Sig Seven, Behringer EP-4000
    Processor: Integra DHC-80.1
    Monitor: Sharp LC 60E77UN
    Sources: Motorola DCT-6416, PS3 Slim 250GB, Wii
    Filter: APC S15
  • danger boy
    danger boy Posts: 15,722
    edited January 2010
    Your lack of wordage leads me to believe that something is afoot with the LSi series. Yea or nah & how long a wait.

    you should have said "your lack of knowledge" leads me to believe... :p

    personally, I think Polk needs a line of speakers just under the LSi myself more geared toward music than home theater.
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  • DeusExa
    DeusExa Posts: 491
    edited January 2010
    danger boy wrote: »
    personally, I think Polk needs a line of speakers just under the LSi myself more geared toward music than home theater.

    You mean like...the LSi series? =0 They're pretty affordable already.
  • newsman
    newsman Posts: 203
    edited January 2010
    I think if anything, Polk needs to create a reference product above LSi - pull all stops. It has enough expertise, brand power and ingenuity to do just that.
  • Bernal
    Bernal Posts: 991
    edited January 2010
    "...Today, Polk Audio continues this tradition as an award-winning designer and manufacturer of high performance, reasonably priced audio products. Polk Audio holds more than 65 patents for advances in audio design and technology. And Polk..."

    http://www.polkaudio.com/thespeakerspecialists/
  • cnh
    cnh Posts: 13,284
    edited January 2010
    Good quote Bernal,

    Remember Matt Polk set about a bit like Henry Ford and the Model T, i.e., to make 'affordable' quality speakers that would provide the best sound for the price paid...it really wasn't about 10K plus speaker but speakers that sounded better than their price.

    And I think Polk continues this tradition...I think LSis are near the limit of the price range already.

    I also agree with danger boy above..about a more 'musical' speaker in the Rtis price range. I see a return of the 6.5/1 inch/6.5 with a more laid back tweeter than the RTIs and a heavier better engineered cabinet for bass, and maybe a passive radiator, etc.

    cnh
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  • cfrizz
    cfrizz Posts: 13,415
    edited January 2010
    Zero wrote: »
    Hell, Polk could make $20,000... $40,000... or even $100,000 speakers if they wanted to. It's not a question of engineering prowess or resources. It's a question of buyers. Who is going to buy that stuff? Selling loudspeakers in the hi-fi world isn't easy, especially when you have 'Polk' in your name.

    BINGO!!! Polk is about sellingLOTS of speakers to put in peoples homes, not putting a few very expensive but non-selling speakers in a few egocentric peoples homes that the majority can't afford & wouldn't want anyway.

    Which is why there will NEVER be another big SDA. Get over it!:p:D
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  • VSchneider
    VSchneider Posts: 443
    edited January 2010
    newsman wrote: »
    ...By the way, as far as LSi revisions, poster above mentioned 3 but I've only aware of two versions of LSi speakers. The original one used black laminate and poorly finished wood panels on the sides - which really made speakers look cheap in person. The second revision... has a real piano black lacquer finish applied to wood and a smoothly finished wood sides...

    The "laminated" version have been finished in two different ways. The earlier ones had smooth front and sides, and had raised tops that continued with the angle of the wood panels.

    polk_lsi9_front.jpg

    What looks like another reflection along the side and front at the top is actually that beveled edge.

    My 15's are the same, too, quite ugly when you look closely.

    Almost immediately somebody must have had a good idea to make tops smooth and flat, and move the seams to the front and back (I heard the term "picture-frame back") where they are less visible behind grills.